v Tranmere Rovers (Pre-Match)

The Tranmere match is a sell out, not sure how many the ground holds.

The players already back in pre-season training,
Martin
Degen
Carragher
Agger
Dossena
Pennant
Lucas
Guthrie
Leto
Benayoun
Pacheco
Carson
Finnan
Skrtel
Insua
Hammill
Plessis
Spearing
Aurelio
Voronin

Not sure if Gerrard is back yet.

Who do you think will play.

I don't know half of the young players, but I'll say to field an inexperienced side, to give them experience, if that makes sense.

                        Martin

Degan        Insua         Agger             Dosenna

Guthrie       Plessis       Spearing          Leto


          Pennant   Voronin

Ok so it's a bit of a mix match line up but why not? I'd love to see Pennant have a striker role and even he would look good alongside Voronin!

                        Martin

Degan        Insua         Agger             Dosenna

Guthrie       Plessis       Spearing          Leto


          Pennant   Voronin

Ok so it's a bit of a mix match line up but why not? I'd love to see Pennant have a striker role and even he would look good alongside Voronin!

I'll let you into a little secret.....
any f**ker should look good against Tranmere, they're from Wales aren't they??

I'll let you into a little secret.....
any f**ker should look good against Tranmere, they're from Wales aren't they??

No they are Liverpool

I'll let you into a little secret.....
any f**ker should look good against Tranmere, they're from Wales aren't they??

What about Warington Juniors?

                                                                             
                                                              Martin

                      Degen         Skrtel              Agger                    Dossena

                     Pennant        Plessis             Spearing                Leto

                                         Benayoun        Voronin

Link for the game

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=14510&part=sports

                                                  Martin

                      Degen         Skrtel              Agger                    Insua

                     Pennant        Plessis             Lucas                Leto (if he still cant play then Hammill instead)

                                                Benayoun   

                                                 Pacheco     

                                          Martin

Degen                     Hobbs?          Agger                Insua

Pennant                  Plessis            Lucas                 Aurelio

                                        Benayoun

                                        Voronin

If Hobbs aint available for some reason then just put big bad Skrtel in!!

I would prefer pachetto and nemeth (if he is available)up front, insula is a v good player, wouldnt bother with voranin. he should be sold on asap

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/mediawatch/drilldown/MW13185080710-1328.htm

Having taken part in a full week's training at Melwood alongside his new team mates, Dossena is ready to make his Liverpool debut against Tranmere at Prenton Park on Saturday.
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(It's the bottom paragraph)
Looks like Dossena will be in the team then.

Martin
Degen
Agger (if fit) Hobbs (if Agger isn't fit)
Skrtel (if Agger is fit) Antwi (if Agger isn't fit)
Dossena
Plessis and Spearing (holding mids)
Benayoun (wide right)
Bruna (attackin central)
Hammill (wide left)
Pacheco.

Have the three attacking midfielders interchanging.

Need to get some first teamers sharp again, especially defence. Would like to see some young up and coming attackers.

                          Martin

Degen      Carragher     Agger    Dossena

                         Plessis

Hammill      Pacheco    Guthrie    Benayoun 

                        Voronin

                                          Martin

Degen                     Hobbs?          Agger                Insua

Pennant                  Plessis            Lucas                 Aurelio

                                        Benayoun

                                        Voronin

If Hobbs aint available for some reason then just put big bad Skrtel in!!

I'd go with that. Bring Pacheco on late on?

Rafa: "I think that with Dossena, maybe he will not play against Tranmere.
 
"Degen we are working with and we will see."
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Must say im suprised to see Voronin on so many teamsheets. Think i'd rather give Pacheco a shot upfront, we already know what Voronin can do.

What about Warington Juniors?

What about them?

Rafa: "I think that with Dossena, maybe he will not play against Tranmere.
 
"Degen we are working with and we will see."
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Must say im suprised to see Voronin on so many teamsheets. Think I'd rather give Pacheco a shot upfront, we already know what Voronin can do.

He's only a small lad though. Would he be able to do it up there by himself against thugish division 1 defenders?

