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      Reply #4485: Aug 03, 2018 05:27:56 pm
      I'm very surprised, backward step surely??

      I am thinking the same, but his car as been iffy this season, and he'll be No1 driver at Renault.
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      Reply #4486: Aug 03, 2018 05:28:45 pm
      All about the money I reckon. That and knowing Max more likely to get No 1 status in the future.

      I get felling Max is No1.
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      Reply #4487: Aug 03, 2018 06:54:21 pm
      I'm very surprised, backward step surely??

      Came out of the blue that one - the driver market can still gazump press expectations!Sensational coup that for Renault and an ambitious move for Ricciardo. They're a works team and in an era where Ferrari and Mercedes have reaped the benefits of such a status there's definitely a lot of potential for Renault and with Ricciardo they could do that. That said, where Ferrari are now more or less the equal of Mercedes in the power unit stakes, Renault have struggled and failed to make similar gains. And do they have a technical department that is equal to Ricciardo's phenomenal talent? 

      And what of the now vacant seat at Red Bull? Carlos Sainz Jnr maybe? I hope so - his record against Max at Toro Rosso was criminally overlooked/underrated!
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      Reply #4488: Aug 05, 2018 11:51:46 pm
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      I feel like we overreact way too much to uneventful races. Those complaining that 'f1 is dead' or 'f1 isn't what it used to be' seem  to have been phrases that have been bandied about for the last 20 years or so whenever a bad race happens, conveniently forgetting that the last two Grand Prixs at Silverstone and Hockenheim were absolutely world class events. For me, last week's German GP and April's Azerbaijan GP were two of the best races I've seen in the last 10 years.

      Yes - a few of this season's races, like today's have not been up to scratch but there have been plenty of brilliant ones that have excused the bad weekends. As a bonus, the championship is absolutely fascinating. Swinging one way and then the other. It may be in Hamilton's favour at the moment but if this season is anything to go by you can expect it to swing back in favour of Seb.

      Why?

      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Hungary, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Monaco, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Singapore last year, they failed.
      Three circuits that were expected to sustain their title challenge, and they couldn't do it.

      Hamilton has all the momentum his way, and Spa and Monza should see him win both. If he does, that's a long gap for Ferrari to reel in.

      F1 isn't what it used to be because the challenge is not what it was, not because of drab races. There have always been poor races, but there used to be challenging race tracks, and unpredictable races where drivers used to risk everything to win. Neither is the case today. Finishing first now has 7 more points than second, designed to make drivers look to finish as high as possible. Instead they're busy saving engines, fuel, tyres etc for other races down the line, rather than challenge for those extra points that could make the difference in the end.
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      Reply #4489: Aug 06, 2018 09:44:19 pm
      Why?

      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Hungary, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Monaco, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Singapore last year, they failed.
      Three circuits that were expected to sustain their title challenge, and they couldn't do it.

      Hamilton has all the momentum his way, and Spa and Monza should see him win both. If he does, that's a long gap for Ferrari to reel in.

      F1 isn't what it used to be because the challenge is not what it was, not because of drab races. There have always been poor races, but there used to be challenging race tracks, and unpredictable races where drivers used to risk everything to win. Neither is the case today. Finishing first now has 7 more points than second, designed to make drivers look to finish as high as possible. Instead they're busy saving engines, fuel, tyres etc for other races down the line, rather than challenge for those extra points that could make the difference in the end.


      Why? Because the championship lead has changed 5 times this season.

      https://twitter.com/F1/status/1024731074666983425


      Going by your textbook - When Lewis was expected to win in Australia they failed. When Lewis was expected to win in China they failed. When Lewis was expected to win in Austria they failed... etc etc. You get the picture. Keep up.
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      Reply #4490: Aug 09, 2018 08:29:24 pm
      Mercedes are currently the favourites to win every race, bar the three I mentioned. They can afford to have a few howlers and still win the championship. Their rivals need to take advantage of the tracks that best suit them, but they haven't. So Hamilton is now 27 points clear.
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      Reply #4491: Aug 11, 2018 02:58:54 pm
      Mercedes are currently the favourites to win every race, bar the three I mentioned. They can afford to have a few howlers and still win the championship. Their rivals need to take advantage of the tracks that best suit them, but they haven't. So Hamilton is now 27 points clear.

