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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #30: Jun 17, 2007 08:51:45 pm
      1: Ausrtailian GP - 3rd - Lewis' 3rd place is the best performance from a new F1 driver since 1996
      2: Malaysian GP - 2nd - Lewis did the fastest lap of the race with 1m36.701 on lap 22.
      3: Bahrain GP    - 2nd - Lewis finished on the podium for the third consecutive time.
      4: Spanish GP    - 2nd - Finished 6.7 seconds behind winner
      5: Moanaco GP  - 2nd - Finished 4 secs behind winner
      6: Canadian GP  - 1st - Started on Pole Position
      7: American GP  - 1st - Started on Pole Position

      Not bad.

      ;)

      Sports Personality of the Year methinks. Thought today's race was a bit boring but well won.  The question is: Is he just like Everton and can't win in Europe?
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      Reply #31: Jun 19, 2007 02:09:16 pm
      i was at that race. it was spectacular. i got pictures of ralf shumacher and his misshap on the first turn. it was amazing. wasn't the best race i've seen, but it was worth the money. at least it wasn't like the race in '05 when only the bridgestones raced. that was pathetic. we almost lost the race at that circuit. and there still making the contract deals right now. we'll know for sure if its coming back to Indy by July 12th. keep your fingers crossed.

      GO HAMILTON!!!!!
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      Sports Personality of the Year methinks. Thought today's race was a bit boring but well won.  The question is: Is he just like Everton and can't win in Europe?

      thats funny JD, we'll see what the year brings us!
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #32: Jul 08, 2007 12:59:36 pm
      Good luck to Lewis today, he starts on pole at the British Grand Prix at Silverstone.
      The race starts at 13.00hrs and is live on ITV.
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #33: Jul 08, 2007 02:36:07 pm
      Hamilton ended up third, Raikkonen (sp?) won it.

      It says a lot for how well he's done that there's an air of disappoinment about Hamilton coming third.
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #34: Jul 08, 2007 04:21:53 pm
      It seems to me like the winner of a Formula One race these days is decided on two factors

      1) Position on the grid

      2) Quality of pit-stop crew

      What happened to good old fashioned over-taking?
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #35: Jul 08, 2007 09:49:39 pm
      Despite starting on Pole position on his 1st Grand Prix on British soil Lewis Hamilton could only manage 3rd place and in fairness he was driving a tank today. The car wasn't up to scratch, that was clear, but 9 podium places from only 9 professional F1 starts - that is an amazing stat!


      Nice to see the new Liverpool striker linking well with the midfield, Fernando Alonso came 2nd  ;)
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      Reply #36: Jul 20, 2007 12:01:09 pm

      What happened to good old fashioned over-taking?

      Oh, it still happens but now it's called MotoGP.

       :oranje

      « Last Edit: Jul 20, 2007 12:03:52 pm by eAyeAddio »
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #37: Jul 20, 2007 01:28:34 pm
      For all those who enjoy F1 you might wanna give this a try.

      http://www.gpro.se/

      I've just started and i'm in Rookie 39

      its alright for free :)
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #38: Jul 21, 2007 03:59:39 pm
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6910032.stm

      Hamilton Unhurt Following Crash



      Lewis Hamilton was unhurt despite being taken away from the Nurburgring on a stretcher after a crash during qualifying for the European Grand Prix.

      The Briton, 22, went into the tyre wall at the 'Schumacher S' bend and struggled to get out of his McLaren before medical assistance arrived.

      McLaren boss Ron Dennis later said that Hamilton was "fine" but was unsure about his fitness for Sunday's race.

      Hamilton was kept at the circuit's medical centre under observation.

      "He has no pain, no broken bones and did not lose consciousness," said Dennis. "We won't decide for a couple of hours."

      Dennis explained that the crash had occurred because the right-front wheel was not attached properly after a wheel gun failure.

      "Effectively the wheel wasn't properly put on, but that's not the mechanic's fault," said Dennis.

      "We are not quite sure what failed but in fact it was quite fortunate because the same gun was used on Fernando (Alonso)'s car and he hadn't started to lean on it yet.

