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      Re: Boxing
      Reply #750: May 04, 2015 12:26:17 pm
      Surprised that so many people are surprised how Mayweather approached the fight.
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      Reply #751: May 04, 2015 12:41:11 pm
      Surprised that so many people are surprised how Mayweather approached the fight.

      Agreed Si.

      Like him or not (and I'm in the "not" category) he is nothing but consistently excellent at what he does.

      Manny needed to be able to land consistently in order to slow him down and I'm of the opinion to do so you have to be prepared to be physical with him. Manny tried to box his way in and allowed Mayweather to control pace and distance.

      I still think a physical fight from Alvarez would have been interesting but he too tried to fence with Mayweather.

      Castillo, De La Hoya and Maidana showed the blueprint......executing it is a different matter though!
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      Re: Boxing
      Reply #752: May 04, 2015 02:19:42 pm
      Surprised that so many people are surprised how Mayweather approached the fight.

      Me too.

      Im not a fan of the guy and would have loved to see 12 rounds of mayhem but it was never going to happen.
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      Reply #753: May 04, 2015 09:44:25 pm
      It was $60 through MainEvent.

      They were never going to tear the sh*t out of each other. Floyd on points decision was the very likely outcome the whole way and i don't think i saw anyone give an opinion otherwise that was associated with boxing before the fight (media, former fighters, experts etc.).

      $60 what a f**king rip off. Thank goodness for people who know how to do illegal downloads.  ;D

      Maybe they weren't going to tear the sh*t out of each other but it would have been a better spectale if they did.

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      Reply #754: May 05, 2015 12:08:45 am
      Me too.

      Im not a fan of the guy and would have loved to see 12 rounds of mayhem but it was never going to happen.

      Plus the facts show Mayweather in the end actually landed more punches. I know its easier to say than do, but the fight was lost in the 1st 3 rounds, Pacman had a slow start where he should have gone for the KO early. He was never going to win on points vs Mayweather.
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      Reply #755: May 05, 2015 12:21:54 pm
      Mayweather refused to fight. He spent the first five rounds landing low blows and grabbing all the time. The fight was fixed. Any other fighter would have had points deducted for the low blows, especially continuous low blows. It is no coincidence that the Nevada Boxing Commission went back on their word and refused Manny the pain killing injection for his shoulder. Did you not see Floyds father giving him a bollocking halfway through the fight? He was telling his own son to fight, to offer something, he was fuming.The crowd were booing him.

      Mayweather knew that Manny was neutralised and couldn't fight with his usual ferocity and 7-8 punch combos because of this injury. Mayweather is a disgrace to boxing, he ran away, as Tyson predicted. He calls himself the greatest ever, he is f**king deluded. He will never be considered the greatest among the purists, armchair fans maybe, but never by the purists. Fighters are meant to fight. Floyd Mayweather Senior acknowledged that, hence the bollocking.

      Was three sheets to the wind when we watched the fight just couldn't understand during the fight why pacman was backing off after landing a few shots , now I know why , a lack lustre affair,  would have felt  cheated had I paid a lot to watch it , Mayweathers biggest fan is himself and that says it all,
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      Reply #756: May 05, 2015 12:26:54 pm
      Surprised that so many people are surprised how Mayweather approached the fight.

      My gripe is about the denial of the painkilling injection. Told him yes and then refused to let him have it. Scam written all over it. I knew how Mayweather would approach the fight, it was the way they screwed Manny over that pissed me off. A full power Manny would have hit through Floyds defence and would have forced Floyd to come out and fight.
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      Reply #757: May 05, 2015 12:29:36 pm
      Why is everyone ignoring the pain killing injection scam? F**k me sideways, Manny was robbed. Mayweather fought a man who was in agony and he still wouldn't engage him.
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      Reply #758: May 05, 2015 01:49:51 pm
      Why is everyone ignoring the pain killing injection scam? F**k me sideways, Manny was robbed. Mayweather fought a man who was in agony and he still wouldn't engage him.

      Pacman having surgery to repair his torn rotator cuff...he'll be out 9-12 months.

      It's obvious it had to be bothering him.

      To be honest, Pacman probably should have never went through with the fight. Should have said "no pain-killer, no fight". Would have forced Mayweather camp's hand. 
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      Reply #759: May 05, 2015 03:49:34 pm
      Somehow I think this was always going to come out & be used as an excuse for a 2nd lucrative fight.

      Bit like David Haye with his toe excuse, just come out with it from the off.
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      Reply #760: May 05, 2015 04:24:19 pm
      Manny should have brought it up on the day of the weigh in when he filled in the medical questionnaire.

      How can anybody think it's right that a fighter should be getting pain killing injections right before a fight though?

      For one it's going to endanger the recipient as his pain threshold has been tampered with meaning it would be harder for him to judge and how is it fair on his opponent that the guy he is meant to be fighting has had pain killers?

      Look, I prefer it when two men are trying to knock each other out but Floyd was head and shoulders above him in terms of speed, tactics and boxing ability. Way above.

      A great boxer will always beat a great fighter.

