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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #23: May 26, 2008 10:02:45 am
      70 million pounds...just can't see it happening :(

      Let's just hope that 50 million of that isn't gained from the sale of Fernando Torres to those Chav bas**rds as reported in another thread. You just never know with these Yank bas**rds. :f_steam:
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      Reply #24: May 26, 2008 11:09:26 am

      Great team of players but there are too many, I mean there are 10 midfielders, that is way too many and it would effect morale because they wont be getting a good run in the team.
      there are too many strikers aswell, we dont need Sergio Garcia if we are going to be playing Babel up front becaue we saw this season how much it effected Crouch being on the bench so much. if we need to have another striker due to injury or something then that is when Nemeth come in because otherwise he is never going to get his chance. the defence is perfect, although I would add Insua to it because we all know what Aurelio is like when it comes to injuries. it looks like next season we are going to have a complete defence and wont have to be playing the left backs at centre back because of injuries.

      But none the less it is still a great team you have put there ;)

      Some people have to miss out some weeks but Rafa said in his season review that during that poor spell around Christmas, the players played too many matches in a row. The way i understand that is he will definately rotate heavily. The downfall of our season IMO was no quality in our back up.

      Who ever he signs, they will play their fair share of games.
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      Reply #25: May 26, 2008 03:10:32 pm
      70 million pounds...just can't see it happening :(

      Let's just hope that 50 million of that isn't gained from the sale of Fernando Torres to those Chav bas**rds as reported in another thread. You just never know with these Yank bas**rds. :f_steam:

      If rumours are true then Rafa will be given 20-30 million and will up his kitty with sales of players like Crouch,Carson,Pennant,etc.

      To add to Degan we need a LB, most likely Dossena for around 10 million.

      Then we also need a RW either Quaresma or Silva, I would go for Quaresma because he would be cheaper (around 15 million) and IMO has more talent.

      A striker is needed to partner Torres and Villa would be a perfect match and would most likely be our most expensive signing at 25-30 million.

      These 3 players would cost in the region of 50 million, which is doable.

      Any other additions would have to be covered by more sales, but really we dont need any more midfielders and only other one I can see is a back up keeper and im sure we can get one on the cheap.
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      Reply #26: May 26, 2008 04:45:34 pm
      Maybe Rafa thinks that its time that the reserves youngsters fill up the gaps left by these departing players and with seven subs next season it'll make it easier to bed in these youngsters.

      I dunno with Rafa, I think now is the time to put these young players in the depth charts of the first team squad rather than going to spend 4m, save the funds to help get more quality players. I think players like El Zhar and Plessis are really either upon the cusp of making the team and if not they should move on to other clubs like Hobbs should do now.
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      Reply #27: May 26, 2008 05:30:40 pm
      £70m spree? Where in gods green earth would he get £70m from?

      Oh and we spent £70m last season but somehow finished 4th.

      Torres - £26m
      Mascherano - £17m
      Babel - £11m
      Lucas - £6m
      Benayoun - £5m

      Well that's £65m and we probably spent £5m on youth players or near that mark. If Rafa's to spend £70m this summer then I hope he spends it better.
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      Reply #28: May 26, 2008 05:53:32 pm
      liverpool will be a stronger this season

      A stronger what?
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      Reply #29: May 26, 2008 05:55:46 pm
      £70m spree? Where in gods green earth would he get £70m from?

      Oh and we spent £70m last season but somehow finished 4th.

      Torres - £26m
      Mascherano - £17m
      Babel - £11m
      Lucas - £6m
      Benayoun - £5m

      Well that's £65m and we probably spent £5m on youth players or near that mark. If Rafa's to spend £70m this summer then I hope he spends it better.

      Its surpsising how those fees add up, alot of outlay there cant see another 65-70 M being so readily available.
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      Reply #30: May 26, 2008 06:24:54 pm
      Player swaps seems to be our main aim in this transfer market at the moment. Seems a good plan and it could see us land some great players.

