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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #4650: Jan 03, 2019 08:37:13 am
      One of the earliest celebrity birthdays of the year is that of Michael Schumacher.

      50 years of age today.
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      Reply #4651: Jan 24, 2019 09:24:57 pm
      Some interesting comments by our old friend Eddie Irvine on Seb Vettel!

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/46927041
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      Reply #4652: Jan 24, 2019 09:54:13 pm
      Some interesting comments by our old friend Eddie Irvine on Seb Vettel!

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/46927041

      Harsh comments if I'm being honest. Who was Eddie Irvine anyway?? Did he win anything.  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #4653: Jan 24, 2019 09:58:51 pm
      Harsh comments if I'm being honest. Who was Eddie Irvine anyway?? Did he win anything.  :f_whistle:

      Ferrari reserve driver wasn’t he?
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      Reply #4654: Jan 24, 2019 10:07:27 pm
      Ferrari reserve driver wasn’t he?

      Was tongue in cheek Shabs. Wasn't any good.  :lmao:
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      Reply #4655: Jan 24, 2019 10:33:53 pm
      Was tongue in cheek Shabs. Wasn't any good.  :lmao:

      Yeah I know as was mine without the emoji..

      I think he fluffed his lines when he ended up runner up.. was expecting Schumacher to bail him out..
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      Reply #4656: Jan 24, 2019 10:54:35 pm
      Yeah I know as was mine without the emoji..

      I think he fluffed his lines when he ended up runner up.. was expecting Schumacher to bail him out..


      Schumacher was never going to help someone else to the glory at Ferrari after all his hard work to get the team there.
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      Reply #4657: Jan 24, 2019 10:59:34 pm
      Harsh comments if I'm being honest. Who was Eddie Irvine anyway?? Did he win anything.  :f_whistle:

      Big fan of Eddie Irvine back in the day although he's going overboard on Vettel. Wouldn't say that Lewis is 'nowhere near Michael' either. He's close, even if he still hasn't surpassed Michael in my view.

      I think Michael worked harder to get Ferrari on top compared to Lewis who was helped massively by the big power unit rule change in 2014. Michael and Ferrari didn't benefit from as big a rule change so it was a while coming (four seasons) but when they did reach the top it was near impossible to remove them off it. I still think the era when Schumacher was driving inferior Ferrari's to his Williams/McLaren competitors in the mid to late 90s was f1 driving at it's greatest. In an era of refuelling and no 'engine limits' it's hard to underestimate just how intense that kind of racing was. Every Grand Prix lap was potentially a qualifying lap as Schumi displayed in Hungary 98 when he had to open up a gap of 25 seconds in 19 laps to cover off the mighty McLarens. It was probably the best example of Ross Brawn's tactical supremity and Schumacher's incredible state of mind.

      That said, I think Lewis would have revelled in that kind of racing too, it's probably his most natural state.

      Schumacher was never going to help someone else to the glory at Ferrari after all his hard work to get the team there.

      And too right! There's a great story (of which you've probably heard) that says that Schumacher did not feel like returning to the 1999 season after breaking his leg and he apparently told the President of Ferrari that his leg hadn't fully recovered. Then one day Luca Di Montezemolo calls the Schumacher household and who picks it up but Michael's daughter. 'Is your father in?' asks Luca. 'Yes' says the daughter 'he's just outside playing football!' Needless to say Schumacher gets his orders to return immediately and he's back in the car and proceeds to put the Ferrari on pole by a second ahead of the next fastest man!

      I did like Irvine though but looking back who could ever deprive Mika of one of his two world titles? Just an awesome awesome driver.
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      Reply #4658: Jan 25, 2019 10:07:55 am
      Schumacher was never going to help someone else to the glory at Ferrari after all his hard work to get the team there.

      True.

      Big fan of Eddie Irvine but don't know if that's more because he's a local lad.