Rafa: "I think that with Dossena, maybe he will not play against Tranmere.
 
"Degen we are working with and we will see."
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Must say im suprised to see Voronin on so many teamsheets. Think I'd rather give Pacheco a shot upfront, we already know what Voronin can do.

Only striker we have back. Trust me, no other way he's getting in my side

Also, whats the point in playing Lucas? He is leaving us to play for Brazil when we could blood a youngster. Lucas can get match fit with the national side.

He's only a small lad though. Would he be able to do it up there by himself against thugish division 1 defenders?

True he is only small, would be good to give him a shot though even if its just for one half, or with a strike partner.

Out of interest how come people like El Zhar, Bruna etc arent training. I know why some first teamers arent, but how comes these youngsters arent aswell ? anyone know ?

Out of interest how come people like El Zhar, Bruna etc arent training. I know why some first teamers arent, but how comes these youngsters arent aswell ? anyone know ?

No idea mate. Was thinking that meself.

True he is only small, would be good to give him a shot though even if its just for one half, or with a strike partner.

Out of interest how come people like El Zhar, Bruna etc arent training. I know why some first teamers arent, but how comes these youngsters arent aswell ? anyone know ?

Reserves have a pre-season as well. Might be with them.

---------------------Martin--------------------

Darby--------Agger----Skrtel---------Insua

Pennant-----Spearing--Guthrie-----Leto

--------------Lindfield---Pacheco---------

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The thing is the second half will probably new XI so it is tough to say what players will be playing first half or second half but I think a lot of the reserve players will get a run out and if they impress then they will get a shot of going to Switzerland to train with the 1st team and play friendly's over there rather than staying with Gary and the reserve squad.

---------------------Martin--------------------

Darby--------Agger----Skrtel---------Insua

Pennant-----Spearing--Guthrie-----Leto

--------------Lindfield---Pacheco---------

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The thing is the second half will probably new XI so it is tough to say what players will be playing first half or second half but I think a lot of the reserve players will get a run out and if they impress then they will get a shot of going to Switzerland to train with the 1st team and play friendly's over there rather than staying with Gary and the reserve squad.

Don't think Lindfield is playing with the first team this pre season.

Will anyone be watching the game as well as being on here. Wouldn't mind update

---------------------Martin--------------------

Darby--------Agger----Skrtel---------Insua

Pennant-----Spearing--Guthrie-----Leto

--------------Lindfield---Pacheco---------

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I don't rafa will play like that 'cos i think he wants to play by half senior team (5) & half young players (6)

No they are Liverpool

No, they're from Prenton in the Wirral. Other side of the Mersey river.

Martin, Degan, Agger, Carragher, Dossena, Pennant, Plessis, Spearing/Lucas, Leto/Hammill, Pacheco, Voronin.

I reckon that could be the starting line up. But then I could be totally wrong.

No, they're from Prenton in the Wirral. Other side of the Mersey river.

Martin, Degan, Agger, Carragher, Dossena, Pennant, Plessis, Spearing/Lucas, Leto/Hammill, Pacheco, Voronin.

I reckon that could be the starting line up. But then I could be totally wrong.

Well Merseyside/Wirral least it's in England!

I think its important to get everyone used to rafas formation, so my team is:


                                                                 Martin

Degan                               Skrtel                                Agger                            Dossena


                                       Plessis                                 Spearing

Pennant                                             Lucas                                                     Yossi     


                                                       Pacheco

Martin, Degan, Agger, Carragher, Dossena, Pennant, Plessis, Spearing/Lucas, Leto/Hammill, Pacheco, Voronin.

I reckon that could be the starting line up. But then I could be totally wrong.

talk about edging the bets

It's not only us who'll be puttin our new lads out, Tranmere have signed a Gambian international from Walsall, he might be on show.

NEIL 2105 before you have a snipe at wales sort out your geography i see by youre barbed comment youre not very good at it.

NEIL 2105 before you have a snipe at wales sort out your geography I see by youre barbed comment youre not very good at it.