      I think we just need to think carefully about who we sell and who we buy to replace them. First point of interest is Xabi Alonso, crucial that he remains at the club in my opinion. I think alot of our fans will be happy if we get a decent fee for players who we feel need to move on or if it helps us to land another player. We need to ensure we dont lose the depth we have but add quality at the same time.

      Players like Bentley, Silva and Garcia could help us alot but it just depends on how we go about getting them. We can sell players like Carson and get a fair amount of money for them which would help but we need to ensure that we sell them on our terms and not the opposite teams.
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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #31: May 26, 2008 07:25:30 pm
      £70m spree? Where in gods green earth would he get £70m from?

      Oh and we spent £70m last season but somehow finished 4th.

      Torres - £26m
      Mascherano - £17m
      Babel - £11m
      Lucas - £6m
      Benayoun - £5m

      Well that's £65m and we probably spent £5m on youth players or near that mark. If Rafa's to spend £70m this summer then I hope he spends it better.

      Normally the fee for Torres is said to have been around 20 mio. On the other hand you forgot Skrtel for 6.5 mio, so it adds up to around 70 mio.

      It of course not the net spending, which was around 35 mio..

      Anyway, whom of those players were not worth the price in your opinion? Im pretty sure you agree that the money on Torres, Mascherano and Skrtel were well spent right? In my opinion the money on Babel and Benayoun were well spent too. Benayoun because he is a usefull squad player who also scores and creates goals and 5 mio. is not much. Babel because he is young and has shown very much talent and potential and has scored a decent amount of goals in his first season here. The only one Im not convinced about yet is Lucas, but he may well turn out be a really good deal as well. But as I remember you saying Lucas is our most intelligent player, I guess you think 6 mio was a good deal for him right?

      So, how bad were the 70 mio. actually spent when you think about it?
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      Reply #32: May 26, 2008 09:01:55 pm
      £70m spree? Where in gods green earth would he get £70m from?

      Oh and we spent £70m last season but somehow finished 4th.

      Torres - £26m
      Mascherano - £17m
      Babel - £11m
      Lucas - £6m
      Benayoun - £5m

      Well that's £65m and we probably spent £5m on youth players or near that mark. If Rafa's to spend £70m this summer then I hope he spends it better.

      Wow, you 'hope he spends it better'? What more would you like? Shall we spend around 35million net on players that make such huge impacts in the Premiership like Malouda or Ivanovic like Chelsea? I don't think we quite have the money to match Man Utd's millions last year either, with players like Nani, Anderson, Carrick and Hargreaves all being bought for fees around the 18million mark, with very little coming back the other way in terms of funds raised. And you can't compare our spending to Arsenals as Wenger has had years to fine tune his side and he only needed a couple of additions to complete the set. However we spent 35million net and bought in one of the best strikers in the world, one of the best defensive midfielders in the world, two players with very bright futures and one above average squad player.

      I think he spent very well last summer, which isn't to say I agree with all of his transfers, just that I disagree with you on your point that Rafa spent his pounds badly. He improved the squad immensely and has moved us closer to equality with the other three above us, which was especially noticeable in the matches played between them and us. Although I don't think he'll get anywhere near 70million this summer, I don't think he needs to either, as he's been pretty cunning so far securing a decent looking player on a free, another 8million or so on Dossena (hopefully anyway) which leaves more than enough for the rest of the strengthening, which in my eyes only needs to be on the right wing. I think Rafa has put a lot of time and thought into his spending this summer, and I hope he's as good in the transfer market as last year, because if he continues like that we'll see an even further improved team next year.
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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #33: May 26, 2008 09:21:26 pm
      in order to compete we will probably have to spend around £60million more than united and chelsea
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      Reply #34: May 26, 2008 10:51:39 pm
      i find it hard to beleive that we have 70 million to spend this summer.i hope its true and if it is then our first priority is a right sided midfielder.queresma is top class.he had a great game against us in the champions league.we need a striker.i think a cheeky bid for henry?id love to see the young barcelona player boyan in a liverpool shirt.we should forget about signing bentley from blackburn.he costs too much and dont think he would fit in.he is quick and can cross the ball but then pennant is just as good at these things.a player we should be after is michael johnson.he seems a really good prospect.
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      Reply #35: May 26, 2008 10:59:19 pm
      I find it hard to beleive that we have 70 million to spend this summer.I hope its true and if it is then our first priority is a right sided midfielder.queresma is top class.he had a great game against us in the champions league.we need a striker.I think a cheeky bid for henry?id love to see the young barcelona player boyan in a liverpool shirt.we should forget about signing bentley from blackburn.he costs too much and dont think he would fit in.he is quick and can cross the ball but then pennant is just as good at these things.a player we should be after is michael johnson.he seems a really good prospect.