      "We could tell from that it was a gun failure. At least we know we don't have a problem with the car."

      The qualifying session was red-flagged while Hamilton was attended to, and he was taken away on a stretcher, but was well enough to give a thumbs-up signal.

      Officials confirmed that Hamilton had been conscious and speaking when he was taken by ambulance to the medical centre.

      When qualifying restarted, Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen took pole. Hamilton will start from 10th place on the grid if he is passed fit to race.
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      Reply #39: Jul 30, 2007 08:20:48 pm
      so, does anyone else care that ecklstone(?) took out the USGP from the schedule? i live about 100 km north of that circut, and now i won't get to see the greatest racing in the world for quite some time. (sigh) o well, at least hamilton won it. :)
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      Reply #40: Jul 30, 2007 09:19:28 pm
      so, does anyone else care that ecklstone(?) took out the USGP from the schedule? I live about 100 km north of that circut, and now I won't get to see the greatest racing in the world for quite some time. (sigh) o well, at least hamilton won it. :)

      I hear old Bernie has been looking into a few premiership clubs regarding a possible takeover including Arsenal

      He told BBC Sport :
       "If somebody offers me something I think is good value, I will have a go. I'm interested in anything if it's cheap enough."

      He also admits he once opted to buy Chelsea with Renault boss Flavio Briatore some years go,

      "Flavio and I were interested in Chelsea not so long ago," confirmed Ecclestone.

      "I do go to Chelsea. Flav and I went to matches. I go when I've nothing else to do."

      But then he added: "What problem would I be in with Chelsea if I bought Arsenal?"


      Alas all is not lost for the holders of the glorious "Emirates Cup"

      Well done Hamilton for winning both Canadian and American grand prix's.  Let's hope he's "Hungary" for success in the next meeting ;)

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      Reply #41: Jul 31, 2007 12:19:49 am
      I hear old Bernie has been looking into a few premiership clubs regarding a possible takeover including Arsenal

      He told BBC Sport :
       "If somebody offers me something I think is good value, I will have a go. I'm interested in anything if it's cheap enough."

      He also admits he once opted to buy Chelsea with Renault boss Flavio Briatore some years go,

      "Flavio and I were interested in Chelsea not so long ago," confirmed Ecclestone.

      "I do go to Chelsea. Flav and I went to matches. I go when I've nothing else to do."

      But then he added: "What problem would I be in with Chelsea if I bought Arsenal?"


      Alas all is not lost for the holders of the glorious "Emirates Cup"

      Well done Hamilton for winning both Canadian and American grand prix's.  Let's hope he's "Hungary" for success in the next meeting ;)

      Andy


      o no. bernie isn't goin to ruin football. he's an evil old man. :)
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      Reply #42: Oct 01, 2007 01:29:38 am
      I was driving down the M20 to the South coast this morning and I heard on the news that Lewis Hamilton had won the Japanese Grand Prix. I was made up for him for a few reasons.

      1. Lewis has the chance to make history as the 1st rookie driver to win a Formula 1 title.
      2. He has worked so hard to achieve what he has accomplished and at such a young age, just 22!
      3. It would be fantastic to see a British driver lift the crown of World Champion!
      4. Given the intense rivalry from Alonso and the manner he comes across Lewis driving his way to victory with such skill and flair would be the perfect answer.
      5. He has incredible talent, vision, skill and ability and it would be so fitting to see him win the World title as a reward for his efforts.

      Check out this video, Lewis Hamilton knows no fear...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b8D0g0SmB0

      (To check out more of his manouvres click on the menu tab
      and scroll to the video of your choice).

      Official Race Report

      Lewis Hamilton wins wet and wild Japanese Grand Prix, on verge of F1 title

      OYAMA, Japan - Lewis Hamilton won a wet-and-wild Japanese Grand Prix on Sunday to move to the verge of the Formula One title with two races to go after his main rival and McLaren teammate Fernando Alonso crashed out of the race.

