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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1495: Oct 02, 2016 09:22:01 am
      When you listen to Jenas and Shearer last night on their thoughts on the next England manager it isn't a surprise the mess the England national team.

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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1496: Oct 03, 2016 05:06:11 pm
      Quite amusing how they kept that Pogba challenge on Joe out of it , now if that had been Suarez well  it would have been on a loop .
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      Reply #1497: Oct 03, 2016 05:27:43 pm
      When you listen to Jenas and Shearer last night on their thoughts on the next England manager it isn't a surprise the mess the England national team.



      Missed the programme - what did they say? By all accounts it seems like Ralf Rangnick is gagging for that job and yet the FA won't go near him with a barge pole. Says it all really.
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      Reply #1498: Oct 03, 2016 06:34:38 pm
      Missed the programme - what did they say? By all accounts it seems like Ralf Rangnick is gagging for that job and yet the FA won't go near him with a barge pole. Says it all really.

      Banging on about how it has to be an Englisman, Jenas going on about how hard it is to get coaching badges and the like.
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      Reply #1499: Oct 03, 2016 06:57:12 pm
      Banging on about how it has to be an Englisman, Jenas going on about how hard it is to get coaching badges and the like.

      That's strange as every one of our coaches from u16s level upwards have their Pro A Licence. 

      The one they need to Manage at PL and International level so if anything I'd say it's probably too easy for those with the money to pay for it, like ex players, who then expect to get a top level job rather than "learn" the job from the bottom up.
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      Reply #1500: Oct 03, 2016 07:03:50 pm
      That's strange as every one of our coaches from u16s level upwards have their Pro A Licence. 

      The one they need to Manage at PL and International level so if anything I'd say it's probably too easy for those with the money to pay for it, like ex players, who then expect to get a top level job rather than "learn" the job from the bottom up.

      Jenas was also saying how the FA should have put somebody like Shearer, Gerrard or Lampard in with the new set up but then Linekar interrupted him by saying "but Neville was an assistant to Roy". Jenas' didn't know how to react but simply said something along the lines of "well Neville shouldn't be judged on Roy's management." I don't think Jenas knows that Neville fu**ed up massively at Valencia.
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      Reply #1501: Oct 03, 2016 07:03:52 pm
      That's strange as every one of our coaches from u16s level upwards have their Pro A Licence. 

      The one they need to Manage at PL and International level so if anything I'd say it's probably too easy for those with the money to pay for it, like ex players, who then expect to get a top level job rather than "learn" the job from the bottom up.

      Exactly Debs.

      Jenas is an idiot and I'm not sure how he got the job he has.
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      Reply #1502: Oct 03, 2016 07:32:47 pm
      Jenas was also saying how the FA should have put somebody like Shearer, Gerrard or Lampard in with the new set up but then Linekar interrupted him by saying "but Neville was an assistant to Roy". Jenas' didn't know how to react but simply said something along the lines of "well Neville shouldn't be judged on Roy's management." I don't think Jenas knows that Neville fu**ed up massively at Valencia.

      Exactly Debs.

      Jenas is an idiot and I'm not sure how he got the job he has.

      They're dickheads, all of them.  I could do better analysis than most of them.

      Just checked up on the Pro licence thing and Southgate is a perfect example. 

      Finished his playing career at Middlesbrough in 2006 and immediately got the Managers job after McLaren left for England duties, despite not having the required coaching badges.  He got special dispensation from the FA and PL after the Club argued that due to his extensive Club and International career he hadn't had the time to get them.  3 years later he's sacked after getting them relegated and gets the England u21s job where he's been ever since.

      He's now looking after the senior team after declaring himself not ready for the job just 3 months ago.  How F***ing long does he need?  Is 7 seasons not long enough to learn how to play and win Tournament football?  Or is he just not ready for the pressure and likes his comfy, cosy, cushty job developing kids that haven't a hope in hell of ever making it at the very top level and therefore isn't under the spotlight in terms of who our next generation of England Internationals will be?

