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      Most underrated and overrated solo/bands
      Jul 05, 2009 02:47:57 am
      I'll start with my top five underrated.

      1 - Slade. They are really only known by non-Slade fans for Merry Xmas Everybody. Which is doesn't do them justice because they have many quality songs.
      2 - Small Faces. Never get mentioned in the same breath as The Who or The Rolling Stones or even The Kinks but were just as good. Their music isn't played often enough.
      3 - Lightning Seeds. Quality lyrical work on almost all of their songs but, like Slade, are only known for one "novelty" song - Three Lions with Baddiel and Skinner. Far better than that.
      4 - James. Doesn't get anywhere near as much recognition as they should, made some killer songs and should be up near the top of the list for Manchester's best group.
      5 -  Housemartins. Another who made some quality, catchy songs.

      Now my top five overrated.

      1 - The Verve. Personally I like them, think they have a few good songs but the way people build them up is just ridiculous. They're not great or legendary, just a few good songs from a few years back.
      2 - Pink. Never understood what the hype with her was about. Don't think she's even released a song I could hum along to.
      3 - Atomic Kitten. They got compared to the Spice Girls, who although I'm not a fan of they were the biggest thing to hit the music world in years, was a complete disrespect. Atomic Kitten were a poor effort of a group.
      4 - Sterophonics. Never understood why people liked them. Tried too hard to be the Welsh U2 I thought.
      5 - Happy Mondays. They were a band who gave the world Bez, a bloke who just stands there a dances like a tit. Where's the talent? And yet people put them in the same category as The Smiths, Stone Roses and Oasis as one of Manchester's finest.
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      Reply #1: Jul 05, 2009 09:18:05 am
      So many are on the comeback trail are they skint or just rejuvenated.
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      Reply #2: Jul 05, 2009 09:58:12 am
      Interesting concept DLS.

      May i start by looking at your 'underrated'?  
      The bands you list were anything but 'underrated' in their respective eras. All big bands and all critically acclaimed at the time. Slade, for example, were f**king massive; they owned the U.K. charts in the '70's. Slade had 17 top 20 hits in 5 years (1971 - 1976) which included 6 No.1s, 3 No.2s and 2 No.3s. Three of their singles entered the charts at No.1 and they sold more singles than any other group (in the 70's). I appreciate how difficult this (underrated) aspect of the topic can be because we tend to measure one band against another.

      Anyhow i digress, so back on topic; in my opinion:-

      Underrated:

      The Meat Puppets - don't know what to tell you: they're the best band you don't know if you haven't heard Nirvana unplugged and the best band you didn't realise you knew, if you have.... ;) Their earlier music is a tad mental and influenced Nirvana heavily. The Meat Puppets have a huge and versatile back catalog (12 albums) but the chances are you haven't heard of them at all. Ergo - underrated.  ;D

      Overrated:

      Oasis - What can i say? Eight albums, five of which are ordinary and repetitive. Their lyrics are poor and they rely heavily on a fan base who don't listen to much else. Their fans deserve better but won't demand it 'cause "reason is treason". ...... The Emperor's new clothes, methinks.

      * Lights blue touch paper and steps back. ;D

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      Reply #3: Jul 05, 2009 03:35:28 pm
      I think with Slade mate, I meant underrated in today's world. For a band that were as big, they should be known for more than Merry Xmas Everybody but they aren't in today's world.

      And we'll never agree on Oasis being overrated. I think they're top quality and the reason they're albums are so similar is because when they have tried changing their sound, it hasn't really worked for them.
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      Reply #4: Jul 05, 2009 04:15:09 pm
      I agree with you about Slade, real good band with good music.

      But I have disagree about the Stereophonics, maybe it's because I'm Welsh but I think they are a class act.There again DLS I suppose it's everyone to they're own choice in music.
      « Last Edit: Jul 05, 2009 11:12:42 pm by gareth g, Reason: being thick »
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      Reply #5: Jul 05, 2009 04:51:11 pm
      I'll start with my top five underrated.

