Billy I must take you to task over my hero Billy Liddell,he did win a first division league champions medal in 1947.I agree with the rest of your post.
Says on lfc.tv that he didn't win anything with us mate. I'm sure he was at the club when we won the league in 47, but maybe he didn't pick up a winners medal or maybe lfc.tv has got it totally wrong.
Dont try absurd comments to prove a point its disrespectful and I thought more of you and your knowledge of Liverpool. Clemence won 3 European Cups 5 league titles 2 Eufa cups 1 FA cup and 1 league cup. He also let in 16 goals in a 42 game season.If that dosent make him our best ever goal keeper then I dont know what he would have had to do to be classed as our no.1. Iv'e seen all our Goalies since Tommy Lawrence and Clemence was virtually unbeatable at times and his shot stopping out of this world. Pepe is still young and is making a name for him self quite rightly but he will have to do a lot more to be considered above Clemence.
If you take the time to read the opening post you'll see I've said Clemence is the best we've had. Not because of what he won however because that means absolutely nothing. As I've said some legends in our history have no trophies, it doesn't make them any less of a player in terms of quality and doesn't make them any less a player than those who have won something - how is that absurd? Maybe because it's spot on that just because Clemo has won more than Pepe doesn't make him a better keeper. His ability in goal makes him the better keeper in my opinion.
Seen videos of Clemence playing, I thought in terms of commanding the area and the defence he was boss at doing it. I think he is the best of the best Liverpool has seen, but Reina is coming behind, real quick. Reina is catching him up and at the rate that he is going, he might go down as the best Liverpool keeper ever, better than Clemence, but Reina is helped by the fact that we've got a rock in front of him that is unbeatable - Jamie Carra.
Dudek deserves special mention as well, I thought that he was the hero in Istanbul and I will never forget his double save, his wobbly legs as well. He was one of the most eccentric keepers but when it was time to be serious he was.. And his shot stopping was amazing.
Firstly mate I think you'll find Clemo had a better defence in front of him which helped him throughout his Liverpool career. He was lucky enough to play behind some of the best defenders this club has ever seen, the only "legends" Pepe has played behind is Carra and Sami. If I remember rightly is was Clemence who said we'd had a bad game if he got to touch the ball or something along those lines. That proved how water tight we were in the late 60s right through the 70s while Clemo was our number one.
As for the Dudek thing, well maybe it's just me but I thought for the majority of the game in Istanbul he was his usual dodgy self. A few balls came in that he flapped at, there the cross that came in from their right which he couldn't catch and it ended up hitting the post. Even the penalties shouldn't have stood since he was closer to the half way line than the goal line by the time the Milan player hit the ball. The first of the double save wasn't great because he palmed it straight back into the path of Shevchenko. And the second was instict, fantastic save but Jerzy himself admitted he knew nothing about it. There's only three good saves I can remember that night from Jerzy, all from Shevchenko. First is that second stop, whether he knew nothing about it or not it was fantastic. Secondly is the pen save that won us the game, he was close to his line on that one unlike Pirlo's and finally the one from Shevchenko's free kick at the start of the second half.
Jerzy's best moment in a Liverpool shirt was the 03 League Cup final. He was rightly named man of the match for that game because he saved us a fair bit that night in Cardiff. But even that and the "heroics" in Istanbul wouldn't make me consider him anywhere near our best keeper in the last ten years never mind our history.
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