      Blame Floyd for it coming 4/5 years too late maybe but on the night, Manny just wasn't good enough.
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      Reply #761: May 05, 2015 06:25:41 pm
      Cry me a river Manny. I lost a tonne of respect for him or any fighter who blames injuries. The Nevada State Athletic Commission as w-a-h-s said make you fill in a form informing them of any injuries. He has to be cleared by a doctor to fight so any injuries not picked up can't be that serious. Now if gets injured during the fight it's different in many ways but still if he had 3 arms he wouldn't have won that fight. Really not the actions of a politician to be thinking of excuses  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #762: May 05, 2015 09:58:30 pm
      So glad I stayed up to watch that poxy fight! Almost as bad as when I stayed up to watch Hatton get knocked out in the first round.

      Mayweather is like Mourinho, a coward.
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      Reply #763: May 06, 2015 01:08:50 am
      So glad I stayed up to watch that poxy fight! Almost as bad as when I stayed up to watch Hatton get knocked out in the first round.

      Mayweather is like Mourinho, a coward.

      I'll never forget Tyson V Holyfield at me mates. After 5am I think it came on and with one eye open I managed to stay up for him to bite his f**king ear off just as me open eye closed. Woke up about an hour later with no eye brows.

      Still pisses me off that.
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      Re: Boxing
      Reply #764: May 30, 2015 10:23:51 pm
      Anthony Joshua needs to fight a big name soon, he's destroying everyone at the moment.
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      Reply #765: May 31, 2015 06:00:13 pm
      Anthony Joshua needs to fight a big name soon, he's destroying everyone at the moment.

      Surely it has to be quits for Johnson now after that demolition by Joshua. He's now lost 6 of his last 7 fights and looked to offer absolutely nothing last night.
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      Re: Boxing
      Reply #766: Jun 20, 2015 12:57:55 pm
      Andre Ward slams 'unprofessional' Paul Smith who misses catchweight by 4.4lbs

      Andre Ward branded Paul Smith 'unprofessional' after the British fighter weighed in 4.4lbs over the 172-pound catchweight limit for their Saturday showdown in California.

      Smith came in at 176.6lbs with American Ward at 171.8. The two teams, after hours in talks, have come up with a new, as yet unknown weight limit, which both men must make at another weigh-in later today. Smith will also have to pay a fine for not making 172lbs.

      For his last fight, against WBO super-middleweight champion Arthur Abraham, Smith weighed 165.5lbs.

      Ward looked lean and in relaxed mood as he returns to the ring after 19 months away and he hit out at Smith for coming in at cruiserweight.

      "I'm disappointed with Paul," he told Sky Sports News HQ. "I heard last night that as of yesterday morning he was eight pounds over. You've got to realise in negotiations, my team said 172 and he fought to have it at 170. And he comes in four pounds overweight. It's very unprofessional.

      "Right now my team has work to do with the commission and with Paul's team. We're just not going to be okay with that. I did my part to make my weight like a professional. If he struggled that much with the weight he should have alerted us a long time ago. There could have been a change in the weight. If you wait until the last minute and then get on the scales - it's not a good look.

      "It makes you think, 'is this a strategy?' It doesn't make me more confident - it makes me more motivated. I did my part to make the weight. He didn't and I feel a certain way about that."

      Smith's promoter Eddie Hearn admits Smith miscalculated.

      "Obviously he got things wrong," he said. "Mainly with the travelling and the water retention, the way he does the weight - he's taken on a lot of fluids - and it hasn't worked out for him. Now he's missed the weight.

      "We'll talk - I'm sure it will be fine for the fight. It seems to be a common trend right now in boxing. There are always issues now to resolve and discuss."

      http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/9890548/andre-ward-slams-unprofessional-paul-smith-who-misses-catchweight-by-44lbs

      Unfortunately I don't see Smith achieving much in this fight. He seemed quite negative in his interview during the week too, this weight problem only adds to that. Going for Ward to win convincingly and possibly with a late stoppage.
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      Reply #767: Jul 18, 2015 09:57:14 pm
      Anyone watching the Carl Frampton fight?

      Great to see boxing on ITV again and credit to Carl and his team for going this route.

      Hope the wee man wins tonight!
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      Reply #768: Jul 18, 2015 10:01:16 pm
      Forgot how boring Duke McKenzie is.
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      Reply #769: Jul 18, 2015 10:13:28 pm
      Carl in a bit of bother in the first.

      Down twice in the round.
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      Reply #770: Jul 18, 2015 10:24:00 pm
      Just switched to Frampton now.

      Good win for Quigg just now, hopefully Crolla can get a win too after everything he's been through in the last year.
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      Reply #771: Jul 18, 2015 10:26:02 pm
      Better round there from Carl.

      Needs to establish himself more as Gonzalez is a tricky customer.
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      Reply #772: Jul 18, 2015 10:26:23 pm
      Just switched to Frampton now.

      Good win for Quigg just now, hopefully Crolla can get a win too after everything he's been through in the last year.

      How did Quigg look mate?
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      Reply #773: Jul 18, 2015 10:30:05 pm

      Looked like it could have been a really tough fight after the first round but he absolutely smashed it in the second round, really impressive stuff.
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      Reply #774: Jul 18, 2015 10:33:50 pm
      Looked like it could have been a really tough fight after the first round but he absolutely smashed it in the second round, really impressive stuff.

      Cheers.

      Good couple of rounds from Carl now and getting a hold of this fight.

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