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      The Case For Dalglish To Return

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      Bubonic
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #138: Oct 18, 2010 02:57:21 pm

      ...and then there's the risk that Heskey would return!!
      He could actually do the job that Hodgson wants Torres to do, hold up the ball.

      But thats not where we want to be going
      waltonl4
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #139: Oct 18, 2010 03:06:30 pm
      Rubbish. Kenny may well have been traumatised by the funerals but Hillsborough was 2 years before he quit Liverpool. And if he was THAT shocked how come he was back managing in the premiership 6 months later??!?!? Make no mistake, he spent what was a fortune at the time to win the league for Blackburn. When Jack Walker could no longer fund the spending guess what? Blackburn slipped down the table and Kenny took himself out of the pressure once again to become the premiership's first ever "director of football", which was a nothing job


      This was followed by an unimpressive stint as Newcastle manager and a stint at Celtic where he didn't even win the Scottish Premiership!!!

      Look at the facts, his managerial record was on the slide a long time ago and there is no way that a 10 year absence from management is going to have improved him!

      Sorry, but Kenny needs to keep his place in history with his reputation in tact.
      you answered your own question and you need to read fully what people have wrote. Kenny needed a break from football 6 months was a break thats all he needed and the trauma for some from Hilsbrorough is still there 20 years later 2 years to get over it isnt long is it.
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #140: Oct 18, 2010 03:16:22 pm
      you answered your own question and you need to read fully what people have wrote. Kenny needed a break from football 6 months was a break thats all he needed and the trauma for some from Hilsbrorough is still there 20 years later 2 years to get over it isnt long is it.

      You actually agree with me but don't yet realise it. Let me emphasise:

      You've tried to argue your point by saying that the Hillsborough trauma is still there, because I said Kenny quit 2 years after his last funeral and therefore that's probably not the only issue. If that's the case, coming back to LFC is going to bring back the trauma which will no doubt be still with him? Or are you going to disagree with yourself...
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #141: Oct 18, 2010 03:42:12 pm
      You actually agree with me but don't yet realise it. Let me emphasise:

      You've tried to argue your point by saying that the Hillsborough trauma is still there, because I said Kenny quit 2 years after his last funeral and therefore that's probably not the only issue. If that's the case, coming back to LFC is going to bring back the trauma which will no doubt be still with him? Or are you going to disagree with yourself...

      He will always carry it with him, as does everyone involved with the club that day, past & present, but time has enabled him to cope with it, as it does with most bereavements.  Breakdowns don't always appear on the day of the cause, I've seen people who months & sometimes years after an event, start having problems they need to deal with. If Kenny says he can do the job now, I'd not argue with him.
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #142: Oct 18, 2010 03:44:15 pm
      I just wish that the game yesterday was at home so Henry could of heard the deafening chants of

      “DALGLISH DALGLISH DALGLISH”
      waltonl4
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #143: Oct 18, 2010 03:51:22 pm
      I new I should have used prophanaties in my posting.Kenny is capable of doing this job if he says he can do it. He is not a vain man and he is also not stupid enough to take on something he beleives is beyond him. I disagree with EVERYTHING carheex states .
      Kenny is needed because as a club we all need someone who we can get behind at the moment we are just as fragmented as we were a week ago Shankly galvanised us into something special Kenny can do the same thing. Top class sport is often about belief isnt so obvious that these players dont rate Roy as a Manager and Kenny is definitely the right man for the Job.
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #144: Oct 18, 2010 04:20:31 pm
      I new I should have used prophanaties in my posting.Kenny is capable of doing this job if he says he can do it. He is not a vain man and he is also not stupid enough to take on something he beleives is beyond him. I disagree with EVERYTHING carheex states .
      Kenny is needed because as a club we all need someone who we can get behind at the moment we are just as fragmented as we were a week ago Shankly galvanised us into something special Kenny can do the same thing. Top class sport is often about belief isnt so obvious that these players dont rate Roy as a Manager and Kenny is definitely the right man for the Job.

      We'll just have to disagree about whether Kenny is suitable as our next manager then. I for one look back at his last few appointments (newcastle, celtic...) 10 years ago and don't see a man who can be classed as a candidate to take LFC back to the top. Don't get me wrong, it'd be a dream come true but it's fairytale stuff and highly unlikely to happen for a number of reasons.

      A) he walked out on us before when as a club, we were under nowhere near as much pressure as we are now
      B) he's never managed a club fighting relegation
      C) he hasn't managed at all for 10 years
      D) he managed celtic and didn't even win them the league!!
      E) his last job in the premiership saw him guide Newcastle to the bottom half (with his own signings) after finishing runner up the season before (using keegan's signings)

      You can only judge him by his most recent achievements - and even they were a long time ago now. We need to look forward, not back.
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #145: Oct 18, 2010 04:36:38 pm
      I do wish people would stop saying Kenny walked away as he didnt. He asked for sometime after attending dozens of funerals and trying to run a club go tthe better of him a few weeks in the sun probably would have done it but Moores said no and hello Souness.The man was emotionally knackered and remember he did come back and won the league for Blackburn which proved all he needed was a short break.

      Where DO you get your info from??? Is it purely a case of reading the ramblings of a some forum nutters and "choosing" the story which you'd most like to be true?
      Personally, I prefer to find facts, or failing that I go straight to the horses mouth for his version of the events:

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      The following morning at 10.30 I drove into Anfield for a routine management meeting with Peter Robinson and chairman Noel White. Peter was shuffling some papers. I couldn't delay: "I want to resign as manager."

      "Pardon?" Noel said. "I've had enough. I need a break. I feel as if my head is exploding."

      They were shocked.

      "Are you sure you don't want to take a sabbatical?" asked Peter.

      "Of course I don't. I'm out. I'm shot. I've got to go. I have a position of responsibility at this football club and I can't make decisions. I don't deserve to be here. And you don't deserve me to be here."

      Club solicitor Tony Ensor said: "I'm talking to you as a friend. Take some time off then come back."

      But I said: "I can't walk out on a club not knowing whether I would be fit enough to return. It's the middle of the season, we're top of the league, still in the cup with a replay with Everton, how could I have a sabbatical? It wouldn't look right for players.

      "I need a clean break. It's over."

      At 4pm, Liverpool held an emergency board meeting at which they reluctantly accepted my resignation with the stipulation I attend a Press conference in the morning



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      The above is taken from Kenny's autobiography. And I bet some people STILL think they know better!
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      Re: The Case For Dalglish To Return
      Reply #146: Oct 18, 2010 05:01:39 pm
      wouldnt like to see kenny to take the managers role only for the fact that if  things didnt go for him, the amount of sh*t he'd get from forums and the gutters.
      Id like to see him on the board, or the very least, dof

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