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      Reply #4700: Feb 15, 2019 09:25:29 pm
      Sh*t,you've just reminded me of that RP.

      Highlights for me as well then.

      Internet streaming for me.

      The thought of paying £40 a month for Sky (just to watch 2 races, the quality of which is never guaranteed in f1) is a desperate situation. It's sad to see people like Martin Brundle milking it on Sky now and promoting their grubby work all for a few hundred thousand viewers when back in the day he was broadcasting to millions upon millions of us is sad.

      It arguably stops becoming a mainstream sport just like Sky did for cricket.
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      Reply #4701: Feb 15, 2019 10:08:18 pm

      Sky's PPV. We're on about free to air.
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      Reply #4702: Feb 16, 2019 12:05:19 am
      Well, as F1 is now fully on PPV apart from the British GP, sadly I don't really care. I may watch the highlights.

      But seriously, I think this will depend on who can bend the rules long enough before getting caught. Mercedes seem to be very good at this, and catching others.

      Mercedes bent the rules long enough last season to leap frog Ferrari,
      and then the pressure on Ferrari did the rest.
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      Reply #4703: Feb 17, 2019 12:55:27 pm
      Quote from Frankly, Mr Shankly
      Internet streaming for me.

      The thought of paying £40 a month for Sky (just to watch 2 races, the quality of which is never guaranteed in f1) is a desperate situation. It's sad to see people like Martin Brundle milking it on Sky now and promoting their grubby work all for a few hundred thousand viewers when back in the day he was broadcasting to millions upon millions of us is sad.

      It arguably stops becoming a mainstream sport just like Sky did for cricket.

      I believe that 3 live races per season have to be made available on their non ppv channels. 1 of them will probably be their home race, because it's also available on another network.

      These days you get comprehensive coverage of every race weekend of the season, and live interactive services that save you having to listen to Croft. For the next 2 weeks, they cover every test live. Before they arrived, you would get the qualifying session and the race live, with commercial breaks missing the key moments, and then off air asap. There would be no coverage of practice sessions, testing, or anything else. People complain about having to pay a bit for it, but they get what they pay for.
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      Reply #4704: Feb 17, 2019 09:09:00 pm
      I believe that 3 live races per season have to be made available on their non ppv channels. 1 of them will probably be their home race, because it's also available on another network.

      These days you get comprehensive coverage of every race weekend of the season, and live interactive services that save you having to listen to Croft. For the next 2 weeks, they cover every test live. Before they arrived, you would get the qualifying session and the race live, with commercial breaks missing the key moments, and then off air asap. There would be no coverage of practice sessions, testing, or anything else. People complain about having to pay a bit for it, but they get what they pay for.

      We got everything free (all practice sessions, quali, race) on the BBC with no ad breaks.

      You're quite frankly an idiot if you're paying that money for 20 odd races a year.
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      Reply #4705: Feb 17, 2019 09:43:43 pm
      I believe that 3 live races per season have to be made available on their non ppv channels. 1 of them will probably be their home race, because it's also available on another network.

      These days you get comprehensive coverage of every race weekend of the season, and live interactive services that save you having to listen to Croft. For the next 2 weeks, they cover every test live. Before they arrived, you would get the qualifying session and the race live, with commercial breaks missing the key moments, and then off air asap. There would be no coverage of practice sessions, testing, or anything else. People complain about having to pay a bit for it, but they get what they pay for.

      We got everything free (all practice sessions, quali, race) on the BBC with no ad breaks.

      You're quite frankly an idiot if you're paying that money for 20 odd races a year.

      I want VAR ruling   :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #4706: Feb 18, 2019 06:20:08 pm
      Quote from Frankly, Mr Shankly
      We got everything free (all practice sessions, quali, race) on the BBC with no ad breaks.

      You're quite frankly an idiot if you're paying that money for 20 odd races a year.

      Except you're not paying it for just 20 odd races a year. You're getting F1 coverage every day of the year, and all the support races/categories live, (along with all the other sports they cover) That's how Leclerc and Norris and Russell to name a few, got their foot into F1. It's thorough and comprehensive coverage, and compared to what was available before they got the rights, it's the difference between night and day.
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      Reply #4707: Feb 18, 2019 06:21:08 pm
      Except you're not paying it for just 20 odd races a year. You're getting F1 coverage every day of the year, and all the support races/categories live, (along with all the other sports they cover) That's how Leclerc and Norris and Russell to name a few, got their foot into F1. It's thorough and comprehensive coverage, and compared to what was available before they got the rights, it's the difference between night and day.

      That may well be but some of us simply can't justify the extra cost mate even if you get that comprehensive coverage.

      I love F1 and motorsport in general but simply cannot justify paying to watch it with all the other expenses we have in the house.

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      Reply #4708: Feb 18, 2019 07:12:35 pm

      If there’s one word McLaren shouldn’t be using, it’s “Contender”, I’m expecting another pathetic season from them, only difference now is that they won’t have Alonso getting them semi respectable finishes.
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      Reply #4709: Feb 18, 2019 07:26:53 pm
      If there’s one word McLaren shouldn’t be using, it’s “Contender”, I’m expecting another pathetic season from them, only difference now is that they won’t have Alonso getting them semi respectable finishes.