      What rubbish. The Ferrari in the majority of this season's races has been the match of, if not better, than the Mercs. It's showed it's race pace time and time again.
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      Reply #4492: Aug 11, 2018 08:41:02 pm
      Mercedes are currently the favourites to win every race, bar the three I mentioned. They can afford to have a few howlers and still win the championship. Their rivals need to take advantage of the tracks that best suit them, but they haven't. So Hamilton is now 27 points clear.

      Think you better stick to football lad.
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      Reply #4493: Aug 13, 2018 08:52:29 pm
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      Think you better stick to football lad.

      Think you need to see the Drivers/Constructors Tables.
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      Reply #4494: Aug 15, 2018 08:18:31 pm
      Alonso announcing his retirement from F1 is not a shock but it's still a very sad piece of news. For me, F1 since the turn of the century has been defined by three drivers - Schumacher (of course!), Hamilton and Fernando.

      I never really liked Alonso during his first few seasons in f1 particularly his most successful. Why? I was a Schumacher fan wasn't I. Tribal loyalties and all that. But post Schumacher I came to appreciate and adore his presence for the great driver that he was and continues to be. Becoming the then youngest world champion and then double world champion in 05 and 06 was an incredible achievement but for me peak Alonso was the 2012 version. Given a car so far behind the far superior Red Bull and then taking on that Red Bull to the very end of the season was a mark of his consistency and genius! A level of competition in a clearly inferior car that could be compared to Schumacher's early seasons at Ferrari in the mid to late 90s. Like Schumacher he took a dog of a Ferrari (relative to his rivals) and almost took all the glory with it. If it wasn't for a reckless and destructive piece of driving by Romain Grosjean at the start of the 2012 Belgian Grand Prix (where he nearly decapitated Alonso) we'd have been talking of a three time world champion and not the two time world champion that he will always be now.

      But sure, F1 is as much about the decisions you make and the relations you build within the team, and those two massive personable aspects are what Alonso badly lacked. On track though, I thought he was the boss. The arrogance that damaged his f1 career opportunities in recent years is the same arrogance that made for one of the greatest racing drivers in history. Fingers crossed he goes to IndyCar and a sustained attempt at the triple crown.
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      Reply #4495: Aug 15, 2018 09:44:01 pm
      Alonso announcing his retirement from F1 is not a shock but it's still a very sad piece of news. For me, F1 since the turn of the century has been defined by three drivers - Schumacher (of course!), Hamilton and Fernando.

      I never really liked Alonso during his first few seasons in f1 particularly his most successful. Why? I was a Schumacher fan wasn't I. Tribal loyalties and all that. But post Schumacher I came to appreciate and adore his presence for the great driver that he was and continues to be. Becoming the then youngest world champion and then double world champion in 05 and 06 was an incredible achievement but for me peak Alonso was the 2012 version. Given a car so far behind the far superior Red Bull and then taking on that Red Bull to the very end of the season was a mark of his consistency and genius! A level of competition in a clearly inferior car that could be compared to Schumacher's early seasons at Ferrari in the mid to late 90s. Like Schumacher he took a dog of a Ferrari (relative to his rivals) and almost took all the glory with it. If it wasn't for a reckless and destructive piece of driving by Romain Grosjean at the start of the 2012 Belgian Grand Prix (where he nearly decapitated Alonso) we'd have been talking of a three time world champion and not the two time world champion that he will always be now.

      But sure, F1 is as much about the decisions you make and the relations you build within the team, and those two massive personable aspects are what Alonso badly lacked. On track though, I thought he was the boss. The arrogance that damaged his f1 career opportunities in recent years is the same arrogance that made for one of the greatest racing drivers in history. Fingers crossed he goes to IndyCar and a sustained attempt at the triple crown.

      Agree with your comments. its certainly not good for the sport as given the car i have no doubt he would be up their fighting for the championship. Hes obviously got fed up driving for a poor team that can't supply a engine worthy of his talent.

      As previously discussed i went right off him when he was team mates with Hammy for the pitgate tape back in 2007 at Hungarian GP. He's had his karma now. Ive no doubt he will be a success when he leaves for his new venture.
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      Reply #4496: Aug 16, 2018 10:48:12 am
      Why?

      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Hungary, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Monaco, they failed.
      When Seb and Ferrari were expected to win in Singapore last year, they failed.
      Three circuits that were expected to sustain their title challenge, and they couldn't do it.

      Hamilton has all the momentum his way, and Spa and Monza should see him win both. If he does, that's a long gap for Ferrari to reel in.