      Is that really the best the FA can do after the money that's been spent on their supposed "blueprint for the future"?  The kids aren't challenged at this level so the Manager shouldn't be either?

      Sorry guys, I've gone way off topic but these supposed "expert pundits/ex players" haven't a F***ing clue as they're has beens that haven't kept up with how fast modern football is passing them by.
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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1503: Oct 03, 2016 08:03:36 pm
      Banging on about how it has to be an Englisman, Jenas going on about how hard it is to get coaching badges and the like.

      The cost of going on the courses, in this country, when compared to the rest of Europe is scandalous. Someone is profiteering some where. My cousin's going to get his in Ireland, whilst on a two week holiday with the family and that is still cheaper than doing it through his local FA.
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      Reply #1504: Oct 03, 2016 08:14:29 pm
      The cost of going on the courses, in this country, when compared to the rest of Europe is scandalous. Someone is profiteering some where. My cousin's going to get his in Ireland, whilst on a two week holiday with the family and that is still cheaper than doing it through his local FA.

      You're talking approx £20k from Level 1 through to the Pro A Licence with Level 1 starting at around £150.  Think it's less than £1000 in places like Germany and Spain mate.
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      Reply #1505: Oct 03, 2016 09:06:40 pm
      The cost of going on the courses, in this country, when compared to the rest of Europe is scandalous. Someone is profiteering some where. My cousin's going to get his in Ireland, whilst on a two week holiday with the family and that is still cheaper than doing it through his local FA.

      Wasn't aware of this Rodders but Jenas seemed to be more concerned ex pros such as Scholes and Stevie weren't being approached to get top jobs.

      Those guys can easily afford to get their badges.
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      Reply #1506: Oct 03, 2016 09:25:17 pm
      Wasn't aware of this Rodders but Jenas seemed to be more concerned ex pros such as Scholes and Stevie weren't being approached to get top jobs.

      Those guys can easily afford to get their badges.

      Think Stevie's already well on his way to getting his Pro Licence Si, he was taking some sessions at the Academy before he left.  Problem is there's a massive difference between taking the odd session with a group of star struck 11/12 year olds and actually doing it day in, day out with the pressure of getting results at pro level.  That's where it goes wrong for most of the ex players, they want to or think they should walk into the top jobs without learning the job properly first. 

      Our Academy coaches job is to prepare the lads for the first team, there is no pressure on them to get results in the League.  Yes they want to win but their job isn't on the line if they don't, they're judged on how many make it at Pro level after they leave the Academy.  Whether that's with our 1st team or somewhere else.
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      Reply #1507: Oct 03, 2016 10:12:03 pm
      You're talking approx £20k from Level 1 through to the Pro A Licence with Level 1 starting at around £150.  Think it's less than £1000 in places like Germany and Spain mate.

      It's scandalous.

      I just found this (although from 3 years ago) on espnfc.co.uk...

      The basic FA Level 1 course is £150, while Level 2 rises to £340. Then comes a steep increase. The standard cost of a UEFA "B" License -- a prerequisite to work at a professional club's academy -- is £990, and it can cost as much as £2,450. In Germany, the cost is €430; in Spain it is €1,100. For the UEFA "A" License, an English coach could pay a maximum of £5,820 -- but in Germany it is €530 and in Spain €1,200. Being a member of the FA's Licensed Coaches' Club (free to join for anyone with a basic Level 1 qualification) brings the cost down by 25 percent but the prices are significantly higher than on the continent and unquestionably difficult for the average person to afford, unless sponsored by a club



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      Reply #1508: Oct 03, 2016 10:20:57 pm
      It's scandalous.

      I just found this (although from 3 years ago) on espnfc.co.uk...

