The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread

Another draw. Another bout of knee jerk reactions come out of the bag again.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm badly pissed off but I don't think for a second that getting rid of Benitez is the answer. The man has took us so far since he joined us and deserves a little more thought than simple and fickle calls for his head. The speed that some of our fans jump to when something goes wrong astounds me and shows just how much the fans have changed over the past few years. I wish that these reactions applied to when we do something right.

So I've decided to create a place for all your knees to jump about as much as you like. So the more level headed fans can pick your arguments to shreds and hopefully insert a little common sense into your feeble minds.

Happy moaning!

Nice one, CRK!

For those unsure where to start, it goes a little like this:

F***ing Rafa Benitez.

Get Houllier back I say.

F***ing Rafa Benitez.

Get Houllier back I say.

Cracking example JD.

F***ing Rafa Benitez.

Get Houllier back I say.

F**k Houllier I say.

Bring back Souness.

Just offload Torres and Gerrard now whilst we can still get a lot of money for him to be honest.

And Lucas, don't get me started! He's obviously to blame for all of these draws.

F**k Houllier I say.

Bring back Souness.

Nah, force retire Carragher now and select him as manager.

I think Lucas is the reason the Americans aren't leaving..

Anybody see Rick Parry in goal for the Liverpool legends a few weeks back.

He would have saved that penalty.

Reina is sh*te!

Parry IN!

Where's that Traore fella?

Im going to support Man U from now on!

Im going to support Man U from now on!

Steady on now. That's not even funny.

Wowa, line crossed there man. Next you'll be saying get Fergie in.

Lucas has been playing well. New contract?

Im going to support Man U from now on!

Excuse me?

, so there is a line.!!!!!!

nah, would never dream of it..... for clarification , LFC till i die.!

The man has took us so far since he joined

How far though? Lets be honest he took over when we were a top four side and currently we're still a top four side. People (myself included) started talking up our title chances after wins over United and Chelsea and then when we finally claimed top but we're now hitting the wall. We don't look like champions at the moment and in my opinion it doesn't take five years and god knows how much dosh to get Liverpool Football Club in the top four. Anybody could do that in my opinion. I will point out here and now I'm not calling for his head at this moment as I don't think it'll do much use this far into the season. However I've said since the summer if we don't win the league this year, then I'd like to see him gone. For the reason it doesn't take you five years to get Liverpool second.

No doubt somebody'll talk about how far we've come in Europe and how we have a better squad now than we did under Houllier, so to save you the time and effort I agree. We are again one of the most feared sides in Europe with some of the world's best players but even with all that we're still only a top four side, looking at the cup competitions as our hope of success.

We're still dull, most of the time, to watch as we were under Houllier. We still rely heavily on Gerrard, as we did under Houllier. We still only have one goalscoring forward (Torres), as we did for the majority of Houllier's time (Owen). We're still difficult to beat as we were under Houllier for most of his reign. We're still to mount and sustain a real title challenge (hopefully to end this season) like we were under Houllier. We've not moved on in great leaps and bounds since Houllier. Since Houllier's final year we have, granted, because that was a shambles to watch. But in my opinion we're only at the stage Houllier was between 00-02 right now. Houllier took us back in his final two years and Benitez has built us into a side that will finish in the top four like we were under Houllier in those years. That's why it looks like we've moved on to a new level because of from where we were, but if Benitez inherited the side from 2002, I think we'd be a standstill.

Bring back kewell

DLS.  No time for sensible analysis in this thread.

And back to it...

Time to get rid of Gerrard.  Clearly got his eyes on a move to Man City.

Lets buy ameobi

How far though? Lets be honest he took over when we were a top four side and currently we're still a top four side. People (myself included) started talking up our title chances after wins over United and Chelsea and then when we finally claimed top but we're now hitting the wall. We don't look like champions at the moment and in my opinion it doesn't take five years and god knows how much dosh to get Liverpool Football Club in the top four. Anybody could do that in my opinion. I will point out here and now I'm not calling for his head at this moment as I don't think it'll do much use this far into the season. However I've said since the summer if we don't win the league this year, then I'd like to see him gone. For the reason it doesn't take you five years to get Liverpool second.

No doubt somebody'll talk about how far we've come in Europe and how we have a better squad now than we did under Houllier, so to save you the time and effort I agree. We are again one of the most feared sides in Europe with some of the world's best players but even with all that we're still only a top four side, looking at the cup competitions as our hope of success.

We're still dull, most of the time, to watch as we were under Houllier. We still rely heavily on Gerrard, as we did under Houllier. We still only have one goalscoring forward (Torres), as we did for the majority of Houllier's time (Owen). We're still difficult to beat as we were under Houllier for most of his reign. We're still to mount and sustain a real title challenge (hopefully to end this season) like we were under Houllier. We've not moved on in great leaps and bounds since Houllier. Since Houllier's final year we have, granted, because that was a shambles to watch. But in my opinion we're only at the stage Houllier was between 00-02 right now. Houllier took us back in his final two years and Benitez has built us into a side that will finish in the top four like we were under Houllier in those years. That's why it looks like we've moved on to a new level because of from where we were, but if Benitez inherited the side from 2002, I think we'd be a standstill.

Cracking post.

You've made the points everyone, including myself, would have made regarding Europe so we'll leave that there!

League wise, our progress is always subject to the teams around us. In many respects we have improved vastly, yet if other teams improve more then we've technically gone no further. Benitez's second season would have won us the league most years. This season seems to be going in a pretty strange direction too. We're dropping points and teams that aren't usually up there are up with us and vice versa. We've won some fantastic games yet drew the daft ones and we're still in with a shout. All of this with the added pressure of increased uncertainty back stage.

This season can't be dismissed just yet though. We're in our rut, and hopefully the way out is on Sunday. If our almost clockwork second half of the season run of form kicks in as soon as possible then we may be having an entirely different debate come May. Fingers crossed.

On topic however!

Bring Biscan back!

Lucas Leiva is clearly a real danger inside the penalty box.

Play him up front Rafa!

Put keane in goals and drop gerrard for gods sake he is utter sh*te