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      The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread

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      albertared
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #30: Jan 29, 2009 01:18:10 am
      there again, there are some of us who have never been entirely convinced by senor benitez right from the start so, if we now suggest that he is struggling or whatever, it is NOT knee-jerk it is just confirming our earlier reservations.

      i'm not yet saying "Rafa out" but anyone who still thinks he is a tactical genius is seriously deluding theirself.
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      Reply #31: Jan 29, 2009 01:46:31 am
      How far though? Lets be honest he took over when we were a top four side and currently we're still a top four side. People (myself included) started talking up our title chances after wins over United and Chelsea and then when we finally claimed top but we're now hitting the wall. We don't look like champions at the moment and in my opinion it doesn't take five years and god knows how much dosh to get Liverpool Football Club in the top four. Anybody could do that in my opinion. I will point out here and now I'm not calling for his head at this moment as I don't think it'll do much use this far into the season. However I've said since the summer if we don't win the league this year, then I'd like to see him gone. For the reason it doesn't take you five years to get Liverpool second.

      No doubt somebody'll talk about how far we've come in Europe and how we have a better squad now than we did under Houllier, so to save you the time and effort I agree. We are again one of the most feared sides in Europe with some of the world's best players but even with all that we're still only a top four side, looking at the cup competitions as our hope of success.

      We're still dull, most of the time, to watch as we were under Houllier. We still rely heavily on Gerrard, as we did under Houllier. We still only have one goalscoring forward (Torres), as we did for the majority of Houllier's time (Owen). We're still difficult to beat as we were under Houllier for most of his reign. We're still to mount and sustain a real title challenge (hopefully to end this season) like we were under Houllier. We've not moved on in great leaps and bounds since Houllier. Since Houllier's final year we have, granted, because that was a shambles to watch. But in my opinion we're only at the stage Houllier was between 00-02 right now. Houllier took us back in his final two years and Benitez has built us into a side that will finish in the top four like we were under Houllier in those years. That's why it looks like we've moved on to a new level because of from where we were, but if Benitez inherited the side from 2002, I think we'd be a standstill.

      good points.

      I just hate the way our attack has looked so clueless at times under the current manager. and that our game is based on a good defence and 'har work' & 'high tempo'. Science over artistry, I know this is Rafa's way and it's brought success to a point, in europe for sure.

      I've seen glimpes of great attacking play the past 5 years(the football I was brought up watching) , buts that all they seem to amount to is glimpes. I think Rafa could just of done himself a favour and brought in one or two top quality players with good vision and a bit of magic in their feet. The same way Houllier should of had a player of this type. It's crazy we still rely on Gerrard to be the main and at times only creator in the final third, after all this time.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #32: Jan 29, 2009 04:33:50 am
      Lucas Leiva is clearly a real danger inside the penalty box.

      Play him up front Rafa!
      :D
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #33: Jan 29, 2009 04:54:37 am
      So f**king pissed off letting teams like Stoke/Everton/West Ham leave with a smile on their faces when we dont put them to the shredders.

      Rafa, i love you but seriously, if you really did take off Torres and Stevie today like i read then go home and get a good working over from Montse.
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      Reply #34: Jan 29, 2009 06:11:00 am
      Yeah he did take them off thinking as usual that 1-0 is enough. Before that when the team was announced I was already thinking WTF I mean Alonso and Riera both not starting that is crazy watching last week when Riera replaced Babel he looks leaps and bounds better than Babel does on the wing. The only positive change was to replace Kuyt with Yossi. I really do not understand the f**king point of this rotation bull sh*t and constant need to tinker and f**k about with the team it just creates unease and lack of confidence. Chelsea next, who knows what the f**k will happen.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #35: Jan 29, 2009 07:40:01 am
      There goes the Premiership... and the FA Cup...and Number 6...

      F**k!!!!!!!
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #36: Jan 29, 2009 08:28:15 am
      I think some of the players have a mental block when playing for us, we see the same players before we buy them and you think he'll be a really good acquisition and yet they put on a red shirt and look like they are out of their depth. I am talking of Keane22mill, Babel 11mill, Dosena 8mill, Kuyt bought as a striker 11mill, Pennant 6mill, Benayoun ? 7mill.

      This is the time of year you have to step up a gear and out of all the teams around us we are the only one's that look to be having trouble stepping up a gear, the longer this goes on the harder it becomes for us, look back 6 weeks ago and we were 8 points clear of the mancs with even their extra game not doing them any good but now we are two points behind having played a game more and at the same time we are sinking downward....
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #37: Jan 29, 2009 08:31:21 am
      We should give Lucas and Babel a start against Chelsea. Our top players aren't performing.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #38: Jan 29, 2009 08:48:34 am
      We should give Lucas and Babel a start against Chelsea. Our top players aren't performing.
      :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #39: Jan 29, 2009 08:54:29 am
      Aurelio must take all free kicks even when Gerrard is on the pitch...how the hell did Gerrard only narrowly miss from 50 yards?!?  Aurelio would easily have scored that proved by his other amazing free kicks.  Take a step back Stevie and Fabs will show you how its done.  You cost us three points last night.