      Heikki Kovalainen of Renault was second and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen finished third in a rain affected race that started behind the pace car and had spins, bumps and crashes throughout its 67 laps.

      Hamilton now has a 12-point lead in the drivers standings - 107-95. He can win the world title in his rookie season at China next week if he finishes with at least an 11-point lead over defending champions Alonso.

      Alonso can still win the title but needs a lot of luck.

      Luck deserted him at the Fuji Speedway when he spun and hit the wall hard on the 42nd lap. His car stopped in the middle of the track with debris around him. The Spaniard was helped out of the car and stayed behind a fence for a few laps to contemplate what happened before leaving the scene of the accident.

      Alonso said there was too much water on the track to control his car.

      "When I was braking for turn five I just aquaplaned the car and spun," he said. "Unfortunately the walls at that corner are very close to the track so I hit the barrier heavily and that was it."

      That led the way to Hamilton's fourth victory of the season, tying him with Alonso and Raikkonen for the most wins this year.

      "I think for me one of the most, if not the most, difficult races I had to do. The conditions were changing so much," said Hamilton, who had to contend with spray, fog, and even had to clear up moisture inside his helmet.

      Hamilton has a chance to become the first rookie to take the F1 title, and the Japanese brings him another step closer to an historic championship.

      "It is a big boost in terms of confidence and my drive to be world champion," Hamilton said.

      "There are two races to go. I need to knuckle down and I won't be going partying," he said. "The key for me is to focus on the next race and take it as it comes," Hamilton said.

      Alonso, however, said he hasn't given up hopes of a third straight title.

      "I'm not throwing in the towel, but unless there is a retirement from Hamilton we have to be realistic and see that it's very hard to recover six points per race," Alonso said.

      There was a steady drizzle at the start of the race on a track that's been wet since Saturday. The race started behind the safety car to eliminate the danger of an accident on the first turn.

      The cars were spraying rooster tails of water far behind them while turning laps nearly a minute slower than in Friday's dry conditions.

      The first incident happened on the second lap when Ferrari's Felipe Massa slid out and then headed into the pits to change tires. His teammate Raikkonen soon followed after the team started on intermediate tires, but was told by the sports governing body FIA that they must be on extreme wets like all the other teams.

      "Someone forgot to tell our team," Raikkonen said.

      Hamilton and Alonso were in front and the Ferraris were in back although less than 30 seconds behind but nearly 20 cars between then.

      Then after 18 laps the skies cleared somewhat and the safety car went in and there was racing again.

      After 25 laps, Hamilton and Alonso were 2.7 seconds apart and more than 10 seconds ahead of rookie Sebastian Vettel in a Toro Rosso.

      Hamilton was bumped by Robert Kubica and both spun briefly.

      "I didn't see him. He was on the inside," said Hamilton. "I was very fortunate to still finish. I felt a vibration and thought something wrong with the car. I had it the rest of the race."

      A little later Alonso and Vettel had an identical incident.

      Kubica was later penalized for his part and earned a drive-through penalty, but Alonso suffered worse.

      "I think the car was damaged quite a bit by that but I was able to continue," Alonso said.

      All the pit stops were cleared with 25 laps to go as Hamilton regained the lead.

      No sooner had Hamilton regained the lead than Alonso's race was over. He spun and hit the wall hard, spinning his car across the wet track like a figure-skater on ice doing turns.

      The safety car came out for a few laps, and Mark Webber and Vettel collided while second and third to finish their tilts at the podium.

      Hamilton maintained the lead without a problem the rest of the way.

      Kovalainen and Raikkonen fought tooth and nail over the final lap, with the Finnish Ferrari driver overtaking his compatriot twice before Kovalainen came back immediately to regain second and finish on the podium for the first time.

      "Everybody has asked me about the last few laps with Kimi but my mirrors had steamed up completely and I couldn't see him," Kovalainen said. "He got past me into turn five on the final lap but I wanted (second) so much that I went back round the outside on the way down to turn 10."

      Behind them, David Coulthard of Red Bull was fourth with Renault's Giancarlo Fisichella fifth. Massa ended up sixth with Kubica seventh.

