The huge Anfield problem

Nothing more demoralising and destructive for an atmosphere than fans doing their best to get the team into it but the lads on the pitch not responding. Along with paying so much to get in, it's a real kick in the teeth what has happened these last few days. Sets us up really badly for Saturday and next Tuesday.

Ok.

I've offered this to a couple of people via PM but they couldn't make it for different reasons so I thought I would do it here:

I have a spare ticket for the semifinal on Wednesday. It's a seat next to me in the Kop. I'd love to pass it on to someone from the forum who might not habitually be able to attend games at Anfield.

So let me know if anyone is interested. If you have just joined the forum or got only 5 posts, please don't bother - nothing personal, I'd just like to help someone who is regular here, if possible.

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Same thing, but for the game on Saturday.

I don't normally have spares, but my friends from uni are all traveling at the moment so I got two spares for Wolverhampton.

They're upper main stand seats and cost only £9 each. I'd be happy to pass them to someone from the forum.

They are "restricted view" seats but from my experience it's not too bad - usually only a small part of one of the corners that is blocked by the Anfield Road end's roof. I've been in this type of seats twice (Man City and Swansea) and they were alright.

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Have to say. The worst I've ever witnessed at Anfield this season. The lack of spirit, passion and laughs. I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but it's true.

Oh when the reds go marching in. Fields of Anfield Rd. And everything else is sang by about fifth of the people in the Kop.

Selfie sticks and F***ing Ipads and all the mobile phones.

The owners, the manager, the players and us fans. We all have a part to play.

Then all the dickheads booing at half time on Saturday. If you're gonna boo, F***ing boo at your TV!!

https://twitter.com/terraceimages/status/825824423609516034

This 100%

https://twitter.com/terraceimages/status/825824423609516034

This 100%

He's absolutely spot on and if something isn't done then in 10-15 years or so I think a lot of people won't give a sh*t about football anymore because what's the point. Every club is becoming an imitation of the next, the reasons you initially were drawn to the club aren't there anymore.

Honestly, I can't be arsed with football in general anymore. I watch Liverpool games but I don't follow any other results or watch any other games and even with Liverpool I can sense that I don't feel the same intensity that I used to and it's just because it's gone too far. The players, owners, nobody gives a sh*t apart from about the money and it takes its toll.

I felt the Plymouth atmosphere was arguably worse than the wolves game - however to me it's not about where exactly you are from but essentially once you step through those gates and into the stadium you have a duty almost, to make noise, to cheer your team. If you have a kid, and booed or took the p*ss at every mistake they made, they wouldn't bother again and whilst that is probably an awful analogy, how would boos push our team to try harder in the 2nd half? Or how would tutting at someone next to you cheering make things better?

So my point being - the argument is not about where people are from, but what they contribute to the game itself - whether a player or in fact a 'fan'...

https://twitter.com/terraceimages/status/825824423609516034

This 100%

 

The lad is right,turning into franchise f.c.I dunno if there's anyway to stop it now.

Any tw*t producing a selfie stick should have his selfie stick stuck where the sun doesn't shine.

He's absolutely spot on and if something isn't done then in 10-15 years or so I think a lot of people won't give a sh*t about football anymore because what's the point. Every club is becoming an imitation of the next, the reasons you initially were drawn to the club aren't there anymore.

Honestly, I can't be arsed with football in general anymore. I watch Liverpool games but I don't follow any other results or watch any other games and even with Liverpool I can sense that I don't feel the same intensity that I used to and it's just because it's gone too far. The players, owners, nobody gives a sh*t apart from about the money and it takes its toll.

Ditto.

I refuse point blank to go to any Saturday home games these days. The place is a tourist trap and it genuinely pisses me off to the point where it disappoints me every time. Cup games and away games I can do, but home games on a Saturday, nah. Same with a lot of my mates and their families who have been going to games for years. No one can be arsed anymore. It's nearly £60 ffs. No chance.

At least we've got memories of some truly special games over the years. Dortmund will be the last one. It's too late now, and anyone who thinks they have any chance of stopping the corporate takeover of our club are ten years too late. Not even making the Kop safe standing (which sadly won't happen any time soon) won't do enough. The ground is full of booing, moaning, spoilt armchair fans who haven't got a clue what support is and they just want to win so they can post a gloating status on facebook.

Feel like I make this post every year in this thread, but each time it gets more defeated. All that hard work we did in 2009 to try and save our club. I remember standing outside the ground handing out SOS leaflets with a few other lads trying to educate people who didn't even know who Hicks and Gillete were what the F**k was going on.

Why did we bother?

Any tw*t producing a selfie stick should have his selfie stick stuck where the sun doesn't shine.

Preferably sideways.

Hoping for a great atmosphere tonight. If people can't get behind their team in a match like that, then I wonder why they're going to the stadium at all. I'll be at the Kop too, for the very first time in a league match this season. Excited!

Ditto.

I refuse point blank to go to any Saturday home games these days. The place is a tourist trap and it genuinely pisses me off to the point where it disappoints me every time. Cup games and away games I can do, but home games on a Saturday, nah. Same with a lot of my mates and their families who have been going to games for years. No one can be arsed anymore. It's nearly £60 ffs. No chance.

At least we've got memories of some truly special games over the years. Dortmund will be the last one. It's too late now, and anyone who thinks they have any chance of stopping the corporate takeover of our club are ten years too late. Not even making the Kop safe standing (which sadly won't happen any time soon) won't do enough. The ground is full of booing, moaning, spoilt armchair fans who haven't got a clue what support is and they just want to win so they can post a gloating status on facebook.

