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      smigger15
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      Feb 17, 2007 09:48:46 pm
      Whats the matter with our boys ?  They are supposed to be preparing for one of the most important games of the season and look what they're up to  ::)  Not surprised Mr Pennant is at it again,  ;)   ::) ::) ::)

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=436805&in_page_id=1779 
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      Reply #1: Feb 17, 2007 11:32:28 pm
      Hmm... And Craig Bellamy is supposed to have attacked John Arne Riise in his bed... with a golfclub!?
      Jesus.... Whats going on??!
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      Reply #2: Feb 17, 2007 11:50:20 pm
      lads.........it annoys me that u would belive all this when its coming from a crap newspaper ! if it was everywere i would belive it but until it is actually confirmed iam not going to believe it!
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      Reply #3: Feb 18, 2007 12:44:53 am
      It looks like the reds have admitted something has happened after the 'dealt with internally comment'.

      Let's face it footballers are thick.  They have obviously gone out on the lash with it being their last night and got rotten.

      So it was Dudek, Fowler and Pennant.  Doubt any of the three of them will be there in August.

      Here's the full story:

      Liverpool stars are alleged to have gone on an alcohol-fuelled rampage during a training camp last week in Portugal.

      Goalkeeper Jerzy Dudek, Jermaine Pennant and former England striker Robbie Fowler were named by local newspapers as being involved in a drunken spree at the Barringtons Golf and Health Club, in Vale do Lobo, on the Algarve, in the early hours of Friday morning.

      Dudek, a hero of Liverpool’s Champions League triumph in Istanbul two years ago,was reported to have been handcuffed after the incident, which is alleged to have occurred at the end of a warm-weather training camp undertaken to prepare for Liverpool’s Champions League game in Barcelona on Wednesday.

      A Liverpool spokesman said last night: "The matter will be dealt with internally."

      The future of all three players will be in doubt if the allegations are shown to be true. But Pennant, whose troubled past includes a spell in prison for drunken driving, has the most to lose, with veterans Dudek and Fowler already likely to be leaving the club at the end of the season.

      Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez was in nearby Vilamoura at the time of the alleged trouble. He will be disappointed with the claims against Pennant after he gave the player a chance to resurrect his top-flight career by signing him for £6million from Birmingham last summer.

      The allegations will also make waves across the Atlantic, where the club’s new American owners, George Gillett Jnr and Thomas Hicks, are unlikely to be impressed at the tarnishing of Liverpool’s reputation on the eve of the next formal stage of their £450m takeover.

      Local sources claim the trouble began at a bar called Monty’s, in Vale do Lobo, where about 15 members of the squad had gone for a drink after a team meal on the eve of their departure from Portugal.

      After several rounds of beer, the party reportedly became rowdy and, despite the efforts of captain Steven Gerrard and England international Peter Crouch to defuse the situation, police were called.

      Officers escorted the party back to Barringtons but trouble is said to have flared again. No one was arrested or charged but Dudek is alleged to have been restrained by police. It is understood that Barringtons reported only a broken glass and Liverpool are said to have agreed to pay for any damage.

      The incident recalls the scandal of another sunshine trip by an English club, when a drunken night involving Leicester players in La Manga in 2004 ended in three of them being charged with sexual assault, a case which subsequently collapsed.

      Although not as serious, the allegations against Liverpool could not have come at a more crucial time for the club.

      Shareholders will receive a formal offer document in the morning from Kop Football Ltd, the Hicks/Gillett company bidding for the club.

      Kop will then have a minimum of 21 days to agree a deal with the owners of 75 per cent of the shares, at which point they would be irreversibly committed to buying the club.
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      Reply #4: Feb 18, 2007 03:38:54 am
      F*ckin' hell. What a f*cking let down. Is it just me, or does it sound like a few sunday league kids have gone away on holiday?

      Everybody get ready for the scum newspapers to blow everything out of proportion!
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      Reply #5: Feb 18, 2007 09:14:32 am
      Surprised its not all over Sky Sports News yet !!  How they will love this  ::)
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      Reply #6: Feb 18, 2007 10:12:16 am
      THIS is embarrassing.  LFC are NOT knownto go and behave in that fashion.  I'm telling you this has come at the most crucial time in our season and it's NOT GOOD. Pennant and Bellamy (small fish in a big pond - they should go in the summer), and what the hell was Dudek doing, and as for Robbie ???

