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      Liverpool's failed transfers over the years

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      Brian78
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #23: Aug 26, 2009 08:58:04 pm
      For what was spent and what we got in return Robbie Keane was a failed transfer of huge proportions!!

      Kewell was a nothing player overall. Chris Kirkland was a failed transfer. Jan Kromkamp also
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #24: Aug 26, 2009 08:59:02 pm
      How can you forget Antonio Nunez ;D
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #25: Aug 26, 2009 09:01:16 pm
      I remember reading in Robbie Fowlers book that the lads thought Jean Michel Ferri was a plant by Houllier to report back what the players were up to because he was so sh*te  ;D
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #26: Aug 26, 2009 09:50:46 pm
      If Liverpool are paying £1 million pound every 9 days back to the bank in interest how can Dossena be called a waste of money 7 million to see the look on all those mancs faces when he chipped Van der Sar


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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #27: Aug 26, 2009 09:52:17 pm
      I remember reading in Robbie Fowlers book that the lads thought Jean Michel Ferri was a plant by Houllier to report back what the players were up to because he was so sh*te  ;D

      Read somewhere else thats quite true, that summer saw Paul Ince fu**ed off for being the 'supposed' mole for the NOTW.
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #28: Aug 26, 2009 11:55:35 pm

      Not sure if you can include Nunez as such because was part of the Owen deal and as i typed this it has just clicked :laugh:

      Cisse wasn't Rafa's


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      No 'O' on the end ;)
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      Reply #29: Aug 27, 2009 12:00:52 am
      Biggest waste of money in my opinion was diouf for a ridiculous amount of money when we could have signed Anelka for buttons. In the current squad Voronin has to be up there with the worst (even thought he didnt cost a penny) pathetic use of the ball time & time again!!!
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #30: Aug 27, 2009 12:56:49 am
      Rafa has basically got all the money back which is at least a possitive
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #31: Aug 27, 2009 01:01:22 am
      Firstly there's no Traore, Meijer, Xavier, Heskey, Carson, Leto, Intandje which kinda just takes away any credibility. That along with the what's the point of the thread? Makes me just pass this thread in the future.
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      Reply #32: Aug 27, 2009 01:03:12 am
      Heskey?

      Although Traore was pretty pants we still won the CL with him in the team.
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      Reply #33: Aug 27, 2009 01:55:52 am
      what happened to the mighty jimmy carter  :lmao:
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #34: Aug 27, 2009 09:54:26 am
       I do not see what the point is in pointing out players who have failed to live up to expectations.The important thing was we got rid of them.I can go back as far as George Kay and show you players who did not make the grade after being bought from another club.Even the great Bill Shankly  made some mistakes in the transfer market as did Kenny Dalglish,but they were still great managers at this club.Two of Shanks signings that spring to mind without doing any research were Phil Chisnall bought from Man U and David Wilson a right winger bought from Preston There is not a manager going who has never bought a dud at some time or other..
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      Reply #35: Aug 27, 2009 11:06:48 am
      I think we have made big mistakes  in the transfer Market for the last 20 years , at the end of king kennys reign (carter speedie) Souness carried on the trend we bought Paul Stewart  while man u got Roy keane for about the same price , we were offered cantona but were not intrested  , Roy Evens did a great job but made some mistakes in the Market  Phil Babb 4 m  Ruddock 5m man u bought pallister for the same outlay , Houllier gave us some great times but took wasting our money to a new level  20 m douff  cheyrou   Also had the chance to get ronaldo for about 4m they didn't think he was worth it  so the trend was manU getting it right while we were getting it wrong to many times  
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      Reply #36: Aug 27, 2009 11:07:44 am
      Can anybody explain to me the point of this thread?

      Makes no sense to me.
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #37: Aug 27, 2009 12:06:37 pm
      Can anybody explain to me the point of this thread?

      Makes no sense to me.