      The basic FA Level 1 course is £150, while Level 2 rises to £340. Then comes a steep increase. The standard cost of a UEFA "B" License -- a prerequisite to work at a professional club's academy -- is £990, and it can cost as much as £2,450. In Germany, the cost is €430; in Spain it is €1,100. For the UEFA "A" License, an English coach could pay a maximum of £5,820 -- but in Germany it is €530 and in Spain €1,200. Being a member of the FA's Licensed Coaches' Club (free to join for anyone with a basic Level 1 qualification) brings the cost down by 25 percent but the prices are significantly higher than on the continent and unquestionably difficult for the average person to afford, unless sponsored by a club





      What's even crazier is that people who run local kids teams have to have the licence to coach them yet they wonder why grass roots level footy is dying.  So long as the FA rake in the money, they'll continue to exploit those involved.
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      Reply #1509: Oct 03, 2016 10:28:52 pm
      It's scandalous.

      I just found this (although from 3 years ago) on espnfc.co.uk...

      The basic FA Level 1 course is £150, while Level 2 rises to £340. Then comes a steep increase. The standard cost of a UEFA "B" License -- a prerequisite to work at a professional club's academy -- is £990, and it can cost as much as £2,450. In Germany, the cost is €430; in Spain it is €1,100. For the UEFA "A" License, an English coach could pay a maximum of £5,820 -- but in Germany it is €530 and in Spain €1,200. Being a member of the FA's Licensed Coaches' Club (free to join for anyone with a basic Level 1 qualification) brings the cost down by 25 percent but the prices are significantly higher than on the continent and unquestionably difficult for the average person to afford, unless sponsored by a club





      Some one, some where, is profiteering off the costs of these courses. It's when you hear about some of the FA perks, you know were the money is going. In Somerset, one of the members of the FA is also on the FAs disciplinary board, so he gets 1st class travel on Train, which ain't cheap, free food at a top restaurant as well as other expenses for this day out. The old farts at the FA is an apt moniker, all they care about is their gravy train and grass roots can go and jump.
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      Reply #1510: Oct 04, 2016 09:22:14 pm
      Banging on about how it has to be an Englisman, Jenas going on about how hard it is to get coaching badges and the like.

      And yet every two years after another shameful England exit, the same pair are banging on about 'Something has to change'. Oh the IRONY of them inferring that the likes of Bruce should now get the job.

      For someone who talks so much, he doesn't half come out with such banal sh*t does Jenas. Not half as good as he thinks he is. Him getting schooled by Lehmann on 5 Live over the summer at Euro 2016 was quite something to hear. The condescending tone of Lehmann in response to Jenas during one commentary was fantastic!
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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1511: Nov 06, 2016 10:33:41 pm
      Liverpool first on !!  ;D
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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1512: Nov 07, 2016 11:13:48 am
      Liverpool score 6 goals... and the analysis goes on to put that down to poor defending and wasteful possession from Watford.  :roll:
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      Re: Match of the Day
      Reply #1513: Nov 26, 2016 11:23:00 pm
      Jonathan Pearce is F***ing horrendous.

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      Reply #1514: Nov 26, 2016 11:37:12 pm
      What a tw*t Phil Neville is.

      Apparently Jürgen shows a lack of respect for calling Moyes side for what it was.
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      Reply #1515: Nov 26, 2016 11:56:04 pm
      Jonathan Pearce is F***ing horrendous.



      Used to hate his commentary when he did UEFA Cup coverage on Channel 5.
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      Reply #1516: Nov 27, 2016 12:02:06 am
      What a tw*t Phil Neville is.

      Apparently Jürgen shows a lack of respect for calling Moyes side for what it was.

      Has Phil Neville done anything good in football to merit an opinion?

      edit: Just forgot he was part of the Clusterfuck of a Disaster that was Moyes era at Man Utd. Oh and the clusterfuck that was Everton. That's how irrelevant he is.
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      Reply #1517: Nov 27, 2016 12:44:44 am
      Its not just MOTD that has these idiots.

      Look at every Sports channel, they all have these ex players as pundits, and none of them have that one character trait that knows the game, lets take a look: Phil Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Robbie Savage, Paul Merson, Danny Murphy, Alan Smith, Matt Le Tissier, Michael Owen,  Chris Sutton, Danny Mills. As far as pundits go, every sports channel now is bottom of the barrel stuff, pick a well known idiot, disregard the idiotic choices they made as a player but take as gospel every word they say once they work for whatever channel they are working for as they know best....sort of....

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