      Overpaid and over inflated egos.  Not good.
      Surprised its not all over Sky Sports News yet !!  How they will love this  ::)

      It is Smigger, Jimmy Hills Sunday Supplement - they are caining Bellers
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      Reply #7: Feb 18, 2007 10:39:43 am
      I cant bear to turn that programme on, they get on me nerves that lot around that table never eating whats in front of them !  They will love this, I bet Rafa is fuming, glad the others never got involved though, looks like they've just said bye bye to the best club they'll ever play for - what idiots !!  I'll be glad to see them go, we can do without this at the most crucial time in LFC's history  >:( >:( >:( >:(
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      Reply #8: Feb 18, 2007 01:01:23 pm
      Oh bloody hell what is everybody whining about?
      Don't forget they are only human and they have as much free will as we do.
      Yes it was wrong for them to fo F**k off to some ponsey little place in Portugal for a F***ing drink and got completly bladdered out of their face's. But the only thing I can think about is if a footballer is seen drunk they are called every name under the sun. You have to look at things like the cricket players that on sky sports news (after the win of The Ashes) they all came out drunk and could hardly give a F***ing interview.
      Yeah I know it was their last day up there but the game is on Wednesday.
      Who cares if they wanted to go out and enjoy themselfs? GOD I HATE THE PRESS!
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      Reply #9: Feb 18, 2007 02:32:08 pm
      Whats the matter with our boys ?  They are supposed to be preparing for one of the most important games of the season and look what they're up to  ::)  Not surprised Mr Pennant is at it again,  ;)   ::) ::) ::)

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=436805&in_page_id=1779 
      They're only having a bit of fun!!
      That's blown up 1000x just cos it's Liverpool players!
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      Reply #10: Feb 18, 2007 04:10:20 pm
       >:( What can we expect when we pay them extorinate wages and then let them out on the piss abroad? No different then any other other gang of 20-30 year old blokes having one too many and then regretting what they did in the morning!
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      Reply #11: Feb 18, 2007 04:14:44 pm
      They're only having a bit of fun!!
      That's blown up 1000x just cos it's Liverpool players!
      >:( What can we expect when we pay them extorinate wages and then let them out on the piss abroad? No different then any other other gang of 20-30 year old blokes having one too many and then regretting what they did in the morning!

      Yeah but they're not on their holidays, they're working and preparing for one of the biggest games of the season, bet no-one will make allowances if we lose on Wed !!  Anyone else gets drunk at work and they get fired !   ;)
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      Reply #12: Feb 18, 2007 06:01:01 pm
      Yeah but they're not on their holidays, they're working and preparing for one of the biggest games of the season, bet no-one will make allowances if we lose on Wed !!  Anyone else gets drunk at work and they get fired !   ;)

      Good point that.

      I thought the whole point of the trip was supposed to be training, preparation and "bonding", not a club 18-30 holiday. This doesn't sound like the right sort of bonding does it.. I would much rather have heard about them getting drunk and having a laugh (there's nothing too wrong with that!), than to hear a few of them getting a bit nasty. Just makes me wonder if one or two players have their priorities straight. They represent LFC anywhere they go, all the time (what an honour!!!!!)!! If it's all true, then they are letting the club, us fans and themselves down. Simple as that.
      I don't know all the facts though and I'm hoping it's just all been blown out of proportion.
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      Reply #13: Feb 18, 2007 06:09:03 pm
      Let's think:

      I'm a rival fan, recognise a bunch of footballers having a good time, cause a bit of trouble. Who's likely to get the blame? Stir it all up by claiming to have seen things.
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      Reply #14: Feb 18, 2007 07:35:27 pm
      ^ Yeah exactly. On SSN it said that Rafa said.. oh what was it.. well, action will be taken if anyone was found to be breaking rules.

      Is going out for a night and getting a bit drunk breaking rules? Might be if they gotta train the next day?
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      Reply #15: Feb 18, 2007 08:02:10 pm
      As a person the works in the media world I can hazard a guess that a majority of this is crap... there is no smoke without fire and usually there is an element of truth in some of it! Reading between the lines the story was obviously taken from a local newspaper & remixed... riise & bellamy probably did have an arguement but no more than pushing and shoving and the press having hyped it up out of all proportion to sale newspapers! They were probably slightly rowdy in the bar & that was it... but that wouldnt make good reading would it! They disguise these lies by saying "sources said"... most people are far too intelligent to believe this hype.

