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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #100: Apr 16, 2009 10:01:53 pm
      You believe it was the choice of the families. Do you even know the families have been split for many years? Tiresome to see a representative of the liars. The cover up was instigated by the government. Took them 20 years to attend. Did they walk up? Why not invite the bi*ch Thatcher and her buddies? Maybe Cloughie as well.

      Whether anyone believes it was the choice of the families or not is irrelevant. And whether or not the families have been split for years is no ones business apart from the families.

      What is relevant is reds bickering about it at a time which should be about one thing and one thing only. We all continue to seek justice and accountability what ever way we can for every other day of the year, each year.

      Personally my ears were deaf when the politician took to the field. He was there but not through a choice of mine. So it's not worth going on about in my opinion. There's not much more damage any politicians can already do.

      What was important was a show of support and the families had that in abundance.

      And as for the dig at people during games now and how theres "no such thing as safe standing"...f**k off. I go to football games in non league and the football league every week and ALWAYS stand along with everyone else. And yes sitting down DOES kill the atmosphere. Dont really feel like having a rant in this thread but those comments were totally out of order and pretty hypocritical in terms of saying how ignorant some comments on the internet are, well saying theres no such thing as safe standing is just as ignorant.

      Until you've walked in Trevor Hick's shoes, you've got no right to tell him to f**k off if he believes there's no such thing as safe standing. There's nothing wrong with saying you disagree, but the manner of your post was of the highest form of ignorance for me. Which is ironic when you say you don't really feel like having a rant...
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #101: Apr 16, 2009 10:05:09 pm
      Don't know where I got Scoggins from. Scraton's book is by far the best book on the market,that I know of, but can be difficult to read in parts. A more concise booklet can be obtained from HJC shop titled Hillsborough Context and consequences. A mere 30 pages, it gives people a quick reconstruction of the key events. Once again, i do not wish to be controversial or disrespectful. It is a time for anger and frustration, unfortunately.

      Mate, I know where you coming from, and I just wanted to say I wasn't having a go! I've never been able to read that Truth book fully, as you say it is difficult.
      Had to agree a little bit with what you were saying regarding the taking of photos and such. Went with my mum yesterday, she is in her 50's and a kopite from the 60s, she felt it was a bit disrespectful taking photos and people rushing to get signatures of ex-players.

      I was 10 myself when Hillsborough happened, suppose I got lucky, in that I couldn't get a ticket, my dad did and luckily enough came home, he was in the stand above pulling people up, but only last night told me how he nearly ended up in the leppings lane end. When he got in at around 2.30 he initially started heading into the tunnel and something clicked "I'm going the wrong way here" was how he put it to me. Eventually sort of fought his way back out dragging some girl with him who was also in the stand above.

      Me, I ended up consoling my mum who was getting more and more upset listening to the sh*te that was being put out by ITV news at 5.15pm, when of course came the first reports of fans braking down the gates and other wild rumours. I knew he was in a seat, but didn't know which stand, so I was sort of telling my mum he's sound and pointing at one of the side stands and saying he was in there.

      I never been one to show loads of emotion at things like funerals etc, yesterday as like every April 15th I just get this horrible sickening feeling, the same one I got 20 years ago.

      Maybe one day when some of them cu*ts who were in charge, actually show some forgiveness and finally accept it was them that fu**ed up, maybe I'll lose that sickening feeling.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #102: Apr 16, 2009 10:37:07 pm
      Mate, I know where you coming from, and I just wanted to say I wasn't having a go! I've never been able to read that Truth book fully, as you say it is difficult.
      Had to agree a little bit with what you were saying regarding the taking of photos and such. Went with my mum yesterday, she is in her 50's and a kopite from the 60s, she felt it was a bit disrespectful taking photos and people rushing to get signatures of ex-players.

      I was 10 myself when Hillsborough happened, suppose I got lucky, in that I couldn't get a ticket, my dad did and luckily enough came home, he was in the stand above pulling people up, but only last night told me how he nearly ended up in the leppings lane end. When he got in at around 2.30 he initially started heading into the tunnel and something clicked "I'm going the wrong way here" was how he put it to me. Eventually sort of fought his way back out dragging some girl with him who was also in the stand above.

      Me, I ended up consoling my mum who was getting more and more upset listening to the sh*te that was being put out by ITV news at 5.15pm, when of course came the first reports of fans braking down the gates and other wild rumours. I knew he was in a seat, but didn't know which stand, so I was sort of telling my mum he's sound and pointing at one of the side stands and saying he was in there.