      1 - Slade. They are really only known by non-Slade fans for Merry Xmas Everybody. Which is doesn't do them justice because they have many quality songs.
      2 - Small Faces. Never get mentioned in the same breath as The Who or The Rolling Stones or even The Kinks but were just as good. Their music isn't played often enough.
      3 - Lightning Seeds. Quality lyrical work on almost all of their songs but, like Slade, are only known for one "novelty" song - Three Lions with Baddiel and Skinner. Far better than that.
      4 - James. Doesn't get anywhere near as much recognition as they should, made some killer songs and should be up near the top of the list for Manchester's best group.
      5 -  Housemartins. Another who made some quality, catchy songs.

      Now my top five overrated.

      1 - The Verve. Personally I like them, think they have a few good songs but the way people build them up is just ridiculous. They're not great or legendary, just a few good songs from a few years back.
      2 - Pink. Never understood what the hype with her was about. Don't think she's even released a song I could hum along to.
      3 - Atomic Kitten. They got compared to the Spice Girls, who although I'm not a fan of they were the biggest thing to hit the music world in years, was a complete disrespect. Atomic Kitten were a poor effort of a group.
      4 - Sterophonics. Never understood why people liked them. Tried too hard to be the Welsh U2 I thought.
      5 - Happy Mondays. They were a band who gave the world Bez, a bloke who just stands there a dances like a tit. Where's the talent? And yet people put them in the same category as The Smiths, Stone Roses and Oasis as one of Manchester's finest.

      Like Gareth I agree with Slade but disagree with the Stereophonics. Love 'em.
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      Reply #6: Jul 05, 2009 05:14:00 pm
      As said in 'Banquet'...

      So underrated!

      <<<<<<<<<<<<<

      :D
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      Reply #7: Jul 05, 2009 06:56:36 pm
      Overrated: What about?......

      Radiohead - There is no band more boring that Radiohead. Yet, for whatever reason, there are also few bands that have sold as many records as them. Beyond that, their music is as pretentious as all hell and I think that’s why most people listen to them. They put O.K. Computer (for e.g.) in their C.D. rack, maybe crack it open once or twice, and then feel good about themselves owning a 'cool' album.........sh*te I tells ya!  ;D
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      Reply #8: Jul 05, 2009 07:02:41 pm
      I agree, they are overrated.

      However, they do have some very good songs - No Suprises, Paranoid Android and Karma Police for example.
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      Reply #9: Jul 05, 2009 07:10:54 pm
      Overrated- any hip-hop recorded after 1997

      Underrated- The Tragically Hip, the greatest Canadian band ever...
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      Reply #10: Jul 05, 2009 07:11:15 pm
      Madona cant stand the woman.
      Osasis beatless tribute band.
      Slade a fine band with great songs,still going minus Noddy.Does anybody know what a Noddy holder is. Apparently it is Midlands slang for a condom?.
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      Reply #11: Jul 05, 2009 07:13:28 pm

      Can't wait for DLS's reply! :D

      There's some I agree and disagree with here.

      I agree with James being hugely underrated, they did some fantastic stuff, but have to admit being a fan of the Stereophonics and Radiohead.

      I think it's really a matter of personal taste.
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      Reply #12: Jul 05, 2009 07:15:56 pm
      Madona cant stand the woman.
      Osasis beatles tribute band.
      Slade a fine band with great songs,still going minus Noddy.Does anybody know what a Noddy holder is. Apparently it is Midlands slang for a condom?.
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      Reply #13: Jul 05, 2009 07:19:33 pm
      Does anyone else think The Beatles are way overrated?  Even today?

      I've tried listening to their stuff, my Dad loves them but I'm just not getting the hype at all.  I don't mind John Lennon's solo work though.
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      Reply #14: Jul 05, 2009 07:27:08 pm
      There is so much Beatles stuff and it isnt compulsory to like them. I do however and if anyone was lucky enough to see Paul Mcartney's last two Liverpool shows then how could you not like them.
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      Reply #15: Jul 05, 2009 08:22:11 pm
      Does anyone else think The Beatles are way overrated?  Even today?