      Would you spend 15million on Johnson when we've got Mascherano, Lucas, Alonso and Gerrard? Wasted money that could be spent elsewhere, and Quaresma would cost just as much if not more than Bentley.

      Still I agree, we only really need a right winger once the Dossena deal is tied up.
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      Reply #36: May 26, 2008 11:32:13 pm
      do you not feel that alonso is not performing as well as he used to and maybe we should cash in on him and strengthen on areas we really need to.we are very strong in midfield.
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      Reply #37: May 26, 2008 11:39:28 pm
      Would you spend 15million on Johnson when we've got Mascherano, Lucas, Alonso and Gerrard? Wasted money that could be spent elsewhere, and Quaresma would cost just as much if not more than Bentley.

      Still I agree, we only really need a right winger once the Dossena deal is tied up.

      What about a striker, depending on Crouch leaving, we will only have 1 striker.

      Voronin and Kuyt are relatively useless up front, Vornin also being useless anywhere.

      Villa for me to partner Kuyt.

      You are right that we do not need any further centre mids, we probably have too many at moment.
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      Reply #38: May 26, 2008 11:44:13 pm
      do you not feel that alonso is not performing as well as he used to and maybe we should cash in on him and strengthen on areas we really need to.we are very strong in midfield.

      Definately not. Alonso is a 26 year old who's still got his best years to give, and I couldn't possibly want to 'cash in' on him because he's had a season riddled with injury. Alonso has played in 27 games this year, whereas Lucas has played in 32. Would you say Lucas has contributed more to the team than Alonso this year, even having played more games?

      No, I wouldn't. Xabi is still a quality player, despite being injured for long periods this season. He still has superb ability to spot a pass, is so composed on the ball, and there's probably no one else in the team I would prefer to have in a tight spot under pressure. How many times do you see him turn away from one or two pressurising opposition, spray a ball out to the other flank and setup an attack?

      Yes, we are very strong in midfield, but we need to be, because with this formation using three central midfielders, we need quality all throughout. In Mascherano we have a superb defensive midfielder, Gerrard a top quality attacking midfielder, and in Xabi an awesome playmaker. Those three are our best options, and if we need to cash in on players let it be those who have truly underperformed or are not contributing enough, such as Riise and Carson, not one of our best First XI players.

      What about a striker, depending on Crouch leaving, we will only have 1 striker.

      Voronin and Kuyt are relatively useless up front, Vornin also being useless anywhere.

      Villa for me to partner Kuyt.

      You are right that we do not need any further centre mids, we probably have too many at moment.

      *edit to answer lfcreds27*

      Good point, but should Crouch leave we should get upwards of 12-15million, which is apparantly the price touted for Sergio Garcia, the 24 year old Spanish striker from Real Zaragoza that everyone is raving about. Also, perhaps Rafa sees it as time for Nemeth to prove his worth in a couple of games should be be called upon next year? Oh and I'd sell Voronin for whatever we can get for him.
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      Reply #39: May 27, 2008 12:39:13 am
      Talkalotofbull.com sounds like a very interesting website doesn't it?

       :tosser:
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      Reply #40: May 27, 2008 12:51:08 am
      Talkalotofbull.com sounds like a very interesting website doesn't it?