      Raikkonen now has 90 points for the season and still has a mathematical chance to take the title.

      The rivalry between Hamilton and Alonso
      with a Special Guest appearance...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-AQGohc3zI
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #43: Oct 06, 2007 11:58:47 pm
      Who's watching the Shanghai F1 race tomorrow then? Hamilton is on pole with Alonso in forth sandwiching the two Ferrari's so hopefully he has a pretty good chance.  Also the weather forcast for tomorrow is scattered showers so if he drives like he did last weekend it's in the bag.  Button should have a good race too as I remember he won the Hungarian race last year in similar wet conditions, but the teams are likely to start on the wet tyres as a precaution anyway.

      Full starting grid

      1. Hamilton
      2. Raikkonen
      3. Massa
      4. Alonso
      5. Coulthard
      6. R Schumacher
      7. Webber
      8. Heidfeld
      9. Kubica
      10. Button
      11. Liuzzi
      12. Vettel
      13. Trulli
      14. Kovalaninen
      15. Davidson
      16. Barichello
      17. Rosberg
      18. Fisichella
      19. Wurz
      20. Sato
      21. Sutil
      22. Yamamoto

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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #44: Oct 07, 2007 12:12:49 am
      October 07, 2007

      Who's watching the Shanghai F1 race tomorrow then?

      Best of British to Lewis Hamilton

      With just 2 races left of the 2007 Grand Prix season Lewis Hamilton has the opportunity to rewrite the Formula 1 record books. Hamilton needs to finish 5th or higher to become the youngest ever F1 champion aged 22. His closet rival and team mate Fernando Alonso needs to finish with 12 points from 2 races with Hamilton not scoring any points from the final 2 races. This scenario is highly unlikely, Hamilton starts the Chinese Grand Prix on pole position.

      The race is live on ITV at 6am on Sunday morning.

      Alonso still wondering what happened as Hamilton takes pole in China

      SHANGHAI, China - Fernando Alonso couldn't figure what went wrong in qualifying for the Chinese Grand Prix on Saturday.

      The Spaniard had dominated his title rival and McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton in all practice sessions before qualifying, yet when it mattered he ended up fourth and Hamilton took pole.

      "It was frustrating. We are fighting for the world championship and to be fourth is not the best position," Alonso said. "With the battle between Ferrari and McLaren, to be fourth is a very big job. You have to overtake three cars in front of you with the same level. The job is very tough."

      Even in the first two parts of qualifying, Alonso was looking strong.

      "I was looking very confident and optimistic for Q3 (third qualifying session)," Alonso said.

      "When I crossed the line with the first set of tires, I was very, very happy with the lap and I asked what are the positions at the moment. They told me fourth and I was surprised," Alonso said. "I felt the lap was nearly at the maximum."

      "Then we put the soft tires. I improved another two tenths and the lap was extremely good again and the car balance was very good.

      "I expected to be fighting for the pole or a very good position and then I realized I was still in fourth and even a bigger gap to pole position."

      Unless he can turn it around on Sunday, Alonso's two-year reign as champion will end at the hands of his British teammate, even though both have won four races this year.

      Hamilton heads into the race with 107 points, a 12-point lead over Alonso. Hamilton will become the first rookie to clinch the title if he finishes ahead of Alonso, or maintains at least an 11-point margin with only the Brazilian Grand Prix to go.

      Alonso won the title for the past two years with Renault, then moved to McLaren and was expected to have a comfortable season with a rookie as teammate.

      However McLaren's policy of giving equal status to its drivers and Hamilton's surprising ability in his first year ruined those expectations, along with problems off the track.

      The McLaren-Ferrari dispute over the possession of technical data, Alonso's penalty at the Hungarian GP for hampering Hamilton and friction within the team contributed to Alonso's woes.

      "We spoke more about things outside the circuit than inside," Alonso said. "We have been all year listening and reading a lot of things outside the track and some of the decisions also didn't help the people outside Formula One to understand the sport."

      However Alonso didn't help himself. He crashed out in the Japanese GP last week while Hamilton took the win.