      I've tried listening to their stuff, my Dad loves them but I'm just not getting the hype at all.  I don't mind John Lennon's solo work though.

      In my opinion - John Lennon's 'Imagine' is the most overrated song of all time.
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      Reply #16: Jul 05, 2009 09:36:50 pm
      I'm not gonna explain why I think Oasis are good and why I don't think they're overrated because it'll turn this into a thread solely about Oasis. But they are not overrated - FACT (well in my opinion ;))

      I think Passenger are underrated, I doubt many have even heard of them. But their Wicked Man's Rest song and album is quality.

      Although a massive band I think UB40 are underrated as well. Again more in the sense that they never get considered as a "great" band generally but more by only their following.
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      Reply #17: Jul 05, 2009 09:41:20 pm
      I always forget that I went to see UB40 with my parents years ago.

      Really enjoyable gig actually, it was on a big field on a nice day.
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      Reply #18: Jul 05, 2009 11:49:56 pm
      Overrated = Anything that gets to number one these days really... Some of it is garbage

      Underrated = People who can actually sing, bands like Alter Bridge, Shinedown, Faith No More, artists like Chris Cornell, people that have the best pure voices in the world today... And most of you reading this haven't even heard of any of them
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      Reply #19: Jul 05, 2009 11:54:26 pm
      Heard of Faith No More.

      I also agree with you on Chris Cornell, fantastic voice. I guess he enjoyed more success in his days with Audioslave though. Maybe he doesn't have a talent for song writing.
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      Reply #20: Jul 06, 2009 12:00:00 am
      Heard of Faith No More.

      I also agree with you on Chris Cornell, fantastic voice. I guess he enjoyed more success in his days with Audioslave though. Maybe he doesn't have a talent for song writing.

      Don't know :P His new album is terrible though, don't know why he even asked Timbaland to get involved in any way shape or form never mind produce it. Shinedown and Alter Bridge are 2 bands you literally have to hear though, Second Chance and Broken Wings are 2 of my favourite songs of all time and I think that anyone would enjoy them if they got more publicity
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      Reply #21: Jul 06, 2009 05:30:10 am
      You really hurt my feelings by mentioning The Verve as overrated.

      They are my favourite band, and they are much more than Urban Hymns. Their first album, for example, is a shoegazer master piece.


      Anyway, the most underrated band IMO is Ride. They are brilliant. Just brilliant. Andy Bell is a wasted talent nowadays playing bass for Oasis.

      I could also mention Stiff Little Fingers as an underrated band. They have all the best you can ask from a punk rock band.


      As for the overrated bands... first one that comes to my mind is MUSE. What I hate the most about them is the fact they are almost great. They get really close of doing great songs, but they ruin them all with some megalomaniac stuff.
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      Reply #22: Jul 07, 2009 12:05:21 am
      I'd say Travis are overrated as well. Another band who I actually like but some people go overboard on their praise.
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      Reply #23: Jul 07, 2009 04:55:59 am
      I'd say Coldplay are overrated before Travis.

      Coldplay are seen as a much bigger band while Travis is a much better one IMO.
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      Reply #24: Jul 07, 2009 05:07:59 am
      Overrated - Pink, Lady Gaga
      Coldplay are good leave them alone.. >:(  ;)
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      Reply #25: Jul 07, 2009 12:12:00 pm
      I'd say Coldplay are overrated before Travis.

      Coldplay are seen as a much bigger band while Travis is a much better one IMO.

      I'd go along with that. Coldplay have a few good songs but they're not great.
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      Reply #26: Jul 07, 2009 05:02:45 pm
      Does anyone else think The Beatles are way overrated?  Even today?