      I never been one to show loads of emotion at things like funerals etc, yesterday as like every April 15th I just get this horrible sickening feeling, the same one I got 20 years ago.

      Maybe one day when some of them cu*ts who were in charge, actually show some forgiveness and finally accept it was them that fu**ed up, maybe I'll lose that sickening feeling. Fair comment mate. Think I'll keep quiet for now.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #103: Apr 16, 2009 10:56:48 pm
      Since when do we all decide to go because it is the 20th anniversary?

      I'm not gonna bang on about anything else but this comment I will. I've now been to five of the last seven Memorial Services held at Anfield on the 15th of April, even at times where I've bunked off school to go. Now I'm not looking for praise or taps on the head because that's not what I go for. I go to show my respect. I didn't decide to just pop along because it was the 20th anniversary. I didn't just go so people would think of me as a good little boy. I went because I wanted to show my respect and because I feel it my duty to go. I wasn't born in 89, I didn't arrive until 91, but I still feel angry and bitter towards the same people you do. Maybe not as much because I didn't experince it first hand, I've only got people's stories to go on. But it gets to me, it makes the blood inside of me boil. So don't sit there and tarnish me with this nonesense of "oh you only go with it being the 20th year" because I don't. I go for the love I have for this great club and to show those who did lose a loved one support. And if possible, which I'm sure it will be, I'll be there next year and the year after and the year after that. It's something I make sure I do. As a Liverpool fan and as a human being I'm showing support. I can't imagine what those who lost people are going through, yes I've lost family members mainly through old age or illness, certainly not the way the familes of the 96 lost theirs. So again don't tarnish me or any other person who went there with the right intentions of going "just because it was the 20th year" because that isn't the case.

      There were some there who didn't want to be, like the lad I mentioned earlier whose only sign of emotion came when the players walked out. He shouldn't of been there. And I'm certain he won't be there next year. To not even clap when the families walked out was disgusting, to not even clap when the Celtic fans put the banners on the pitch was disgusting as well and then to jump up and down like a big kid because he saw Steven Gerrard. That's what I meant by not being fit to attend, because I'm pretty sure he didn't and still doesn't have an idea of the true reason why the service was happening.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #104: Apr 16, 2009 11:41:05 pm
      Until you've walked in Trevor Hick's shoes, you've got no right to tell him to f**k off if he believes there's no such thing as safe standing. There's nothing wrong with saying you disagree, but the manner of your post was of the highest form of ignorance for me. Which is ironic when you say you don't really feel like having a rant...

      Ive gone to about 1000 football games in my life and stood on terraces at nearly every single non-lfc game and found them so be very safe and enjoyable, and have also stood for the few away LFC games I have attended. So why am I being ignorant if I take what he said very personally? And I wasnt directing "f**k off" at him personally, but to the notion of all terraces being unsafe.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #105: Apr 17, 2009 12:00:13 am
      Ive gone to about 1000 football games in my life and stood on terraces at nearly every single non-lfc game and found them so be very safe and enjoyable, and have also stood for the few away LFC games I have attended. So why am I being ignorant if I take what he said very personally? And I wasnt directing "f**k off" at him personally, but to the notion of all terraces being unsafe.

      I said there's nothing wrong with you disagreeing. It was the manner of your words that was ignorant. Have another look at what the title of this thread is.
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      Reply #106: Apr 17, 2009 12:45:32 am
      I watched the service with my eldest daughter in complete silence, and it was very moving and dignified.

      Rest in peace our fallen comrades and I pray that justice will be done for you all.
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      Reply #107: Apr 17, 2009 01:16:25 am
      I watched the service with my eldest daughter in complete silence, and it was very moving and dignified.

      Rest in peace our fallen comrades and I pray that justice will be done for you all.