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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #40: Jan 29, 2009 08:57:33 am
      I think Lucas should be our captain. Stevie's getting old.
      and bring back Traore, kromkamp, nunez and voronin!
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #41: Jan 29, 2009 09:06:56 am
      I think Lucas should be our captain. Stevie's getting old.
      and bring back Traore, kromkamp, nunez and voronin!
      remove Gerrard from captaincy???  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #42: Jan 29, 2009 10:41:12 am
      Sometimes I get the feeling that Klinsmann might of been the man for LFC ?


       :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #43: Jan 29, 2009 10:43:03 am

      No need for those in this thread!

      Anyway...

      Last night was terrible.  The sooner Gerrard gets sent down the better.
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      Reply #44: Jan 29, 2009 10:51:13 am
      i am losing Patience with Rafa, i find it so frustrating when he tinkers with the side. i say give him till the end of the season and if we don't win nothing we should replace him with martin O'Neill, just look at how well he is doing at villa.
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      Reply #45: Jan 29, 2009 10:52:26 am
      We need unity if we're going to advance!

      Give 100% control of the club to Hicks, kick out Rafa and let him put a yes man in charge. It's the way forward!

      - Hang on, I think the spirit of Sckinny just took control of my fingers!  :f_whistle:
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #46: Jan 29, 2009 11:21:16 am
      Always knew we should never have gotten Riise (hot shot Hamish) and Dudek (Golden Glove). Who is Riera? Gonzalez is the MAN!
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #47: Jan 29, 2009 11:23:22 am
      Nah I really like Cheyrou alot, we'll need him against Chelsea.
      and Diao, he'll score against teams like Villa
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #48: Jan 29, 2009 11:23:36 am
      I am losing Patience with Rafa, I find it so frustrating when he tinkers with the side. I say give him till the end of the season and if we don't win nothing we should replace him with martin O'Neill, just look at how well he is doing at villa.


      Good Ideal. I'm sure he will also be able to tie Barry to the deal to move with him to Anfield too. O' Neil the Man!
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #49: Jan 29, 2009 11:59:00 am
      We should give Lucas and Babel a start against Chelsea. Our top players aren't performing.
      thats no reason to pick Babel who doesn't perform full stop
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      Reply #50: Jan 29, 2009 12:02:22 pm
      If you look closely at pictures from when JFK was shot you clearly see Lucas on the grassey knoll and bigfoot is just Lucas without shaving for a week this guy is to blame for everthing. ;D

      And i don't think some people get what this tread is about.  ;)
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #51: Jan 29, 2009 12:34:22 pm
      Losing twice to Spurs this season? Absolute joke.

      Get Sam Allardyce in.
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      Reply #52: Jan 29, 2009 12:34:49 pm
      we slate these players but then u still get people here who criticize our comments , hope they catch the scum now with their stupid comments , experience will tell you when the scum is on top thats where they are gonna stay , we slate those players because of them we are now were we are , we need a miracle now
      Just taking the piss buddy i actually don't rate Lucas but he's not the only problem at the club but i won't be giving up just yet wrong or right win or lose i'll still support the team on the other side i won't be wearing the blinkers like some who think everything is great cause we've more points than this time last year.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #53: Jan 29, 2009 12:35:58 pm
      Losing twice to Spurs this season? Absolute joke.

      Get Sam Allardyce in.

      I'd love a bit of that!

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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #54: Jan 29, 2009 12:46:21 pm
      Lets buy cahill and make him captain.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #55: Jan 29, 2009 01:41:44 pm
      I always knew torres will crumble in his second season. Oh! how I miss the era of El Haj Diouf and Cisse! The deadliest partnership upfront.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #56: Jan 29, 2009 01:51:05 pm
      I know this thread is supposed to be light hearted and a bi of a laugh but to be honest I cant see much to laugh at when we're pissing the league away n choking just like the mancs said we would. Something needs to be done at the club. Im by no means the one with the answers but at this stage of the season Rafa needs to be. He's feeling the preassure of being at the top and a manager of his experience shouldnt be. Call it a knee-jerk  if you want but I believe something is wrong at the club and at this point we cant blame Parry or the yanks. This season our team is good enough to win the league and after 18 years we as fans deserve to settle for nothing less. Although the season is by no means over it is getting increasingly hard to keep faith as just as we are struggling to hang onto a lead, the mancs are hitting form and getting win after win. Rite Im done being a misery guts now, bring on Chavski ! YNWA
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #57: Jan 29, 2009 02:11:27 pm
      LOL, so there is a line.!!!!!!

      nah, would never dream of it..... for clarification , LFC till i die.!

      The line was crossed, it was crossed by that much its just dot in the horizon ;)
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #58: Jan 29, 2009 02:15:15 pm
      Liverpool should sack Rafa, appoint Tony Mowbray as manager and start playing football.
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      Re: The Official LFC Reds Knee Jerk Thread
      Reply #59: Jan 29, 2009 04:37:50 pm
      hang on a minute, didn't nunez once score against Cheski??? Get him back for Sunday

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