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      Venom-C
      • Forum Emlyn Hughes
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      Definition of a finisher...
      Feb 29, 2008 11:36:52 am
      There is alot of debate that goes on in a few threads about whether Torres is a proven finisher or who he should be pared up with, so Its pretty plain to see people have different views about what a finisher actually is. I thought it would be interesting to see what everyone's personal opinion, of what a finisher is, is...

      I want to know what everyone's opinion is about this BEFORE they read other people's responses if you dont mind. I just want it to be your OWN honest opinion.

      my definition...

      There are many words with which you can assosiate this type of forward, such as goalpoacher, finisher, natural goal scorer, and IMO lots of people get there ideas mixed up because of this.
      A goal poacher pounces on defensive mistakes and puts as much pressure on the opposition by getting into good positions. Is Torres a poacher?.....YES! As demonstrated in the Middlesborough game. But he's not like Solskaer or van nistlrooy who scores tap ins.
      An outright finisher has quick reactions and an amazing first touch and can get a shot on goal regardless of body position, defender pressure or quality of supply (good in the air too), generally scores most of their goals from inside the box. It torres one of these?.....no

      IMO Torres is a unique striker that cannot be put into one of these stereotypes. He's...unique
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #1: Feb 29, 2008 11:52:33 am
      A Finisher imo is a player that you class as a real natural goalscorer. The kind of players commentators will say you would put your mortgage on him scoring when hes in on goal ;D. And the kind of player that when he gets in on goal it is alot more likely he will put the ball in the net than miss and it only takes him a single chance to put the ball in, someone who rarely misses chances that are gifted to him.

      I agree fernando is unique and cant be categorised in the way other strikers are, he is a combination of what other strikers are and this is what makes him so good.

      Finishers to me are Owen and Fowler, both were players who when you saw a chance come to them you were already celebrating a goal for them inside before they had even shot. Another players who strikes me as that type is eduardo who before his injury whenever i saw him in on goal he seemed to have a knack for passing the ball into the net rather than hammering it, kind of in the way Xabi does but as a striker obviously. He picks his spot and stick to it, then just slides the ball there shifting his body in a way that will leave the keeper not knowing which way he's going to shoot.

      Its kind of like he's taking a penalty when he shoots and letting the goalkeeper commit himself before he strikes the ball. Fernando however i prefer his style, Although it may take him more chances to get the ball in the back of the net he does whatever it takes to get the ball there before 90 minutes are up and finishers tend not to carve out their own chances THAT much. Fernando does and is constantly thinking of ways he can do it, hes always on defenders cases and defends from the front.

      The thing that is amazing is, this is Fernando's first season here and he is on 21 already, if you look at his main competitor (striker wise) for the golden boot it is adebayor. Now look back to last season, no-one expected him to be where he is now and that was due to the amount of goalscoring chances he squandered. It took him alot of chances to put the ball in the net and sometimes it was  easier for him to score than miss and he missed, players like that can always improve and are always looking to, now when you see him play you think of it as he will score this whereas it used to be he will miss.

      If you look at the change in adebayors finishing and then look at how well fernando takes his chances now although he may miss 2 or 3 each game now, just think of the prospect of when he has properly settled, has a strike partner who knows his game and he knows theirs and he isnt missing those 2 or 3 chances, pretty daunting thought for the opposition isnt it?
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #2: Feb 29, 2008 04:07:08 pm
      Imo a true finisher is a guy who never gives up on getting that ball over the line...anyhow...from anywhere. Mark him for 90 minutes-doze off for a second and you pay the price. Some create their chances, some get into the positions-special ones do both.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #3: Feb 29, 2008 04:13:13 pm
      Two words: Robbie Fowler
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #4: Feb 29, 2008 04:16:16 pm

      How about one word to describe him..... GOD
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #5: Feb 29, 2008 04:18:35 pm
      To me a finisher is plain and simple: someone who scores more than he misses.

      Torres isn't a natural finisher, but he has a lot more to his game in terms of creating his own chances & dragging defenders out of position. Put a proven finisher alongside him & we will have one hell of a strikeforce.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #6: Feb 29, 2008 05:18:34 pm
      To me a finisher is plain and simple: someone who scores more than he misses.

      Torres isn't a natural finisher, but he has a lot more to his game in terms of creating his own chances & dragging defenders out of position. Put a proven finisher alongside him & we will have one hell of a strikeforce.

      Top shout IMO Eddie. My exact sentiments on the subject.

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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #7: Feb 29, 2008 06:02:45 pm
      As others have mentioned , if you want to see a natural goalscorer ....there is nobody better then Robbie Fowler and he is the ultimate example.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #8: Feb 29, 2008 06:14:02 pm
      As others have mentioned , if you want to see a natural goalscorer ....there is nobody better then Robbie Fowler and he is the ultimate example.

      Nah mate Ian Rush - top, top finisher... truly world-class.

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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #9: Feb 29, 2008 06:26:14 pm
      Nah mate Ian Rush - top, top finisher... truly world-class.



      Totally agree , Ian Rush, left centre backs standing with blinding pace , was also a fox in the box too , his record speaks for itself ...Alan shearer comes to mind too ..
      « Last Edit: Feb 29, 2008 06:33:57 pm by SPARKYMARKY »
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #10: Feb 29, 2008 06:34:39 pm
      A finisher is one chance, one goals

      It's that simple! Ruud Van Nisterooy come to mind?
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #11: Mar 01, 2008 01:35:00 am
      A finisher is one chance, one goals

      It's that simple! Ruud Van Nisterooy come to mind?

      Agree...Inzaghi is also one of the best around.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #12: Mar 01, 2008 06:55:19 am
      A finisher is one chance, one goals

      It's that simple! Ruud Van Nisterooy come to mind?


      That's right a finisher is a player who takes his chances, ruud is the best at this, and that's why he's topped goal scoring charts in Holland, England and Spain. no mean feat! a lot of people believe torres isn't a natural finisher, but i dont recall him missing to many opportunities in recent weeks, i think he is an excellent finisher, he nearly always scores when he gets one on one with a keeper, look at goals against boro, bolton, sunderland, chelsea and reading, he usually just passes the ball into  the back of the net when he gets a chance. IMO,a finisher is not a type of player, finishing is an aspect of a players game, like pace and first touch. so for example i would say torres and gerrard are excellent finishers. but i wouldn't really clasify a player as a 'finisher'.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #13: Mar 01, 2008 09:35:24 am
       A finisher is someone who can put the ball in the net,it should not matter how he does this . As Torres has demonstrated  he can strike he can tap the ball in and he can dribble past 3 or 4 defenders to put the ball in the net.He is up there with the best.
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      Re: Definition of a finisher...
      Reply #14: Mar 02, 2008 01:55:29 am
      IMO i wouldn't class torres as a finisher, he takes a lot of his chances but he also misses a few when hes in and around the 6yard box, i'd class him as a very technical forward. whenever i think of finishers players like inzaghi and v. nistelrooy always come to mind, the players that never seem to miss a chance that comes their way when they're close to goal. i think its unfair to call players like them poachers cos there is many forwards out there that poach but never come close to scoring as many as they do. liverpool are screaming out for a natural finisher who'll put away the easy chances and tap-ins

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