      I've tried listening to their stuff, my Dad loves them but I'm just not getting the hype at all.  I don't mind John Lennon's solo work though.
      Depends what you listen to mate the early Beatles stuff is quite uncomplicated but innovative material,the the stuff immediately prior to Sgt. Pepper and all the subsequent albums have been acknowledged as works of musical genius that changed peoples ideas about the whole way in which music is presented.                                                                                                                      
        If you haven't been into them and listen to all the music thats on the go now with the soundalike bands and immitation bands the origonal talent and groundbreaking performances by the Beatles are long forgotten but there's not too many modern day outfits that do not give them
       credit and appreciate their work.
             John Lennon of course was an unbelievably talented man and I've heard it said that he supported LFC - who else?                          

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      Reply #27: Jul 08, 2009 03:58:29 pm
      I could also mention Stiff Little Fingers as an underrated band. They have all the best you can ask from a punk rock band.

      As for the overrated bands... first one that comes to my mind is MUSE. What I hate the most about them is the fact they are almost great. They get really close of doing great songs, but they ruin them all with some megalomaniac stuff.

      My Dad loves Stiff Little Fingers (seize your opportunity :D), he always used to play them in the car.

      I know what you mean about Muse actually although I do think Matt Bellamy is actually a bit of a genious on the guitar. Some of the solos and riffs he produces are simply brilliant.
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      Reply #28: Jul 08, 2009 08:08:37 pm
      I named my son Jake after Jake Burns out of S.L.F. A great band then and still kicking it now.

      In my opinion anyone who has caught Muse live will know they are anything but overrated. They're the best live act around: by a country mile.
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      Reply #29: Jul 08, 2009 10:20:51 pm
      Guns N Roses are one of the greatest rock bands of all time.. I would even go as far as to say THE GREATEST. What you reckon guys?
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      Reply #30: Jul 08, 2009 11:15:18 pm
      I named my son Jake after Jake Burns out of S.L.F. A great band then and still kicking it now.

      In my opinion anyone who has caught Muse live will know they are anything but overrated. They're the best live act around: by a country mile.


      I understand what you are saying, people say Muse are really great live. But for those who like it... if I dont like their songs, I cant see how I could like them live
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      Reply #31: Jul 09, 2009 09:09:50 am

      I understand what you are saying, people say Muse are really great live. But for those who like it... if I dont like their songs, I cant see how I could like them live

      I hear what you're saying buddy but, to be honest, I thought the same. I was at a festival and had just left a Jimmy Cliff gig when I walked in on this amazing assault on the senses... fecking Muse in full flow! The hairs on the back of my neck were standing, they were truly awesome and I was blown away. No way are Muse overrated, no fecking way!  ;D


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      Reply #32: Jul 09, 2009 05:59:12 pm
      Guns N Roses are one of the greatest rock bands of all time.. I would even go as far as to say THE GREATEST. What you reckon guys?

      Awful and far from the Greatest. Slash is the only reason this band is worth listening to, other than that, bad yank sh*te!
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      Reply #33: Jul 11, 2009 08:34:56 pm
      You've got to look at the Beatles with the fact that they did their stuff 40 odd years ago so they may not sound that special now but they changed a hell of a lot and influenced many bands since and i'm not a fan.
      Imagine has got to be most overrated song ever - sentimental hippie bullsh*t
      never understood oasis with their 2 songs - the slow plodding one and the faster plodding one
      underrated - bucks fizz and that guy who sang the theme to prisoner cell block h
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      Reply #34: Jul 11, 2009 08:35:54 pm
      You've got to look at the Beatles with the fact that they did their stuff 40 odd years ago so they may not sound that special now but they changed a hell of a lot and influenced many bands since and i'm not a fan.
      Imagine has got to be most overrated song ever - sentimental hippie bullsh*t
      never understood oasis with their 2 songs - the slow plodding one and the faster plodding one
      underrated - bucks fizz and that guy who sang the theme to prisoner cell block h

      Agreed. I'm sure I said that earlier in this thread actually.
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      Reply #35: Jul 12, 2009 03:26:00 am
      UNDERRATED:

      MC5..60's U.S. Rock..Came from the Detroit Scene.  Very Punk/Grunge before their was Punk/Grunge. In the same vain as the Stooges/Iggy Pop, Velvet Underground.  Known for long concerts. Once played an 8 hour Gig during the riots at the DNC in Chicago in 1968. Known best for "Kick Out the Jams".