      Should 22-year-old Hamilton win the championship, he would break Alonso's record as the youngest driver to win the title.

      But...  :f_doh:
      It all goes pear shaped as Hamilton spins off into the gravel trap on the entrance into the pit lane to change from worn out wet tyres. Team mate Alonso had been running 10 seconds a lap faster at this point and is now 2nd at the time of writing.
      « Last Edit: Oct 07, 2007 08:10:05 am by RED1028 »
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #45: Oct 07, 2007 08:08:17 am
      Hamilton retires from the Chinese GP.  Looks like it's going to go down to the last race....!
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      Reply #46: Oct 07, 2007 08:37:25 am
      Lap 33: Raikkonen and Alonso both pit for dry tyres allowing Massa to close right up on Alonso. The Championship has taken a twist...

      Lap 32: McLaren can't help their rookie. Heads are in hands and there is an air of disappointment in the McLaren garage

      Lap 31: Hamilton goes into pit lane for dry tyres. However, he spins off into the gravel at the start of the pit lane and is beached. The marshals try to help him but they can't. He gets out of his car. His race is over. Hamilton has retired from the Chinese Grand Prix

      Lap 30: Trulli is now fighting with Hamilton as he unlaps himself off the Championship leader. Hamilton is struggling

      Lap 29: Raikkonen gets a good run down the straight at Hamilton and almost takes the lead at the first corner. However, Hamilton fights back and retains P1

      Lap 28: Hamilton runs wide, Raikkonen is right alongside him. Hamilton though nudges Raikkonen out of the way

      Lap 28: Raikkonen has closed right up on Hamilton as the McLaren rookie runs wide. Ralf spins and retires and Sutil crashes and retires while Alonso runs wide

      Lap 21: By staying out a few laps longer Raikkonen has halved Hamilton's lead, which is now just 4secs

      Lap 15: Hamilton pits from the lead of the grand prix. He is in for 6.8s and keeps his intermediate tyres but the front-left is looking quite bald. Hamilton gets back on track ahead of David Coulthard

      Lap 12: Hamilton is by far the fastest man on the track. He is lapping in the 1:45s while the rest of the pack are 1:46s to 1:48s

      Lap 9: Hamilton does a new fastest lap time as he extends his lead over Raikkonen to 5.2s

      Lap 3: Hamilton is pulling away from Raikkonen, the gap is now 2.0s

      Lap 1: Great start from Hamilton while Raikkonen slots into second place, Fernando Alonso takes Felipe Massa at the first corner while Ralf Schumacher spins. Massa fights back two corners later and it back up into third place
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #47: Oct 07, 2007 09:01:45 am
      Raikkonen wins with Alonso in 2nd place.

      This leaves 3 drivers mathematically capable of winning the 2007 F1 World title.

      Lewis Hamilton - 107 points
      Fernando Alonso - 103 points
      Kimi Raikkonen - 100 points

      1st place    10 points
      2nd place    8 points
      3rd place    6 points
      4th place    5 points

      Hamilton must finish 2nd if Alonso wins the Brazilian GP.
      He must finish in the top 4 if there is a different winner.
      Alonso is 4 points behind, Raikkonen is 7 points behind.

      It's not over till it's over!
      « Last Edit: Oct 07, 2007 09:12:58 am by RED1028 »
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      Reply #48: Oct 07, 2007 10:05:42 am
      go kimi! not a fan of Hamilton sorry
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      Reply #49: Oct 07, 2007 11:09:38 am
      go kimi! not a fan of Hamilton sorry

      Not a fan but credit where credit's due...?