      Summed up the feelings of the day there buddy. I was in work, between 3 pm and 3.07pm I didn't do a tap of work, watched the whole service but for those 7 mins, like yourself I was just silent.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #108: Apr 17, 2009 12:34:27 pm
      http://www.lscm.com.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=527&Itemid=48

      the official liverpool supporter club malaysia did their part in commemorating the 20th anniversay of Hillsborough tragedy.
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      Reply #109: Apr 17, 2009 01:39:06 pm

      Thanks Ross It Was Just An Amazing Day Wasnt It
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      Reply #110: Apr 17, 2009 08:50:07 pm
      Hello...Can anyone please tell me the name of that guy who was singing at the memorial service on Wednesday...not sure what the song was called but the chorus went like "it was a tragedy, a tragedy"..it was so moving and I'd love to be able to get my hands on it....Any info would be much appreciated....YNWA
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #111: Apr 17, 2009 09:14:31 pm
      It was called the Hillsborough Anthem by Lee Roy James.
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      Reply #112: Apr 17, 2009 09:24:38 pm
      It was called the Hillsborough Anthem by Lee Roy James.

      Ahh Thanks very much mate, I do appreciate that.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #113: Apr 17, 2009 09:29:58 pm
      dunlop Liddell Shankly, I touched a nerve there lad.I never meant you or anybody else for that matter. the people I mention are fans of Liverpool FC. I don't believe for one second that they would do anything to disrespect the name of the club. It happens and I am not entirely innocent. You are a young man, your love for the club is evident. When you are my age you will question a lot of things.To me, you are family.
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      Reply #114: Apr 17, 2009 09:30:39 pm
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK37Fjp95iQ#

      There you go fella. Although they've named him Leroy whereas the Hillsborough booklet/service sheet handed out the ground call him Lee Roy James.
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #115: Apr 17, 2009 09:35:33 pm
      dunlop Liddell Shankly, I touched a nerve there lad.I never meant you or anybody else for that matter. the people I mention are fans of Liverpool FC. I don't believe for one second that they would do anything to disrespect the name of the club. It happens and I am not entirely innocent. You are a young man, your love for the club is evident. When you are my age you will question a lot of things.To me, you are family.

      It did hit a nerve mate because I, unlike 20 odd thousand there that day, will be there every year I can be not just "special" years because in my opinion every year is special and the pain isn't made any easier.

      But cheers for clearing it up mate, I'm always touchy around this subject.
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      Reply #116: Apr 17, 2009 09:44:27 pm
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK37Fjp95iQ#

      There you go fella. Although they've named him Leroy whereas the Hillsborough booklet/service sheet handed out the ground call him Lee Roy James.

      Cheers mate, someone else from here has just sent me his name too...I'll watch it now on Youtube.
      BTW it's 'Miss' fella to you..;D :)
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      Reply #117: Apr 17, 2009 09:55:27 pm
      Oooops sorry Miss. Silly me.
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      Reply #118: Apr 18, 2009 01:20:18 pm
      I'm an asian Muslim guy with a long beard, and a life-long Liverpool fan. I remember the day vividly 20 years ago watching Grandstand. I travelled to Anfield for the memorial on Wednesday with my wife (she is covered from head to toe in the hijab) and my 3 small children. Our car was hanging with Liverpool scarves and flags. On arrival into Liverpool from the Midlands, where we live, we were greeted at a bus stop by an individual who started shouting out 'You're not worthy of supporting Liverpool' and 'You should be grateful we let you in into our city'. It was really sad and upset my family. Nevertheless, we continued to Anfield for what we had come for - to show our support to the bereaved families and pay our respects to the dead - inside the stadium was fantastic. We stood out like a sore thumb (if you saw us, you'll know what I mean!) and our presence was appreciated, as a couple of gentlemen told us. My wife said she would never go to Anfield again, which was a pity. There is a lot of bad out there, but the good is greater. However, the bad is what my wife left with, although she enjoyed the ceremony very much, and we shed a tear or two when the balloons were released with 'You'll Never Walk Alone' being sung.
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      Reply #119: Apr 18, 2009 01:26:10 pm
      I'm an asian Muslim guy with a long beard, and a life-long Liverpool fan. I remember the day vividly 20 years ago watching Grandstand. I travelled to Anfield for the memorial on Wednesday with my wife (she is covered from head to toe in the hijab) and my 3 small children. Our car was hanging with Liverpool scarves and flags. On arrival into Liverpool from the Midlands, where we live, we were greeted at a bus stop by an individual who started shouting out 'You're not worthy of supporting Liverpool' and 'You should be grateful wqe let you in into our city'. It was really sad and upset my family. Nevertheless, we continued to Anfield for what we had come for - to show our support to the bereaved families and pay our respects to the dead - inside the stadium was fantastic. We stood out like a sore thumb (if you saw us, you'll know what I mean!) and our presence was appreciated, as a couple of gentlemen told us. My wife said she would never go to Anfield again, which was a pity. There is a lot of bad out there, but the good is greater. However, the bad is what my wife left with, although she enjoyed the ceremony very much, and we shed a tear or two when the balloons were released with 'You'll Never Walk Alone' being sung.