      MotherLoveBone:

      The first TRUE,GREAT Seattle band.  (2) members went on to form Pearl Jam.. Awesome music, Tight sound, great stage show. They were HUGE in the late 80's early 90's Seattle music scene. Signed a huge record contract and were about to go on a huge tour.  Would of been the first of the Seattle bands to make it big. However, due to a too often, Heroin overdose by their singer Andy Wood. The band broke up and the rest is history.  I have a buddy who swears we saw them play in NY, before they were big. I dont remember it but I'll say I did.

      Alice In Chains

      Extremely Popular in the early to late 90's. Caught up in the whole "Grunge" movement and lumped in with all the other bands.   I thought they were better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam combined.  Electric shows. The band was the best live concert I ever saw. They owned the stage and the crowd. Just AWESOME.  C.mon "Again", "Godsmack", "Junkhead"..

      OVERRATED

      Led Zeppelin: Stole all their hit songs. Paid off original artists and forced to remove their names from the credits of their own albums..Enough said.  Want Proof. 

      Google it. "Zeppelin stole Songs".   Their are hundreds of sites all saying the same thing. Some of the sites play the Zeppelin song then they song they "Stole" it from and it is so obvious they ripped people off.

      I dont doubt they were great "Musicians", they were. But they really need to be taken off the "Best of all time" Lists.

      A list of some of the songs Zep stole from other artists:

          * "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
          * "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
          * "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
          * "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
          * "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
          * "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
          * "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
          * "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
          * "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
          * "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
          * "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
          * "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
          * "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
          * "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
          * "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
          * "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."
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      Reply #36: Jul 12, 2009 07:08:16 am
      Alice In Chains Unplugged is bloody amazing. Have to agree with you on this one.
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      Reply #37: Jul 20, 2009 11:18:33 pm
      Eminem is overrated in my opinion. Released a couple of good songs early in is career then after that thought he was too cool for school and became a producer, didn't release a song for four or five years but then returns with awful songs that are supposed to be funny. I don't even care that much about rap but the way everyone loves Eminem is annoying, I reckon tupac was better.

      Oasis have been consistently the best British band for over a decade IMO. People don't like the attitude of Liam and to a lesser extent Noel but that shouldn't take anything away from they're music.Noel is a great songwriter and Liam is a popular lead man with charisma and vocals. They've had 8 number ones which is a great achievement considering all the sh*t in the charts. They could have easily had more too, songs like wonderwall and live forever never topped the charts but are legendary songs nonetheless.
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      Reply #38: Jul 21, 2009 08:01:11 am
      As for the overrated bands... first one that comes to my mind is MUSE. What I hate the most about them is the fact they are almost great. They get really close of doing great songs, but they ruin them all with some megalomaniac stuff.

      Got to say I disagree with you. I think Muse are brilliant, and are one of the best bands from Britain, atm.

      I think Coldplay are overrated. Don't get me wrong, they are a decent band, but not as good as people insist they are. Most of their songs are exactly the same, and depressing. They haven't made an exciting song for years.
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      Reply #39: Jul 21, 2009 03:51:20 pm
      Like Gareth I agree with Slade but disagree with the Stereophonics. Love 'em.

      Same here. And The Lightning Seeds. Seen them at Matthew Street a few years ago.

      Stereophonics have some amazing stuff. Seen them a couple of times, one of my favourites.

      Each to their own though mate. It's be a boring world if everyone liked the same stuff.
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      Reply #40: Aug 31, 2009 11:54:28 pm
      I know this won't go down well with some on here, but Blur are massively overrated in my opinion. I just don't get it with them.

      Velvet Underground are hugly underrated. Sunday Morning by them is top quality. I'd have to say Dire Straits are underrated as well, although pretty much everybody loves Brothers In Arms a lot of their other songs go under the radar so to speak. The Man's Too Strong is an excellent song for example.
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      Reply #41: Aug 31, 2009 11:57:27 pm
      In my opinion, both Velvet Underground and Dire Straits are crap. Dire boredom more like.