      F1 debut season statistics
      4x 1st places, 5x 2nd places, 3x 3rd places, 1x 4th, 1x 5th places, 1 retirement

      Hamilton has matched or set the following records in Formula One:

          * Most consecutive podiums from debut race: 9 (previous record was 2)
          * Most consecutive podiums for a British driver: 9 (tied with Jim Clark)
          * Youngest driver to lead the World Championship.
          * Most wins in a debut season: 4 (equalling Jacques Villeneuve's record from 1996)
          * Most pole positions in a debut season: 6
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      Reply #50: Oct 07, 2007 11:11:24 am
      go kimi! not a fan of Hamilton sorry

      I completely agree. I am not a fan of Hamilton at all and the main reason I watch Formula 1 is for Kimi. IMO on his day he is the fastest driver on the grid and is a joy to watch. What a turnaround it would be for him to win it on the last race as over the years he has been the unluckiest driver, especially with Mclaren where reliability cost him the championship.

      Come on Kimi  ;D
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      Reply #51: Oct 07, 2007 11:32:29 am
      Not a fan but credit where credit's due...?

      F1 debut season statistics
      4x 1st places, 5x 2nd places, 3x 3rd places, 1x 4th, 1x 5th places, 1 retirement

      Hamilton has matched or set the following records in Formula One:

          * Most consecutive podiums from debut race: 9 (previous record was 2)
          * Most consecutive podiums for a British driver: 9 (tied with Jim Clark)
          * Youngest driver to lead the World Championship.
          * Most wins in a debut season: 4 (equalling Jacques Villeneuve's record from 1996)
          * Most pole positions in a debut season: 6

      yes indeed but he's got a hell of a car....I mean I don't really care who win the title in formula 1 but all this hamilton mania is a bit much..the guy is a very good pilot, no doubt, but Jenson Button is too, unfortunately formula 1 is very much so about the car and then about the pilot. If Jenson was driving for mac Laren and hamilton for Honda, who will be racing for the title?....I can still remember the press going on and on about Jenson and now...rarely a word, although with the car he is having, he is doing exceptionally well...
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #52: Oct 07, 2007 01:54:04 pm
      race today was brilliant, going for kimi to win the world championship, but my favourite driver is massa :D
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      Reply #53: Oct 07, 2007 02:54:32 pm
      Not a fan but credit where credit's due...?

      F1 debut season statistics
      4x 1st places, 5x 2nd places, 3x 3rd places, 1x 4th, 1x 5th places, 1 retirement

      Hamilton has matched or set the following records in Formula One:

          * Most consecutive podiums from debut race: 9 (previous record was 2)
          * Most consecutive podiums for a British driver: 9 (tied with Jim Clark)
          * Youngest driver to lead the World Championship.
          * Most wins in a debut season: 4 (equalling Jacques Villeneuve's record from 1996)
          * Most pole positions in a debut season: 6


      And he's British don't forget that all important fact!

      I would love to see Button alongside Hamilton @ MaClaren if they decide to get rid of Alonso and he opts for Ferrari (how interesting would that be) then we'll see how good Button can drive.

      But for now we have an exciting end of season race to look forward too that is sure to be eventful.  It's unlucky that he could not wrap it up today but he'll want it even more now he knows how close Alonso is.

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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #54: Oct 08, 2007 05:25:06 pm
      Alonso will go back to Renult, he knows that he is happy there. Ferrari are apparently interested in Robert Kubica.
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      Reply #55: Oct 08, 2007 09:12:24 pm
      GO FERNANDO!!!!!
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #56: Oct 09, 2007 05:34:44 pm

      He's a cheat.  I hope either Hamilton or Raikkonen wins it.  It will be a travesty if Alonso wins it to be honest.
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      Reply #57: Oct 09, 2007 07:58:53 pm
      Alonso has not given Hamilton the respect he deserves. Did he not try and shunt him off the track recently...? His own team mate...? He has met his Nemisis in Hamilton and is feeling very bitter regards his own own short comings.
      If Raikkonen wins the F1 title then fair enough, he has done it on merit.... but Alonso - that would be tragic for lovers of true sportsmanship.
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #58: Oct 09, 2007 09:16:04 pm
      Alonso has been very VERY crafty and sneaky this year, yet not being British hence having no bias for Luis Hamilton, i still prefare Alonso, i dunno why i guess i root for the bad guy
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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #59: Oct 19, 2007 03:56:41 pm
      So then - is Hamilton going to do it - or is he going to do a Tim Henman and bottle it?

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