      Think he's going a bit overboard on Seb though.
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      Reply #4659: Jan 29, 2019 07:43:31 pm
      Probably would have been better if they'd spoken out 6-7 years ago. They're all moot points though. What's worrying as well is the notion of 'free access' now being defined, by the likes of Liberty, as online content ie 2-3 minute highlight packages that you can view on twitter/youtube.

      https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1090027222965145600
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      Reply #4660: Jan 29, 2019 09:56:11 pm
      Probably would have been better if they'd spoken out 6-7 years ago. They're all moot points though. What's worrying as well is the notion of 'free access' now being defined, by the likes of Liberty, as online content ie 2-3 minute highlight packages that you can view on twitter/youtube.

      https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1090027222965145600

      We grew up with the likes of BBC providing free coverage.
      Little did we realise it was a golden era.
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      Reply #4661: Feb 11, 2019 08:11:14 pm
      One of my favourite liveries has gone with Williams announcing their new car today.

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      Reply #4662: Feb 11, 2019 08:27:03 pm
      One of my favourite liveries has gone with Williams announcing their new car today.



      Not feeling it... shame. But I do love the Haas... 👍🏼
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      Reply #4663: Feb 11, 2019 08:45:29 pm
      Not feeling it... shame. But I do love the Haas... 👍🏼

      Me neither.

      Not sure about the Haas either.
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      Reply #4664: Feb 11, 2019 09:00:55 pm
      Me neither.

      Not sure about the Haas either.

      Love the blacked out look.. ready for business it looks..
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      Reply #4665: Feb 11, 2019 09:28:11 pm
      One of my favourite liveries has gone with Williams announcing their new car today.



      Yeah I loved that livery too. It was the sort of livery that could have been put on any f1 car during the 70s and 80s such is it's iconic/classic feel. I would have preferred if the new colour scheme had gone outright sky blue rather than fading to white. The grid has missed a bit of sky blue ever since the days Benetton/Renault parted ways with its Mild Seven livery - one of my favourite colour schemes ever.

      Can't really judge the new Haas colour at the moment. The classic JP Special Lotus colours of black and gold definitely hits the right mark in the classic/retro look but unless Renault go all out yellow (which I wish they would) then I can see an uncomfortable clash of colours on the grid. Too many dull/dark/grey on the grid in recent years for my liking.
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      Reply #4666: Feb 11, 2019 09:48:27 pm
      Yeah I loved that livery too. It was the sort of livery that could have been put on any f1 car during the 70s and 80s such is it's iconic/classic feel. I would have preferred if the new colour scheme had gone outright sky blue rather than fading to white. The grid has missed a bit of sky blue ever since the days Benetton/Renault parted ways with its Mild Seven livery - one of my favourite colour schemes ever.

      Can't really judge the new Haas colour at the moment. The classic JP Special Lotus colours of black and gold definitely hits the right mark in the classic/retro look but unless Renault go all out yellow (which I wish they would) then I can see an uncomfortable clash of colours on the grid. Too many dull/dark/grey on the grid in recent years for my liking.

      Yea, would love Renault to go all yellow but think they'll stay similar to last season.

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      Reply #4667: Feb 12, 2019 01:50:52 am
      Not feeling it... shame. But I do love the Haas... 👍🏼

      I could have done better than the Williams and HAAS in 5 minutes.

      Not mad on the HAAS. Wait until you see some of the normal angles.
      The gold is too dark on it and it just looks like a plain black car with stickers thrown on it.
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      Reply #4668: Feb 12, 2019 12:13:14 pm
      The Renault is a much better looking 'black' car than the Haas for me.
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      Reply #4669: Feb 12, 2019 12:26:31 pm
      The Renault is a much better looking 'black' car than the Haas for me.

      The yellow accent looks much better.
      No real change this year.
      I like the cleaner front wing and they've gone the same way as Williams and copied the "Ferrari" raised sidepod inlets.
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      Reply #4670: Feb 12, 2019 12:49:42 pm
      We grew up with the likes of BBC providing free coverage.
      Little did we realise it was a golden era.