      Whereas Blur are awesome. So basically the complete opposite to you! :D
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      Reply #42: Feb 05, 2019 07:00:14 pm
      10 years since a post  :o

      Most underrated band of all time by a distance

      TEARS FOR FEARS
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      Reply #43: Feb 06, 2019 10:04:01 am
      UNDERRATED:

      MC5..60's U.S. Rock..Came from the Detroit Scene.  Very Punk/Grunge before their was Punk/Grunge. In the same vain as the Stooges/Iggy Pop, Velvet Underground.  Known for long concerts. Once played an 8 hour Gig during the riots at the DNC in Chicago in 1968. Known best for "Kick Out the Jams".

      MotherLoveBone:

      The first TRUE,GREAT Seattle band.  (2) members went on to form Pearl Jam.. Awesome music, Tight sound, great stage show. They were HUGE in the late 80's early 90's Seattle music scene. Signed a huge record contract and were about to go on a huge tour.  Would of been the first of the Seattle bands to make it big. However, due to a too often, Heroin overdose by their singer Andy Wood. The band broke up and the rest is history.  I have a buddy who swears we saw them play in NY, before they were big. I dont remember it but I'll say I did.

      Alice In Chains

      Extremely Popular in the early to late 90's. Caught up in the whole "Grunge" movement and lumped in with all the other bands.   I thought they were better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam combined.  Electric shows. The band was the best live concert I ever saw. They owned the stage and the crowd. Just AWESOME.  C.mon "Again", "Godsmack", "Junkhead"..

      OVERRATED

      Led Zeppelin: Stole all their hit songs. Paid off original artists and forced to remove their names from the credits of their own albums..Enough said.  Want Proof. 

      Google it. "Zeppelin stole Songs".   Their are hundreds of sites all saying the same thing. Some of the sites play the Zeppelin song then they song they "Stole" it from and it is so obvious they ripped people off.

      I dont doubt they were great "Musicians", they were. But they really need to be taken off the "Best of all time" Lists.

      A list of some of the songs Zep stole from other artists:

          * "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
          * "Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
          * "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
          * "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
          * "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
          * "Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
          * "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
          * "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
          * "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
          * "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
          * "Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
          * "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
          * "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
          * "Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
          * "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
          * "Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

      What a post this was!
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      Reply #44: Feb 09, 2019 05:27:19 am

      What a thread this was, just read through it :D

      Most overrated band, that I absolutely can’t stabd is U2. Bono always holding a candle to something and their music is generic crap (in my opinion).

      Oh and Muse are brilliant live!
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      Reply #45: Feb 09, 2019 09:51:28 pm
      What a thread this was, just read through it :D

      Most overrated band, that I absolutely can’t stabd is U2. Bono always holding a candle to something and their music is generic crap (in my opinion).

      Oh and Muse are brilliant live!

      Call me a parishioner at the church of U2! Not even Bono's comical politicking can get in the way of me adoring so many of their albums although I fear that such stunts have got in the way of their legacy which in my view is bloody great. The Edge - OH MY! If ever a man painted landscapes with his guitar it was Edge circa 1984 on The Unforgettable Fire - such a beautiful album of space and blended sounds! And then there was the chainsaw buzz and agony he provided on Achtung Baby which makes that one of the most satisfying albums I've ever listened to!

      Underrated acts? I liked the shout for Tears for Fears above. Good call. Very good call!

      Overrated? Kasabian. Lad rock, Soccer AM bullshit complete with their very own 'build your own rock guitarist' walking cliche that is Serge Pizzorno. As for Tom Meighan? Not a very good singer. Not good at all.
      « Last Edit: Feb 09, 2019 09:56:43 pm by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Reply #46: Feb 09, 2019 09:57:24 pm
      What a thread this was, just read through it :D

      Most overrated band, that I absolutely can’t stabd is U2. Bono always holding a candle to something and their music is generic crap (in my opinion).

      Oh and Muse are brilliant live!