Feel like I make this post every year in this thread, but each time it gets more defeated. All that hard work we did in 2009 to try and save our club. I remember standing outside the ground handing out SOS leaflets with a few other lads trying to educate people who didn't even know who Hicks and Gillete were what the f**k was going on.

Why did we bother?

What happened to that share Liverpool FC campaign? Where the fans would attempt to buy the club.

What happened to that share Liverpool FC campaign? Where the fans would attempt to buy the club.

The share price each was £5000. Far too much and it never got off the ground.

The share price each was £5000. Far too much and it never got off the ground.

You'd only need 20,000 to 30,000 people to do that depending on the valuation at the time of sale; unfortunately unless LFC became publicly traded for 51% or more of its value the supporters could not own a club so big; not to mention the hazards to the club if it was traded like the mancs.

Have to give credit where it's due, the crowd sounded amazing last night in the feed I was watching.

Oh when the reds go marching in. Fields of Anfield Rd. And everything else is sang by about fifth of the people in the Kop.

Selfie sticks and f**king Ipads and all the mobile phones.

Heard a few people say in the space of one season it has got much much worse.  Couldn't believe it the other day when we kicked off second half and the middle section of the Main Stand was empty but not just that - large part of the upper and lower were fairly empty - as if there is so much going on in that new stand now that the footy is a sideline to the fun factory of going to Anfield for your dinner or something!

unfortunately unless LFC became publicly traded for 51% or more of its value the supporters could not own a club so big

Not now.  Moores probably should have sold it somehow to the fans or let the fans have a stake.  I can't remember what he sold it to Hicks and Gillett but it probably wasn't completely out of the remit of a sizeable supporter ownership.

Anyway, I'm going off topic. 

Have to give credit where it's due, the crowd sounded amazing last night in the feed I was watching.

Yeah. So loud that Migs couldn't hear the ref's whistle for David Luiz's free-kick.

That's another Anfield problem as well!

Cognitive dissonance. We all know that no player or coach (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck for the club, they just do it because of the money and use the tradition and fans to deflect from the real reasons. We all know that the whole Club (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck about its fans, it's just a corporation eventually that wants to generate money and needs fans to do so. There is no instrinsic reason anymore like love, pride, honor, belonging or genuine affection. We, the fans, have it, but not them. But still we fans love our team because we basically close our eyes and pretend we matter and pretend thoese fellas love to play @Anfield.

But more and more we can't close our eyes, the real people walk away, they go down to some 5th or 6th league team, because there everything is still more authentic.

Cognitive dissonance. We all know that no player or coach (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck for the club,.

Simply not true.

Many don't give a F**k but there are more than a few (since the 70's) that do genuinely care about the club.

Heard a few people say in the space of one season it has got much much worse.  Couldn't believe it the other day when we kicked off second half and the middle section of the Main Stand was empty but not just that - large part of the upper and lower were fairly empty - as if there is so much going on in that new stand now that the footy is a sideline to the fun factory of going to Anfield for your dinner or something!

Maybe I'm just too much of an optimist but I believe we all have a part to play when we go into Anfield. It's the socialism that Shanks believed in - everyone working together and sharing the rewards. The footy is the same thing. It definitely seems worse to me this season, too. First ten minutes of last night was boss. If only that attitude could be taken into every league game.

Cognitive dissonance. We all know that no player or coach (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck for the club, they just do it because of the money and use the tradition and fans to deflect from the real reasons. We all know that the whole Club (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck about its fans, it's just a corporation eventually that wants to generate money and needs fans to do so. There is no instrinsic reason anymore like love, pride, honor, belonging or genuine affection. We, the fans, have it, but not them. But still we fans love our team because we basically close our eyes and pretend we matter and pretend thoese fellas love to play @Anfield.

But more and more we can't close our eyes, the real people walk away, they go down to some 5th or 6th league team, because there everything is still more authentic.

I think you need to delete your post as what you say is so wrong.I give you examples of people who did give a F**k in the 70s and 80s,Bill Shankly,Bob Paisley.Joe Fagan  and Kenny Dalglish then we had the likes of John Smith,Peter Robinson and too many players to mention for bringing so many cups to Anfield and wore the RED SHIRT of LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB with pride.

Heard a few people say in the space of one season it has got much much worse.  Couldn't believe it the other day when we kicked off second half and the middle section of the Main Stand was empty but not just that - large part of the upper and lower were fairly empty - as if there is so much going on in that new stand now that the footy is a sideline to the fun factory of going to Anfield for your dinner or something!

That part is the corporate bit mate, been like that all season, everybody still eating there cheese and crackers and quaffing bubbly.

Best atmospheres these days are midweek games and the later kick offs like Saturday at 5.30. Less day-tripping bellends.

Cognitive dissonance. We all know that no player or coach (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck for the club, they just do it because of the money and use the tradition and fans to deflect from the real reasons. We all know that the whole Club (since the 70s) did or does give a f*ck about its fans, it's just a corporation eventually that wants to generate money and needs fans to do so. There is no instrinsic reason anymore like love, pride, honor, belonging or genuine affection. We, the fans, have it, but not them. But still we fans love our team because we basically close our eyes and pretend we matter and pretend thoese fellas love to play @Anfield.

But more and more we can't close our eyes, the real people walk away, they go down to some 5th or 6th league team, because there everything is still more authentic.

Talking absolute sh*te there lad!