      Yea, if that car hasn't improved massively on last year McLaren are going to struggle I feel.
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      Reply #4710: Feb 18, 2019 07:39:01 pm
      Williams having no car until Wednesday it seems.

      You have to wonder what they do all winter as it's not as if testing is a surpise announcement.

      So sad to see such a great team of the past in this mess.
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      Reply #4711: Feb 18, 2019 08:50:55 pm
      Williams having no car until Wednesday it seems.

      You have to wonder what they do all winter as it's not as if testing is a surpise announcement.

      So sad to see such a great team of the past in this mess.

      So true. I don't have much hopes for them this season and I struggle to see where their next break will come from. At the start of the hybrid era in 2014, they were blessed to have the Mercedes and a solid chassis to make them a front running team once again. That was wonderful to see. But their decline since, despite still enjoying the benefits that the Merc engine has provided, has been alarming and last year was a depressing sight. Seeing them trailing at the arse end of the grid with two pay drivers (many people would say undeserving of their place in the sport) made such a placement on the grid unsurprising and, dare I say it, deserved.

      On the driver front, I'd be astonished if the return of Kubica didn't turn out to be a total damp squib. That said, I have high hopes for George Russell, he looks to be a fine young talent and I back him to outdo Kubica this season. Likewise with Lando Norris in McLaren who despite a somewhat disappointing GP2 (even though he finished runner up to Russell in GP2) had had a pretty meteoric rise thanks to his skill. Although at age 18 I fear that it may have come a little too quickly for the guy.

      That will be the most fascinating aspect of this season for me. Britain is blessed to have two phenomenal young drivers in the f1 ranks this year and if they do well then the post Lewis era may not be too bad for British fans.
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      Reply #4712: Feb 20, 2019 11:34:24 am
      The Ferrari seems to have an aggressive change of pitch under breaking, snapping from low pitch to high rake.
      I wonder will we see a protest arrive before the season starts.
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      Reply #4713: Feb 21, 2019 06:34:54 pm
      The Ferrari seems to have an aggressive change of pitch under breaking, snapping from low pitch to high rake.
      I wonder will we see a protest arrive before the season starts.

      What do you think is going on?

      Do Mercedes still have a low rake car like last year?
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      Reply #4714: Feb 21, 2019 10:27:22 pm
      What do you think is going on?

      Do Mercedes still have a low rake car like last year?

      Mercedes have the same low rake as previous cars.
      Could be something in the hydraulics but it would need to be passive.
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      Reply #4715: Feb 21, 2019 10:29:38 pm
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      Reply #4716: Mar 01, 2019 06:43:20 pm
      There goes another pre season and it has to be said Ferrari look the business. Potentially, the fastest they've been since the glory days of Schumacher in the early 00s. Mercedes have got their work cut out!

      Looks like McLaren have made some respectable progress as well - best pre season for them for a good few years (or should that be most drama free!). Don't know about them edging Fernando closer to the fold. The announcement that he is pencilled in to do some test days with them is great news for all who are fans of the guy but potentially bad news for young Lando Norris who may feel unnecessary pressure knowing that Alonso is sitting in the wings.
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      Reply #4717: Mar 01, 2019 09:10:06 pm
      There goes another pre season and it has to be said Ferrari look the business. Potentially, the fastest they've been since the glory days of Schumacher in the early 00s. Mercedes have got their work cut out!


      I honestly thought Mercedes were sand bagging but not convinced anymore. The red car ( as hammy puts it )) looking exceptional so far.
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      Reply #4718: Mar 01, 2019 09:31:39 pm
      I honestly thought Mercedes were sand bagging but not convinced anymore. The red car ( as hammy puts it )) looking exceptional so far.

      Fastest Ferrari in a long time.
      Game on.

      Pressure on Seb could be twofold though. Leclerc is bloody fast.

      Red Bull not finished strongly.
      Midfield battle will be huge.
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      Reply #4719: Mar 01, 2019 10:06:15 pm
      Think Merc  know how to develop a Car throughout a season and they will be difficult to beat especially if Hamilton gets inside Vettel's head again. I hope we see McClaren and Williams back up the grid its been painful to watch these past few years
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      Reply #4720: Mar 06, 2019 10:04:10 pm
      Had high hopes for Williams fortunes when it was announced that Paddy Lowe was joining them. But it's turned out to be a f**king disaster. You've seriously got to question Claire Williams's management of the team. I do worry for their future in this sport.

      https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1103405923668762624

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      Reply #4721: Mar 06, 2019 10:24:17 pm
      Had high hopes for Williams fortunes when it was announced that Paddy Lowe was joining them. But it's turned out to be a f**king disaster. You've seriously got to question Claire Williams's management of the team. I do worry for their future in this sport.

      https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1103405923668762624



      The team is in a total mess.
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      Reply #4722: Mar 06, 2019 10:55:47 pm
      Sad to see such an iconic team fall away.
      Thought they were going to really challenge in the Hybrid era but they've become a technology company first and F1 team second.
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      Reply #4723: Mar 08, 2019 06:46:17 pm
      Interesting perspective on the failings at Williams.

      https://twitter.com/PeterDWindsor/status/1103731292217241603
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      Reply #4724: Mar 08, 2019 09:31:54 pm
      What do we think of the extra point for fastest lap then folks?

      I think I like the idea.

      Off to watch some of 'Formula 1 Drive To Survive' on Netflix.

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