Yea only the welsh can slag off the welsh its a rule, much like the irish rule i enjoy the muxery of

NEIL 2105 before you have a snipe at wales sort out your geography I see by you're barbed comment you re not very good at it.

Well said mate, he probably couldn't spell geography anyway.

Don't think Lindfield is playing with the first team this pre season.

Will anyone be watching the game as well as being on here. Wouldn't mind update

Yeah i think i'll be on here at the same time as watching it.

Out of interest how come people like El Zhar, Bruna etc arent training. I know why some first teamers arent, but how comes these youngsters arent aswell ? anyone know ?

With regard to El Zhar it could be because hes with the national team or was so hs due an extra week or 2 off

Don't think Lindfield is playing with the first team this pre season.

Well for what it's worth his profile picture shows him in the new training kit, could mean nothing in the end so I assume he was part of the training team that came in July 2nd.

Could be way off the mark but I just assume he was part of it

What about them?

Would they look good against Tranmere, keep up lad!

I think Rafa will but out a first half 11 and change the team completely for the 2nd half. Id imagine Degen and Dossena will start Voronin will probably start up top with nemeth with the likes of Pacheco getting a run in the 2nd half

Ist half
Martin
Degen
Sami
Agger
Insua
Pennant
Spearing
Plessis
Flynn
Nemeth
Voronin

2nd half

Gulasci
Darby
San Jose
Skrtel
Dossena
Putterill
Yossi
Stevie G
Aurelio (if fit)
Pacheco
Lindfield

Well for what it's worth his profile picture shows him in the new training kit, could mean nothing in the end so I assume he was part of the training team that came in July 2nd.

Could be way off the mark but I just assume he was part of it

Could be. Might be training with the reserves though?

When is the game kicking off?

When is the game kicking off?

3pm on Saturday Solodee 

Would they look good against Tranmere, keep up lad!

hang on a minute lad, did Martin Skrtel look good against Havant and Waterlooville? So to say something along the lines of "oh it's tranmere, anyone can look good" just remember those first teamers who've performed sh*t against sides in lesser divisions than Tranmere.

hang on a minute lad, did Martin Skrtel look good against Havant and Waterlooville? So to say something along the lines of "oh it's tranmere, anyone can look good" just remember those first teamers who've performed sh*t against sides in lesser divisions than Tranmere.

I don't recall saying that at all mate I was mealy asking a question, yeah I agree Skrtel did look a bit off par in his first few games but he soon turned that around!

yeah he did, that's the point, he (skrtel) looked bad against a side four maybe five divisions below Tranmere. So if for example Voronin, scores a hattrick and sets up another four on Satday, please don't come out with "it's only tranmere". Not just you, but anybody. You can only beat what's put in front of you. That's my biggest arguement when "experts" belittle Crouch's record for England and the sides he scored against.

At the end of the day a win is a win. So if Voronin is man of the match he deserves the credit just as much as if it was Gerrard/Mascherano/Torres/Reina or Bob the f***in builder.

yeah he did, that's the point, he (skrtel) looked bad against a side four maybe five divisions below Tranmere. So if for example Voronin, scores a hattrick and sets up another four on Satday, please don't come out with "it's only tranmere". Not just you, but anybody. You can only beat what's put in front of you. That's my biggest arguement when "experts" belittle Crouch's record for England and the sides he scored against.

At the end of the day a win is a win. So if Voronin is man of the match he deserves the credit just as much as if it was Gerrard/Mascherano/Torres/Reina or Bob the f***in builder.

Too bloody right and Voronin did put in some really good performances against Crewe and Bremen last season.

3-0 win to start off anyone?

3-0 win to start off anyone?

I'll go for 4-1 to us.

Going to the ground at about 1pm in hope of a ticket.  I can't miss this.  Especially if it's only down the road.

I'm going for about 3 - 1 with Tranmere scoring first.  (They are stuffy bas**rds and always do sh*t like that).  But they always start sitting back and we'll hammer 3 right past them.

Job done.