      The press, stations like talk sport & tv outlets such as sky sports news have to fill up their pages & airtime so they resort to gutter tactics like these... doesnt help that most of the media is based in London with most of them not being Liverpool fans.

      Until a full investigation has taken place people are innocent till proven guility and if the reports are as bad as they say why wasnt anyone arrested or charged? There is major problems @ barca right now especially after they just lost 2-1 to Valencia and it wouldnt suprise me if this wasnt some how orchestrated from Barca front...

      I hope for all the 5 players mentioned sake & for the sake of club and Rafa this isnt true... ten years after the whole "spice boys" bollocks we dont need these dark clouds over the club again...
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      Reply #16: Feb 18, 2007 09:12:03 pm
      Statement released by Rafa Benitez today:

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N155023070218-1547.htm
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      Reply #17: Feb 18, 2007 09:18:22 pm
      I know the Lads are only human but they are ambassadors for the good name of are club and get paid a lot of money for the privilege. They should leave all the arsing around to the fans! We do a better job of it  ;)
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      Reply #18: Feb 18, 2007 09:28:32 pm
      this is all a crock. i don't believe any of the lads got into any trouble. probably the worst that happened was a broken wine glass or somethin. its all rubbish
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      Reply #19: Feb 18, 2007 10:23:14 pm
      Probably something and nothing,we all know what the press are like for making things up ::)
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      Reply #20: Feb 18, 2007 10:41:14 pm
      they were drunk i bet they have apologized and have realized that they were drunk. the papers are going to say Bellamy did it because he is a hot head. who would believe it if the headlines were "GERRARD AND CROUCH BEAT CARRAGHER WITH GOLF CLUBS" ? that is right no one would and if this did happen i think the police would have said something by now. did anyone also notice the date of the card dirk kuyt sent to the liverpool website ? it was two days ago so things must not be going that bad.i think it was handbags between two drunk players and thing have been blown out of all proportion and if this is true risse will not play against barca and if he does he will have a bandage or something like it on his leg were Bellamy "hit" him and also Bellamy will not play against barca if this is true
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      Reply #21: Feb 19, 2007 01:05:24 am
      "GERRARD AND CROUCH BEAT CARRAGHER WITH GOLF CLUBS" ?
      HAHA Sorry that just sounds soo funny made me laugh loads ;D

      I agree I think it's been blown up 10000x by the press.
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      Reply #22: Feb 19, 2007 08:53:26 am
      God the new owners are quick off the mark to cash in!

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      Reply #23: Feb 19, 2007 10:35:08 am
      If it was THAT serious we would have heard of a police invistagation by now. The newspaper (if we can call it that) who is reporting that story is not the best source for breaking news nevertheless sports!

      Something probably happenned but it was probably nothing more then what british tourits would have done in a portugese bar anyway..

      Now Bellamy and Riise that could be more serious. If it is true I'm afraid there is no option but to sack the lad, he is doing all right for us but you cannot accept that kind of behaviour. Now let's see what will be the outcome of all of this,
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      Reply #24: Feb 19, 2007 10:51:29 am
      Rafa has said that any one who breached club discipline will be fined. It will be interesting to see if any of them do get fined when they get back and what the other implications might be, like being frozen out of the team and a stint in the Ressies!
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      Reply #25: Feb 19, 2007 11:41:12 am
      Hasn't there been talk about Bellers being fined £80K plus he's out the door??  Maybe the paps again blowing things up.  In my view whether it was nothing or something, it has come at the wrong time, and we ALL need to realise this.

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      Reply #26: Feb 19, 2007 01:30:00 pm
      come on guys..to wedneday hey. come on you reds
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      Reply #27: Feb 19, 2007 01:51:22 pm
      Pictures from yesterdays training session, press reports made out Riise would be black and blue Bellamy must have used a rubber golf club because I cant see a mark on him.