      F1 isn't what it used to be because the challenge is not what it was, not because of drab races. There have always been poor races, but there used to be challenging race tracks, and unpredictable races where drivers used to risk everything to win. Neither is the case today. Finishing first now has 7 more points than second, designed to make drivers look to finish as high as possible. Instead they're busy saving engines, fuel, tyres etc for other races down the line, rather than challenge for those extra points that could make the difference in the end.

      Spa and Monza are both power tracks.
      That's where Ferrari have found an advantage this season.
      Ferrari need back to back wins and they better do it now.
      If not the season is over, but no Hamilton shouldn't win both.
      If he does Ferrari have blown it.
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      Reply #4497: Aug 17, 2018 07:24:53 pm
      Agree with your comments. its certainly not good for the sport as given the car i have no doubt he would be up their fighting for the championship. Hes obviously got fed up driving for a poor team that can't supply a engine worthy of his talent.

      As previously discussed i went right off him when he was team mates with Hammy for the pitgate tape back in 2007 at Hungarian GP. He's had his karma now. Ive no doubt he will be a success when he leaves for his new venture.

      It was a sensational breakdown in team relations that wasn't it? Boy, did the sh*t hit the fan that weekend in Hungary!

      It was really sad and disappointing that instead of taking the fight to Lewis at McLaren he'd much prefer to burnish any opportunities to win the title in 08 and 09, happier it seemed to accept the very hollow number 1 status that was handed to him back at an uncompetitive Renault.
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      Reply #4498: Aug 20, 2018 10:26:22 pm
      Gasly to replace Ricciardo at Red Bull next season. Massive talent but not entirely sold on the idea for some reason - maybe because I feel he's going to be a bit of a rear gunner for Max who they've had a preference for over Ricciardo for a while (which is mad given Danny Ric's speed).

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45253813
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      Reply #4499: Aug 20, 2018 10:46:11 pm
      looking forward to this Hamilton needs to press on now
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      Reply #4500: Aug 20, 2018 11:21:21 pm
      Gasly to replace Ricciardo at Red Bull next season. Massive talent but not entirely sold on the idea for some reason - maybe because I feel he's going to be a bit of a rear gunner for Max who they've had a preference for over Ricciardo for a while (which is mad given Danny Ric's speed).

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/45253813

      Establishes Max as No 1.
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      Reply #4501: Aug 25, 2018 05:23:07 pm
      Not a bad wet weather driver that Lewis Hamilton fella is. Pole position after a wet Q3. But what about Force India? Maybe they should have a new owner every race!
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      Reply #4502: Aug 25, 2018 08:01:11 pm
      Not a bad wet weather driver that Lewis Hamilton fella is. Pole position after a wet Q3. But what about Force India? Maybe they should have a new owner every race!

      How many times have we said Hammy appears to be unbeatable in the wets? Vettel not on same planet in wet weather conditions.

      Interesting interview the other day when Hammy spoke about Alonso leaving F1. He said Alonso fastest driver he's ever raced against. Bet that went down well with Vettel.  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #4503: Aug 25, 2018 08:37:30 pm
      https://twitter.com/SchumacherMick/status/1033417118841286659

      Mick Schumacher winning his third Euro F3 race of the season. Doing his dad proud.
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      Reply #4504: Aug 26, 2018 10:25:37 am
      The two McLaren and Williams on the back two rows today.

      Sad times for those teams. Grew up with them in F1 and it's not great to see them struggle.
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      Reply #4505: Aug 26, 2018 10:42:47 am
      The two McLaren and Williams on the back two rows today.

      Sad times for those teams. Grew up with them in F1 and it's not great to see them struggle.

      Me too, sad times unfortunately
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      Reply #4506: Aug 26, 2018 12:35:15 pm
      The two McLaren and Williams on the back two rows today.

      Sad times for those teams. Grew up with them in F1 and it's not great to see them struggle.

      Feel more for Williams than McLaren... hoping Paddy can reverse the trend & get them back on top ...
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      Reply #4507: Aug 26, 2018 12:54:59 pm
      Hamilton was 7/10th faster than Vettel that would be something like 50 or 60 metres a lap which could see him lapping most of the field at that rate.
      A good Hamilton winner followed by Newcastle beating Chelsea would make a good weekend.
      Cant see Vettel wanting to get involved too early as he cant risk being taken out. Force India or whatever they are now are very quick on the straights so they will be hard to get past.
      As for McClaren and Williams WTF is going on

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