       :tosser:

      sorry man.must have touched a nerve.your country didnt qualify either?
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      Reply #41: May 27, 2008 02:29:39 am
      If Rafa does get £70 mill to spend, that will go a long way to steping up to the next level if it's spent wisely. David Villa will do nicely to stat with, and if we sell Voronin, we should be able to get a new pair of boots for Villa as well.
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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #42: May 27, 2008 07:53:00 am
      I'm reading some absolute tosh.

      £70m spree? Where in gods green earth would he get £70m from?

      Oh and we spent £70m last season but somehow finished 4th.

      Torres - £26m
      Mascherano - £17m
      Babel - £11m
      Lucas - £6m
      Benayoun - £5m

      Well that's £65m and we probably spent £5m on youth players or near that mark. If Rafa's to spend £70m this summer then I hope he spends it better.

      70 million outgoing, dont forget to mention the incoming funds from players being sold.

      I find it hard to beleive that we have 70 million to spend this summer.I hope its true and if it is then our first priority is a right sided midfielder.queresma is top class.he had a great game against us in the champions league.we need a striker.I think a cheeky bid for henry?id love to see the young barcelona player boyan in a liverpool shirt.we should forget about signing bentley from blackburn.he costs too much and dont think he would fit in.he is quick and can cross the ball but then pennant is just as good at these things.a player we should be after is michael johnson.he seems a really good prospect.

      Quaresma had a great game against us? Yeah had a good game in our away leg but what happened when he used his big mouth? Absolutely nothing. 'I will silence the Kop', dream on you F***ing tit, he did jack all.

      Bentley too much? 15 million? Much rather him than Quaresma. He is not quick but can get past his man, he can cross better than Jermaine, he is a dead ball specialist, he is a winner and a hard worker. Very much worth 15 million.

      Michael Johnson? We have Lucas and Plessis coming through along with Xabi, Masch and Gerrard. Waste of money.

      Bojan, if you have a spare 20 million.

      do you not feel that alonso is not performing as well as he used to and maybe we should cash in on him and strengthen on areas we really need to.we are very strong in midfield.

      We are strong in midfield because of Xabi. Also, cash in? We will get 15 million and thats hardly enough to replace someone like him. If a bid of 20 million came in which Rafa wants then yeah but it just wont happen.


      All in all people, please have realistic targets. Quaresma and Villa arent coming. Quaresma is very much over rated (he is good but not what some people say) and Villa will set us back 25 million + with Real looking set to sign him and we just compete with them. Plus, Rafa wont change his formation. This is the formation he has wanted to implement his whole time here as he did with Valencia. Torres will be the sole man up front, he will look for wingers who track back and then explode forward (Bentley). If we see a striker come in, they will be potentially great but not world class.
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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #43: May 27, 2008 02:02:38 pm
      selling kuyt is an option.we really dont need him.he aint gona dislodge torres and he cant play on the right wing.why is rafa tryng to buy barry.we all know we have enough midfielders.how about arron lennon.great pace and well used to the premier league.maybe make an offer for darren bent.think we would get him for 10 million.i just have a feeling bentley is not the right option for us.
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      Reply #44: May 27, 2008 02:08:21 pm
      sorry man.must have touched a nerve.your country didnt qualify either?

      Sorry man.  What the F**k are you sorry for?

      No you didn't touch a nerve.  How is the National side relevant here?  And I didn't even quote your post for a start.

      What country are you from then?  :D :D :D
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      Re: Rafa Eyes £70mill Spree
      Reply #45: May 27, 2008 02:10:23 pm
      selling kuyt is an option.we really dont need him.he aint gona dislodge torres and he cant play on the right wing.why is rafa tryng to buy barry.we all know we have enough midfielders.how about arron lennon.great pace and well used to the premier league.maybe make an offer for darren bent.think we would get him for 10 million.I just have a feeling bentley is not the right option for us.

      And Bent and Lennon are the right option? Bent was bought for 17 million or 16 million, why will they sell less than a season in for a loss of atleast 6 million? They are rubbish. Kuyt said himself he doesnt play right wing per say but a right forward.

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