      « Last Edit: Feb 19, 2007 01:53:10 pm by Glenbuck »
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      Reply #28: Feb 19, 2007 01:55:11 pm
      Nice one Glenbuck.  Nice to see them looking relaxed and smiling!!  Roll on Wednesday  ;)
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      Reply #29: Feb 19, 2007 02:58:03 pm
      Awww group hug :D ;D
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      Reply #30: Feb 19, 2007 03:58:12 pm
      this was just probably a very minor incident,probably some spanish mole,trying to take the attention off the issues barcelona have.
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      Reply #31: Feb 19, 2007 04:53:03 pm
      this comes as a big relief as there was always a thought that bellamy did it in the back of my mind BRING ON THE CATALANS
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      Reply #32: Feb 19, 2007 05:21:44 pm
      this was just probably a very minor incident,probably some spanish mole,trying to take the attention off the issues barcelona have.

      you might be right, I wondered what the dodgey character by the pool was up to?
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      Reply #33: Feb 19, 2007 05:23:47 pm
      haha good one ^
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      Reply #34: Feb 19, 2007 06:29:54 pm
      actaully, i was checking up on eurosport.com, and they interviewed Morten Gamst Pedersen about the incident, and he said that he felt sorry for Riise. i don't know if it was a scripted interview, or what, but its pretty crazy.
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      Reply #35: Feb 19, 2007 07:01:59 pm
      dudek has said on his website (dont know what the adress is) that he has nothing to do with this,
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      Reply #36: Feb 19, 2007 07:50:45 pm
      "actaully, I was checking up on eurosport.com, and they interviewed Morten Gamst Pedersen about the incident, and he said that he felt sorry for Riise. I don't know if it was a scripted interview, or what, but its pretty crazy."


      Gamst Pedersen and Riise are both norwegians, playing together on the national team etc. Ofcourse Gamst Pedersen would say he is sorry for John Arne is someone asked him. But i dont think that says anything.

      (i didnt know how to put the part from Batmans post in my reply.... lalala)
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      Reply #37: Feb 19, 2007 08:09:54 pm
      It would be much better if somebody came out and said what happened.

      If Craig Bellamy really did smack Riise across the legs with a golf club then he obviously didn't do it hard or surely Riise would be injured.  I would be if somebody cracked me round the legs.

      I don't think Riise would take any messing off Bellamy to be honest.

      I really don't want to add fire to the media frenzy (the media love stories like this - remember the 'Spice boys' and all that) but if there is an ounce of truth in it then Bellamy is finished. Rafa won't tolerate it.  I don't think he would tolerate it from a 30 goals a season striker - never mind a striker that can be replaced.
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      Reply #38: Feb 19, 2007 08:15:10 pm
      It would be much better if somebody came out and said what happened.

      If Craig Bellamy really did smack Riise across the legs with a golf club then he obviously didn't do it hard or surely Riise would be injured.  I would be if somebody cracked me round the legs.

      I don't think Riise would take any messing off Bellamy to be honest.

      I really don't want to add fire to the media frenzy (the media love stories like this - remember the 'Spice boys' and all that) but if there is an ounce of truth in it then Bellamy is finished. Rafa won't tolerate it.  I don't think he would tolerate it from a 30 goals a season striker - never mind a striker that can be replaced.

      Your right there JD, i think JAR would of floored Bellamy if he had done that   ;)
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      Reply #39: Feb 19, 2007 09:27:22 pm
      Pictures from yesterdays training session, press reports made out Riise would be black and blue Bellamy must have used a rubber golf club because I cant see a mark on him.


      No marks can be seen as Riise was only hit on the body so it dont show :laugh:
      Pictures from yesterdays training session, press reports made out Riise would be black and blue Bellamy must have used a rubber golf club because I cant see a mark on him.


      No marks can be seen as Riise was only hit on the body so it dont show
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      Reply #40: Feb 19, 2007 10:34:38 pm
      They deffo from yesterday tall?

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      Reply #41: Feb 20, 2007 08:26:04 am
      They deffo from yesterday tall?



      I took them off the official site mate there deffo from Sunday, heres the link.
      Riise was, "beaten around the legs with a golf club" he looks okay to me

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N155024070219-1015.htm
      « Last Edit: Feb 20, 2007 08:29:41 am by Glenbuck »
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      Reply #42: Feb 20, 2007 11:05:15 pm
      wonder if it was a five iron?Maybe just practicing his golf swing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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      Reply #43: Feb 21, 2007 05:21:39 am
      so two players whose careers are at an end at LFC and two others who came here recently with Liverpool in their hearts? Aren't we playing a a spanish team sometime soon? What is it with english based footballers that when they go abroad that act like idiots...so lets say the newspapers blew the whole thing out of proportion....well there has to have been some incident to have created all this bollocks.... focus and beat Barca!
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      Reply #44: Feb 21, 2007 06:17:22 am
      so lets say the newspapers blew the whole thing out of proportion....well there has to have been some incident to have created all this bollocks....

      A broken glass.. The papers are soo clever!! :)

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