      Thanks for coming all the way from the Midlands, and I'm sorry you had to meet with the minority of 'toe-rags' that live in the City. 

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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #120: Apr 18, 2009 01:44:32 pm
      I'm an asian Muslim guy with a long beard, and a life-long Liverpool fan. I remember the day vividly 20 years ago watching Grandstand. I travelled to Anfield for the memorial on Wednesday with my wife (she is covered from head to toe in the hijab) and my 3 small children. Our car was hanging with Liverpool scarves and flags. On arrival into Liverpool from the Midlands, where we live, we were greeted at a bus stop by an individual who started shouting out 'You're not worthy of supporting Liverpool' and 'You should be grateful we let you in into our city'. It was really sad and upset my family. Nevertheless, we continued to Anfield for what we had come for - to show our support to the bereaved families and pay our respects to the dead - inside the stadium was fantastic. We stood out like a sore thumb (if you saw us, you'll know what I mean!) and our presence was appreciated, as a couple of gentlemen told us. My wife said she would never go to Anfield again, which was a pity. There is a lot of bad out there, but the good is greater. However, the bad is what my wife left with, although she enjoyed the ceremony very much, and we shed a tear or two when the balloons were released with 'You'll Never Walk Alone' being sung.

      As Smigger says mate, sorry to hear you bumped into to some mindless idiots on the way in. Wednesday should have been a day of togetherness for all. Well in to you and your family for making the journey to Liverpool to pay your respects.
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      Reply #121: Apr 18, 2009 04:25:24 pm
      Yep, agreed. Thank you for coming. And you are welcome back any time you wish to visit. Ignore the pillocks - they've never been as far as the Midlands - they give the same abuse to anyone who doesn't wear an all black tracksuit...
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      Reply #122: Apr 18, 2009 06:13:37 pm
      the language of football is humanity and respect for each other, they crossed beyond the barriers of race, religion, political differences and don't even bother if you are rich or poor. if can understand the language then you're welcome to part of it. there are bad christians, bad muslims and bad jews but when you're in a football stadium especially anfield...we know no differences. we're brothers and sisters of LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB and we should be proud of who we are and what we are...we never insult each other nor spread hatred amongst us...as the song says, you'll never walk alone here in LIVERPOOL!
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      Re: 20th Hillsborough Memorial Service at Anfield
      Reply #123: Apr 20, 2009 08:50:47 pm
      I'm an asian Muslim guy with a long beard, and a life-long Liverpool fan. I remember the day vividly 20 years ago watching Grandstand. I travelled to Anfield for the memorial on Wednesday with my wife (she is covered from head to toe in the hijab) and my 3 small children. Our car was hanging with Liverpool scarves and flags. On arrival into Liverpool from the Midlands, where we live, we were greeted at a bus stop by an individual who started shouting out 'You're not worthy of supporting Liverpool' and 'You should be grateful we let you in into our city'. It was really sad and upset my family. Nevertheless, we continued to Anfield for what we had come for - to show our support to the bereaved families and pay our respects to the dead - inside the stadium was fantastic. We stood out like a sore thumb (if you saw us, you'll know what I mean!) and our presence was appreciated, as a couple of gentlemen told us. My wife said she would never go to Anfield again, which was a pity. There is a lot of bad out there, but the good is greater. However, the bad is what my wife left with, although she enjoyed the ceremony very much, and we shed a tear or two when the balloons were released with 'You'll Never Walk Alone' being sung.

      We can only thank you for making the trip and it's unfortunate that you bumped into some mindless yobs on your travels.

      As Kenny and Smiggs have said, Wednesday was about being together in the memory of the 96. Some people still can't get their heads right. Be assured that there were 30,000 in Anfield who didn't feel the same as those idiots you bumped into.

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      Reply #124: Apr 24, 2009 04:37:26 am
      i have supported Liverpool since the age 10 i am now 54 and i travelled to that memorial service and it was beautiful and how wonderful of Gerry marsden to sing our anthem
      So this morning please let us all reflect on the 96 and pray now that our voices will be heard june 20th and we get this enquiry opened
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