      Just to have a look at all the money we have wasted over the years...to much
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      Reply #38: Aug 27, 2009 10:45:15 pm
      every club has wasted money over the years united- veron bellion kleberson forlan chelsea- veron, mutu loads more that i cant think of thetop of my head
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      Reply #39: Aug 27, 2009 10:51:37 pm
      it's obvious that all managers make mistakes,but when you are in such a big club every mistake seems much bigger than it really is...i read about many players and i think that there are more others who failed to prove their abilities....i just hope that in the future there won't be any more 'wrong' transfers...just better scouting please!!!
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      Reply #40: Aug 27, 2009 10:52:16 pm
      Correct me if im wrong but wasnt Cisse signed by Houilier just before he got the boot?

      Dont see how robbie keane can be put on this and not even have babel, voronin or lucas there!, we should of given him more time like right now who would you rather have as back up robbie keane or voronin?
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #41: Aug 28, 2009 12:16:34 am
      That's just a list of figures though, it can be interpreted any way you like.

      It's also flawed, because you can't say it's the amount we've "thrown away" as it doesn't take into account monies we've gained from selling players on who didn't work out.


      I know what you are saying makes sense to some degree but i would suggest that Rafa can't be totally let off the hook by this "net spend" theory. the fact is, too many of his buys have not worked out. that is poor judgement and/or poor man-management on his part regardless of whether he then later gets the money back.

      even if we end up with a healthy pofit on a player we still have had the disturbance to the squad trying to fit the new guys in and i think this must have cost us many points over the years.

      i mean, if Keane had been "right" for us, or had been managed better, or a different player had been bought instead, take your pick, then surely we would have #19 sitting on the shelf from last year. we only needed a few more points.

      YES, YES, i'm sorry to bash Rafa....I know he's a genius and a demi-God to most of you. He has done well overall for us but I just think his failings such as they are, are RIGHT NOW costing us too many points and we will just never quite be good enough under him unless he sharpens up.
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      Reply #42: Aug 28, 2009 02:03:17 am
      I think we have made big mistakes  in the transfer Market for the last 20 years , at the end of king kennys reign (carter speedie) Souness carried on the trend we bought Paul Stewart  while man u got Roy keane for about the same price , we were offered cantona but were not intrested  , Roy Evens did a great job but made some mistakes in the Market  Phil Babb 4 m  Ruddock 5m man u bought pallister for the same outlay , Houllier gave us some great times but took wasting our money to a new level  20 m douff  cheyrou   Also had the chance to get ronaldo for about 4m they didn't think he was worth it  so the trend was manU getting it right while we were getting it wrong to many times   

      I thought Speedie did well when he came in. Carter didn't though.

      The only other bad signing Dalglish made was Hysen imo.
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      Reply #43: Aug 28, 2009 03:50:42 am
      every club has wasted money over the years united- veron bellion kleberson forlan chelsea- veron, mutu loads more that I cant think of thetop of my head
      plus Chelsea 30mil for Shevchencho. any1 can make mistakes, its how quickly you react to these mistakes shows your true character, Benitez has always been quick to correct his mistakes besides one Brazilian central midfielder whos name I am afraid of mentioning for fear of being raped for a valid point.
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #44: Aug 28, 2009 11:14:21 am
      There are various interpretations of what is "wasted money". To me it's simple.

      Harry Kewell is a waste of money. He was bought for 5 million, spent much of his time on the bench, depreciated on our books, and was given away for free. On a cost to return (performance + sale proceeds) basis, that's a waste of money.

      For Robbie Keane, it was a cut-loss case. At least we got back some money, even if we did not get anything out of his performance. On a cost to return (performance + sale proceeds) basis, we probably "wasted less money".

      I view the list economically and on a case by case basis. Perhaps it's not the absolute dollar but the returns on the value we have placed on the player.
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      Re: Liverpool's failed transfers over the years
      Reply #45: Aug 28, 2009 11:00:36 pm
      Pelligrino wasn't included

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