      I'm with you.
      U2 are utter utter sh*te
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      Reply #47: Feb 10, 2019 03:08:27 am
      Call me a parishioner at the church of U2! Not even Bono's comical politicking can get in the way of me adoring so many of their albums although I fear that such stunts have got in the way of their legacy which in my view is bloody great. The Edge - OH MY! If ever a man painted landscapes with his guitar it was Edge circa 1984 on The Unforgettable Fire - such a beautiful album of space and blended sounds! And then there was the chainsaw buzz and agony he provided on Achtung Baby which makes that one of the most satisfying albums I've ever listened to!

      Underrated acts? I liked the shout for Tears for Fears above. Good call. Very good call!

      Overrated? Kasabian. Lad rock, Soccer AM bullshit complete with their very own 'build your own rock guitarist' walking cliche that is Serge Pizzorno. As for Tom Meighan? Not a very good singer. Not good at all.

      I knew you’d be in the defend U2 FMS :D

      Good shout on Kasabian, load of sh*te.

      Another overrated one, Red Hot Chili Peppers. Few decent songs but nothing special and stand out really.

      Underrated, The Temper Trap. Saw them live a few years ago and really love their stuff.
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      Reply #48: Feb 10, 2019 11:50:25 am
      Quite amazed to see the comments about Kasabian, seen many live bands but Kasabian ranks with the best.
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      Reply #49: Feb 10, 2019 12:18:55 pm
      Guns N Roses are one of the greatest rock bands of all time.. I would even go as far as to say THE GREATEST. What you reckon guys?

      seriously? better than AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin, Ronnie James Dio, Black Sabbath, Van Halen? not even in the top 10. They had one good album with a few good songs then went downhill from there.
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      Reply #50: Feb 10, 2019 12:25:47 pm
      Overrated: the stone roses, without shadow of a doubt. Seen ian brown live and he was quite a character but all that baggy arsed sh*t, it's a no from me
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      Reply #51: Feb 10, 2019 06:16:25 pm
      Overrated: the stone roses, without shadow of a doubt. Seen ian brown live and he was quite a character but all that baggy arsed sh*t, it's a no from me

      Bang on. I came to that view when I watched a truly dull and uninspiring documentary of them that was directed by Shane Meadows. 'There is nothing to this lot' I thought. Their comeback only revealed to me what a myth they were. Endless shows of playing the same album over and over again. Don't get me wrong, their debut has some great moments (like the first half of I Am The Resurrection only for it to be ruined by a non sensical and self indulgent second half) but that album in itself is way overrated with enough throwaway on it to be considered just so. This is the One - what a load of sh*t that song is and not just because the Mancs walk out to it.
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      Reply #52: Feb 10, 2019 08:34:16 pm
      I quite like the Stone Roses, but the status they have in the UK really feels way over the top. They were good, not legendary or anything. I'm amazed they can sell out Wembley these days.

      I also like Kasabian though I can understand why some people won't. They're so much fun live, though. I'd definitely watch them again.

      I think this guy is underrated:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3RQDfrb6s

      I hadn't listened to Ben Kweller in years until a friend mentioned him days ago and I got back to listen to it. His album Sha Sha is fantastic. I can leave it on repeat while I work and not get tired of it.
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      Reply #53: Feb 11, 2019 09:36:14 pm
      They were more prominent in the early 00s but I always thought Idlewild were a superb band. American English is a wonderful song especially - great melody. Roddy Woomble has turned in a great solo career as well, including some fine Scottish folk albums.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQJvubE01Q
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      Reply #54: Feb 11, 2019 09:48:51 pm
      They were more prominent in the early 00s but I always thought Idlewild were a superb band. American English is a wonderful song especially - great melody. Roddy Woomble has turned in a great solo career as well, including some fine Scottish folk albums.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMQJvubE01Q

      Loved them back in the day, tempted to go and dig out 100 broken windows etc
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      Reply #55: Feb 13, 2019 12:39:50 am
      https://youtu.be/GkIZXKJmZ38

      One of my favourite songs by one of my favourite bands

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