      Was it the golden era, or was it introducing us to car racing, having it for 'free' was great, you could follow the season with ease, advertisers got free advertising, tobacco included, brands were well known, and the liveries, some of the best ever were iconic, as they were based on the brand.
      Now with pay TV, and a more global based sport, the TV companies want a closed shop, If you can't pay, you won't see the race.
      advertisers are paying for what, for a very small band off followers in the UK, I don't know what the rest of the world is like, but I suspect in the near future, there will not be the following F1 has now in the UK. More than half of the brands advertising I have never heard of.

      The Americans are very savvy, hopfully profits and interest will fall, and they will make it available to all again, look at Cricket, who cares any more? I don't even know when the last Ashes were, and who won, a guess it was Australia, 50/50 chance of being right.

      Golden era then for viewers, I guess yes, but now it's the money makers golden era.
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      Reply #4671: Feb 12, 2019 12:52:36 pm
      Williams: Who or what are Rokit??


      Toro Rosso:


      Renault:


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      Reply #4672: Feb 12, 2019 01:06:38 pm
      The yellow accent looks much better.
      No real change this year.
      I like the cleaner front wing and they've gone the same way as Williams and copied the "Ferrari" raised sidepod inlets.

      Yea, both the Renault  and Torro Rosso pretty much identical to last season which isn't such a bad thing as both for me we're two of the better looking cars.
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      Reply #4673: Feb 12, 2019 01:09:08 pm
      Williams: Who or what are Rokit??


      Toro Rosso:


      Renault:


      Haas:


      STR & Renault easily the best so far, even with the same liveries.

      Rokit are a Telecoms company.
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      Reply #4674: Feb 12, 2019 01:31:35 pm
      I read Claire Williams talking about a bold decision to change colours but isn't that just more due to them losing Martini as a title sponsor or have I got that wrong?
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      Reply #4675: Feb 12, 2019 06:41:02 pm
      Definitely Renault's strongest driving partnership since the days of Alonso and Fisichella. With Ricciardo leading the way and Hulk as an excellent second driver then they can only go up from here surely. Long term it will be fascinating to see if they can force their way back to the front.
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      Reply #4676: Feb 12, 2019 07:13:47 pm
      Definitely Renault's strongest driving partnership since the days of Alonso and Fisichella. With Ricciardo leading the way and Hulk as an excellent second driver then they can only go up from here surely. Long term it will be fascinating to see if they can force their way back to the front.

      Red Bull could be under pressure if Honda doesn’t deliver
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      Reply #4677: Feb 12, 2019 07:23:03 pm
      Red Bull could be under pressure if Honda doesn’t deliver

      Very good point! Completely forgot about the Honda switch by Red Bull. Honda proved they weren't as bad as people made them out to be when they were in the back of the Toro Rosso's last season but I can't help but think people were all of a sudden overhyping them because they were going to be Red Bull's partners this year. All that overhype, admittedly, comes from Christian Horner who is the master at bigging up things in his textbook clean orporate speak. But it would be wonderful if they got usurped by Renault soon.

      But then again, I've never been Red Bull's biggest fan - too much of a 'presentation' and 'sheen' to them, even going as far to plastering their drivers helmets with the Red Bull logo to the point where who is driving which car becomes indistinguisable (in general the helmet art game is utterly atrocious these days but they are the worst offenders). For sure, this is the way F1 has gone in the last 20 years or so, especially with the gradual disappearance of the piranha club, but it still irks me the way Red Bull go about their business.
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      Reply #4678: Feb 12, 2019 07:38:45 pm
      Renault looking nice..

      Any chance Ferrari adopting the yellow & break from the red?.. 🤪
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      Reply #4679: Feb 12, 2019 08:26:15 pm
      Renault looking nice..

      Any chance Ferrari adopting the yellow & break from the red?.. 🤪

      I'd be seriously worried about Ferrari's long term future in the sport if they ever did that! Would be cool to see them try it out for a testing livery maybe once but I'm with the Ferrari conservatives on this one. Ferrari red all the way!

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