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      Maradona on Englands 1966 cheats
      Nov 19, 2008 10:05:31 am
      Video clip of Maradona interview before the Scotland game. He's going to be a great international manager - if only for the soundbites.

      http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7736299.stm
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      Reply #1: Nov 19, 2008 08:27:18 pm
      I greatly admired Maradonna as a player before 1986 ! but for him to come out and say what he has said about the 1966 world cup win (only after Terry Butcher said he won't forgive him for the hand of god moment !) STINKS ! :f_steam:
      I mean his personal actions cost us the game in 86, the 66 World cup final was decided on an officials decision, as was our Champions League semi final win over chelsea and our draw against Athletico Madrid, not our players cheating like he did !  :f_steam:
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      Reply #2: Nov 19, 2008 09:59:43 pm
      i have to admit,  was pissing myself laughing when i seen it!
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      Reply #3: Nov 20, 2008 11:48:37 am
      As we all know I'm not exactly the biggest England fan in the world anyways, so this made me piss myself laughing!

      What didn't make me laugh however was The Mirror's journalism on it....

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      Diego Maradona: England should never have won the World Cup 

      By Neil McLeman 19/11/2008

      Diego Maradona last night infuriated England fans again by claiming: "You should never have won the World Cup."

      The drug-taking cheat scandalised the nation with his infamous Hand of God goal which knocked out Bobby Robson’s team from Mexico 86.

      But the little conman rolled his eyes and grinned when asked about the incident before his debut as Argentina coach in Scotland tonight.

      And he claimed England had benefited from an equally dodgy decision when Geoff Hurst’s disputed goal in extra time helped us capture the 1966 World Cup. "England won  with a goal which never crossed the line," said Maradona. "So I don’t think anyone should judge me when that went on."

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/11/19/diego-maradona-england-should-never-have-won-the-world-cup-115875-20906237/

      Fair dues. Maradona was, allegedly, known to dabble in the Devil's Dandruff but for a newspaper to print that, on the back page? He's only having a grin!

      Naomi Campbell kicked up a fuss over something similar, I suggest he does the same! >:D
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      Reply #4: Nov 20, 2008 02:39:24 pm
      That shouldn't be put in the papers that is rather harsh. I think however that we shouldn't be dwelling on something that didnt go England's way or else we would be whinging for the rest of our lives. No point though is there so everybody should move on.
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      Reply #5: Nov 20, 2008 05:37:21 pm
      CRK, which part don't you agree with?  The drug-taking bit or the cheat bit?

      1. You admitted he had taken drugs and he was convicted of it and subsequently banned.

      2. He openly admits to using his hand to punch the ball into the net.  Not within the rules - so cheating.

      If it is because The Mirrror called him that, I think that's a bit naive.  He's hardly a figure of national pride is he?  Is there any reason why a British paper should fawn all over him?

      I'll admit he WAS a great player but that doesn't excuse the rest of his life, IMO.  For Agentinians, maybe.  For me, as a Brit, no.
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      Reply #6: Nov 20, 2008 08:49:00 pm
      CRK, which part don't you agree with?  The drug-taking bit or the cheat bit?

      1. You admitted he had taken drugs and he was convicted of it and subsequently banned.

      2. He openly admits to using his hand to punch the ball into the net.  Not within the rules - so cheating.

      If it is because The Mirrror called him that, I think that's a bit naive.  He's hardly a figure of national pride is he?  Is there any reason why a British paper should fawn all over him?

      I'll admit he WAS a great player but that doesn't excuse the rest of his life, IMO.  For Agentinians, maybe.  For me, as a Brit, no.

      Just the lack of a journalistic nous to come up with a better tag to attach to the subject of the article.

      I feel the same way about articles describing Ricky Gervais as a 'chubby comedian'. Yes he may be fat, but can't they come up with a few better adjectives to prefix with the subjects name?
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      Reply #7: Nov 21, 2008 04:38:10 am
      Just the lack of a journalistic nous to come up with a better tag to attach to the subject of the article.

      I feel the same way about articles describing Ricky Gervais as a 'chubby comedian'. Yes he may be fat, but can't they come up with a few better adjectives to prefix with the subjects name?

      Fair enough but it's a tabloid.