4-2 Liverpool will be the score

4+ -- 0 for us.

Would they look good against Tranmere, keep up lad!

Keep up lad...... you've got a cheek!!
For all our readers, I am fully aware of where Prenton Park is I can see for my place on the "otherside" of the river!
There is a running joke amongst  Scousers.... when folk from the Wirral happen to be in your company and exclaim that "I'm A Scouser" the retort usually is...
F**k off mate your bleedin Welsh
Watch the bad karma's come pouring down on me now!!

Keep up lad...... you've got a cheek!!
For all our readers, I am fully aware of where Prenton Park is I can see for my place on the "otherside" of the river!
There is a running joke amongst  Scousers.... when folk from the Wirral happen to be in your company and exclaim that "I'm A Scouser" the retort usually is...
F**k off mate your bleedin Welsh
Watch the bad karma's come pouring down on me now!!

f***in hell u got a short fuse! I think you have misread my post

I'll let you into a little secret.....
any f**ker should look good against Tranmere

What about Warington Juniors?

What about them?

Would they look good against Tranmere, keep up lad!

f***in hell u got a short fuse! I think you have misread my post

Ive never fell out with anybody! ever!
Nor have I ever misunderstood or misread a post!
What a scurrilous accusation.

Keep up lad...... you've got a cheek!!
For all our readers, I am fully aware of where Prenton Park is I can see for my place on the "otherside" of the river!
There is a running joke amongst  Scousers.... when folk from the Wirral happen to be in your company and exclaim that "I'm A Scouser" the retort usually is...
F**k off mate your bleedin Welsh
Watch the bad karma's come pouring down on me now!!

Are you saying Wirral folk are Welsh? 

does it really matter where people from the Wirral are from? I remember me pal Joe sayin half the Wirral is Merseyside the other half is Cheshire.

Either way, the result will be 4-2 (just like the FA Cup in 2001 same year as they beat Everton 3-0 in the FA Cup  )

does it really matter where people from the Wirral are from? I remember me pal Joe sayin half the Wirral is Merseyside the other half is Cheshire.

Either way, the result will be 4-2 (just like the FA Cup in 2001 same year as they beat Everton 3-0 in the FA Cup  )

Yeah.  You get your areas such as Birkenhead, Upton, linked in with Merseyside and the rest like West Kirby may as well all be Cheshire.  I also find a lot of Scousers have moved over to the other side of the Mersey. 

Anyway.

Still going for 3 - 1!

Ive never fell out with anybody! ever!
Nor have I ever misunderstood or misread a post!
What a scurrilous accusation.

Then why this

Keep up lad...... you've got a cheek!!

Sounds like ur having a go, however if not I apologise.

On topic and back to the footy!

24 hours away from kick off! So pumped for it, just itching to get the season started.

4-1 to the mighty reds. Benayoun and Voronin to score, yes the same Andriy Voronin who ran around on Anfield last season is on my score sheet.

I say we go away with a majestic 2-0 victory with goals from Pennant and Agger.

24 hours away from kick off! So pumped for it, just itching to get the season started.

Amen to that!! It's like Christmas Eve today for me!! Can't wait to see the reds back in action tomorrow - friendly or no friendly.

I bet you Rafa wears jeans.

Amen to that!! It's like Christmas Eve today for me!! Can't wait to see the reds back in action tomorrow - friendly or no friendly.

You big kid Kenny   

I think were all looking forward to this new pre-season...........Haven't we got a pre-season Prediction League.........Come on JD, what you playing at ! 

Even though it's only Tranmere, and no disrespect to them at all, I would like to see us go out and treat this match seriously and come away with a convincing victory, I'm going for 4-1 to the Men in Red   

And I agree Kenny, I think Rafa will wear his Jeans 

4-0 for me.

not sure on scorers yet, if pennant plays i think he will at least get an assist or two.

Haven't we got a pre-season Prediction League.........Come on JD, what you playing at ! 

Let's wait till it gets serious.

Will anyone be watching the game as well as being on here. Wouldn't mind update

I will be and  updates ..... no problem.