Liverpool Crest

Just a question regarding the crest.   Are their 2 different crests?   I have seen one crest which shows the Liverbird in the middle  "Youll Never Walk Alone" on the top and and "1892" on the bottom.

I then saw another which has the same crest as above but then has, what look like "cauldrons" with flames coming out which are on the sides of the Liverbird.

Which one is the "Official" crest?

The official one is the one with the eternal flames to remember the victims of the Hillsborough disaster in 1989.

I think the flames were put onto the badge after Hillsborough weren't they?

Edit:

The official one is the one with the eternal flames to remember the victims of the Hillsborough disaster in 1989.

Yeah.

If I'm not wrong then the cauldrons with flames were added after the Hillsborough disaster. In memory of the 96.

Im sure the official crest is the one with the flames, cause its the one on jerseys etc.

Correct me if im wrong.

Pretty certain the official ones the one with flames on , its on all the merchandise

What they said.

Now I know, thanks!

*Head in hands*

 

There's two flames and I'm sure it's for both victims of Hillsborough and Heysel.

are these the old to new ones

Are you taking the piss with the one on the far right?

FFS.  Is it the rain that's messing with peoples minds today?

Are you taking the piss with the one on the far right?

FFS.  Is it the rain that's messing with peoples minds today?

Very early 60's Liverpool crest that Court, know yer history!

i used to have a badge like that, it looks strangely like the scum's but it's the old type from early yrs, we did exist then court......do you know  who shankly was??? ffs

If I remember, it was never a Liverpool crest, it was "made up" by a manufacturer. Leave it with me and I will find out.

i used to have a badge like that, it looks strangely like the scum's but it's the old type from early yrs, we did exist then court......do you know  who shankly was??? ffs

Ay you cheeky get.

Fair enough, I've never seen that crest before, and my initial thoughts is that it was Man Utd's badge transformed in to an LFC one.

I don't think we had it on our shirts.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool.htm (although it's difficult to see the badges, the first time we had a badge it looks like just a Liverbird in a round white circle)

EDIT: Maybe the 53-54 away kit.

Damn it people stealing my thunder I was going to say one of our crests looked like United's

I don't think we had it on our shirts.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool.htm (although it's difficult to see the badges, the first time we had a badge it looks like just a Liverbird in a round white circle)

EDIT: Maybe the 53-54 away kit.

That's exactly what I was going to say next.

Never ever seen it on an old retro Liverpool kit.

Damn it people stealing my thunder I was going to say one of our crests looked like United's

Unlucky mate.  Watch out though, you'll be asked who Bill Shankly is next! 

I don't think we had it on our shirts.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool.htm (although it's difficult to see the badges, the first time we had a badge it looks like just a Liverbird in a round white circle)

EDIT: Maybe the 53-54 away kit.

No, Liverbird in an eligant sheild

No, Liverbird in an eligant sheild

I'm not too sure mate, have a look.

Near as dam it, but deffo not that ripoff of that scum thing.

Very early 60's Liverpool crest that Court, know yer history!

Ive got a plate from the F.Acup final 1974 with that crest on it, i actually saw one in the Museum once so i presume it must be a collectors item. Thinking about that ill have to dig it out, one of our familys got it for me, or they better still have!

I don't think we had it on our shirts.Ive got tons of 50s and 60s programmes and ive never seen it on any kit, could be wrong though.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool.htm (although it's difficult to see the badges, the first time we had a badge it looks like just a Liverbird in a round white circle)

EDIT: Maybe the 53-54 away kit.

Didn't the flames and come out when it was the centenary?

Bang out of order that the scum, robbed our original design

Ive got a plate from the F.Acup final 1974 with that crest on it, I actually saw one in the Museum once so I presume it must be a collectors item. Thinking about that ill have to dig it out, one of our familys got it for me, or they better still have!

I also have that plate, it takes pride of place amongst my other Liverpool souvenirs.

Ive got a plate from the F.Acup final 1974 with that crest on it, i actually saw one in the Museum once so i presume it must be a collectors item. Thinking about that ill have to dig it out, one of our familys got it for me, or they better still have!

Wasn't it also on the old Main Stand, that was eventually pulled down and made way for the Main Stand we have now.

Was looking for an old picture but couldn't find one appropriate, and thought you'd like to have a wee butcher's...taken between 1903 and 1906...says underneath:

'A photo of Anfield that dates from 1903-6 as the Anfield road enclosure was built in 1903
and the new main stand and terraced Kop from 1906 remain unbuilt.'

Wasn't it also on the old Main Stand, that was eventually pulled down and made way for the Main Stand we have now.

Didn't that just say Liverpool Football Club on it? I might be wrong like.

I've got an old silver plate from from the late 70's which celebrates the two European Cups we won back to back and it has that crest in each four corners. Will have to take a pic an post it up. Paisley had one of them in his office.

Was looking for an old picture but couldn't find one appropriate, and thought you'd like to have a wee butcher's...taken between 1903 and 1906...says underneath:

'A photo of Anfield that dates from 1903-6 as the Anfield road enclosure was built in 1903
and the new main stand and terraced Kop from 1906 remain unbuilt.'

Good finding Gow. There's a thread which that image should go in, somewhere. Think it's called 'Old Anfield'.

Done

Didn't that just say Liverpool Football Club on it? I might be wrong like.

Yes it does Kenny, there's a picture of it in that book 'The Real Bill Shankly' on page 132.

I've been having a root, I've found 3 things with that crest on, the same as on the Liverpool plate, an old sew on badge, a small pennant and a Liverpool waving hand that you put in your car window 

"...and a Liverpool waving hand that you put in your car window"...

as opposed to a Kirkby smashing hand going through your car window?

KFC! KFC! KFC!

Yes it does Kenny, there's a picture of it in that book 'The Real Bill Shankly' on page 132.

I've been having a root, I've found 3 things with that crest on, the same as on the Liverpool plate, an old sew on badge, a small pennant and a Liverpool waving hand that you put in your car window 

We love ya MsG but we don't need to know what you've been doing in your spare time 

I also have that plate, it takes pride of place amongst my other Liverpool souvenirs.

What are the odds you taking that picture 2 days before we started talking about this logo?

We love ya MsG but we don't need to know what you've been doing in your spare time 

  Well now you know Aussie 


Oh JD, I didn't take that piccy, I took it off e-bay, someone is sellling that plate and I just put it on here for people to see the crest.

If this design was really used, who takes credit for using it first? We or the scums? Who followed who?

If this design was really used, who takes credit for using it first? We or the scums? Who followed who?

I am 100% confident it was never used by Liverpool Football Club and is a manufactures / printers design. The plate was to celebrate 1974 FA Cup win, a time when I was alive and kicking, and never saw it on any Kit, Newspaper, Pink Echo, Match of the Day, or The Big Match.