      Hardly noted for their use of the English language, are they?  Sensationalism - that's their thing.  That's what sells papers 'cos that's what their readers want.
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      Reply #8: Nov 21, 2008 11:35:03 pm
      Fair enough but it's a tabloid.

      Hardly noted for their use of the English language, are they?  Sensationalism - that's their thing.  That's what sells papers 'cos that's what their readers want.

      Very true! You'd think they'd try and up their class a little bit though.

      Grow up a little and that! ::)
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      Reply #9: Nov 22, 2008 06:33:51 am
      Very true! You'd think they'd try and up their class a little bit though.

      Grow up a little and that! ::)

      ...in an ideal world.  But then, in an ideal world the S*n would have apologised profusely, donated all it's money to the HJC and victims families and then gone out of business.

      But that's a bit too much to ask (and it's well off topic).
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      Reply #10: Nov 22, 2008 12:51:06 pm
      CRK, which part don't you agree with?  The drug-taking bit or the cheat bit?

      1. You admitted he had taken drugs and he was convicted of it and subsequently banned.

      2. He openly admits to using his hand to punch the ball into the net.  Not within the rules - so cheating.

      If it is because The Mirrror called him that, I think that's a bit naive.  He's hardly a figure of national pride is he?  Is there any reason why a British paper should fawn all over him?

      I'll admit he WAS a great player but that doesn't excuse the rest of his life, IMO.  For Agentinians, maybe.  For me, as a Brit, no.

      He was a cheat, he did enjoy the drugs but to say he isnt either a) a god in Argentina or; b) a patriot to his homeland is the biggest joke.

      Wherever Argentina is playing, he is there and not only football. I remember watching the tennis when Australia took on Argentina in the Davis Cup and who was starting the insane chants and deafening calls? Diego Maradona in a sport he has never played at the top of his lungs, clutching his shirt and cheering his men on.

      And if you meant he isnt respected, think again.
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      Reply #11: Nov 22, 2008 01:32:34 pm
      He was a cheat, he did enjoy the drugs but to say he isnt either a) a god in Argentina or; b) a patriot to his homeland is the biggest joke.

      Wherever Argentina is playing, he is there and not only football. I remember watching the tennis when Australia took on Argentina in the Davis Cup and who was starting the insane chants and deafening calls? Diego Maradona in a sport he has never played at the top of his lungs, clutching his shirt and cheering his men on.

      And if you meant he isnt respected, think again.

      I meant OUR nation.  It was a discussion about a BRITISH newspaper.   ::)
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      Reply #12: Nov 22, 2008 01:37:51 pm
      I meant OUR nation.  It was a discussion about a BRITISH newspaper.   ::)

      Reading the bit i highlighted, it just seemed as though you meant it from an Argentinians point of view.
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      Reply #13: Nov 22, 2008 01:41:15 pm
      OK mate.

      As I said, football aside he is a tw*t IMO.  The Argentinians can excuse the other side of his personailty (he did win the world cup virtually single handedly - pardon the pun) but I, as an Englishman, can't.

      That's all I wanted to say.
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      Reply #14: Nov 25, 2008 10:23:34 pm
      Maradona was a brilliant player and that Geoff Hurst goal never crossed the line but that was the linesman's fault but Maradona CHEATED by handling the ball into the net, I like Maradona. I really do because of his footballing genius, when he recently visited United and Liverpool's training grounds he was held in awe by world class players, that says a lot...
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      Reply #15: Nov 25, 2008 11:39:37 pm
      Indeed.  When you're judged so highly by your peers then it says a lot about you
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      Reply #16: Nov 25, 2008 11:40:39 pm
      Maradona was indeed a pure gem. And to think people got wound up about his comments on 66 after his infamous hand of god. Couldn't people see he was taking the piss? It made me laugh!

      Think the linesman and ref were also at fault for allowing him to cheat in 86 though. You could tell it was handball (well I could at the time) and the officials bottled it because it was, at the time, the worlds greatest player.

      The only thing that upsets me to to this day about Maradona and his handball, was that he didn't need to cheat to be a winner. He was something special. And it was a pleasure to see him play football.

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      Reply #17: Dec 17, 2008 11:09:20 pm
      Grrrrrrrrr, Maradona.

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