Gerrard & Carra good for Liverpool?

Do you know this for sure (100%) as the rumours I have heard albeit third hand is that he and gerard fell out somewhile back.

Give them some credit, FFS! We're talking about grown men, international footballers and people are saying Torres wants to change his job, house and city because he's had a falling out with a team mate? Pathetic. This kind of crap is so wide of the mark that if people on here believe it, our reputation of having "the most intelligent fans" (cringe) is well and truly in tatters.

This kind of crap is so wide of the mark that if people on here believe it, our reputation of having "the most intelligent fans" (cringe) is well and truly in tatters.

Well if it is true as reported in the press that Nando is citing "Verbal Intimidation" as his reason for his request, that blows your whole post out the water as it clearly shows that something is amiss.

I see no proof of Carragerrard involvment in this.

May very well be that evil little Pacheco who verbally abuses senior player to try to replace them. Didn't he succeeded to make Riera punch him ?

May be Torres not understanding Kenny's scottish accent and thinking he insulted him.

May be anyone at the club who lacked diplomacy when they refused to discuss with Chelsea and Torres asked for a move a first time.

Or he may have just said "verbal intimidation" remembering Mike Kelly / Hodgson pre-match speeches, people the new owners have took too long to fire for his taste.

Oh f**k off, Im sorry but Im getting bored of this sh*t.

Maybe Im imagining it, but I swear to God theres some people on here intent on creating conspiracy theories against Carra/Gerrard. Gerrard/Carra have to much influence/They were the reason Benitez left/They're forcing Torres out, next Il be hearing their in charge of the clubs finances.

Someone please change the bloody record

Here here.

Give them some credit, FFS! We're talking about grown men, international footballers and people are saying Torres wants to change his job, house and city because he's had a falling out with a team mate? Pathetic. This kind of crap is so wide of the mark that if people on here believe it, our reputation of having "the most intelligent fans" (cringe) is well and truly in tatters.

Ok.  So if your not happy with the people you work with and someone comes in offering to give you more money to join them.  Why would you stay?

Ok.  So if your not happy with the people you work with and someone comes in offering to give you more money to join them.  Why would you stay?

Where is your eveidence taht they have offered more money?

both good for us imo where and what would we have won without them in the last 8 years?

Where is your eveidence taht they have offered more money?

It as a hyperthetical question.

I agree bigbob, I owe some of my best days/nights to them.  However if they are dictating things behind the scene then they are overstepping the mark IMO.

I don't believe they would cause unrest on purpose and only want the best for our club. 

I also agree that the heart of LFC should be scouse.  But they must know their place.

It as a hyperthetical question.

I agree bigbob, I owe some of my best days/nights to them.  However if they are dictating things behind the scene then they are overstepping the mark IMO.

I don't believe they would cause unrest on purpose and only want the best for our club. 

I also agree that the heart of LFC should be scouse.  But they must know their place.

I know what your saying mate but i think they have played and earned enough respect over the years to be the senior and agressers in the changing rooms and tbf Stevie is the captain

Personally, I believe they both are overrated at this club. They're supposedly the lifeblood of the squad, scousers and what not. All they seem to do in my eyes is such the club dry in arrogance. This club I believe would be in a far better position if everyone is seen as equal. What's the truth in them having a closer relation to Liverpool Football Club? How are they making things any better by acting as if they own the place.

I know nothing about what they do behind the scenes but from what I see on the telly is good enough to me that they're injurious to the club. They need to decrease and the team needs to increase. Both don't make the club and if I am to be honest, both are boxers. Gerrard on the DJ and Carra on Arbeloa they feel high on mighty. Well I have news for them, they not worthy to clean Pepe Reina's boots.

Gerrard and Carra are better off in our squad than anyone elses.

Wild guesses and gossip is sad to see.

Cant believe the audacity to question Gerrard. The club would be worse off without him.

Move them on,no time to be sentimental,thats part of our downfall.

Some baffling comments on here, absoloutely baffling - As is the topic title.

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