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      Rafa La Bamba
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      Apr 01, 2007 02:07:36 pm
      Well every year we sell a few players here is my list for who should go.

      Bellamy - Don't like his attitude, it stinks and he can't finish either

      Zenden - Simply not LFC class, now we got Masch we don't need that player. Got nothing against him tho nice bloke.

      Fowler - He's not had much of a chance this season so whats the chance he'll stay next season? about 0.1% sorry to see go.

      Hyypia - Maybe his age is against him just like Zenden's and Robbie's and he is not going to boot Dan Agger do do do out!

      Dudek - Even though he kept us in the CL final in May that does not mean he should stay. He cost us the FA Cup aswell.

      Kewell - I thought we should give this player a chance but I realistically think he will always be injured and will take time for him

      Luis Garcia - You won't agree with me on this one but he is as frustrating as Riise, he would not fit our plans, we can find a better replacement

      These 7 players don't really play much in our plans anymore, I would hate to see half of them go but really they are not our standards if we want to win the League next season.

      I just hope we don't have an over-crowding squad next season and there is more quality than quantity. Masch & Arbeloa are the best Jan signings I've seen Rafa make. Even Agger was a great Jan signing! The future is very bright don't listen to what these Mancs and Chavs have to say about us!
      « Last Edit: Apr 01, 2007 02:08:28 pm by Ra Ra Rafa »
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      Reply #1: Apr 01, 2007 02:22:14 pm
      you wrong about kewell mate...once he gets back well see the red kangaroo get inbehind defenders and gettign those quality crosses to crouchys head..which has been lacking this season.cant wait for him to get back...i also think aurelio might go back to spain.
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      Reply #2: Apr 01, 2007 02:44:49 pm
      you wrong about kewell mate...once he gets back well see the red kangaroo get inbehind defenders and gettign those quality crosses to crouchys head..which has been lacking this season.cant wait for him to get back...I also think aurelio might go back to spain.

      What? Do you even watch Liverpool play? I was saying lets keep Kewell with my Heart but really i know he is a nothing player compared to our other players now. Aurelio is our best left player mate whats wrong with you?
      Next season Aurelio will be our left back watch this space ;)
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      Reply #3: Apr 01, 2007 09:36:17 pm
      Well every year we sell a few players here is my list for who should go.

      Bellamy - Don't like his attitude, it stinks and he can't finish either

      Zenden - Simply not LFC class, now we got Masch we don't need that player. Got nothing against him tho nice bloke.

      Fowler - He's not had much of a chance this season so whats the chance he'll stay next season? about 0.1% sorry to see go.

      Hyypia - Maybe his age is against him just like Zenden's and Robbie's and he is not going to boot Dan Agger do do do out!

      Dudek - Even though he kept us in the CL final in May that does not mean he should stay. He cost us the FA Cup aswell.

      Kewell - I thought we should give this player a chance but I realistically think he will always be injured and will take time for him

      Luis Garcia - You won't agree with me on this one but he is as frustrating as Riise, he would not fit our plans, we can find a better replacement

      These 7 players don't really play much in our plans anymore, I would hate to see half of them go but really they are not our standards if we want to win the League next season.

      I just hope we don't have an over-crowding squad next season and there is more quality than quantity. Masch & Arbeloa are the best Jan signings I've seen Rafa make. Even Agger was a great Jan signing! The future is very bright don't listen to what these Mancs and Chavs have to say about us!

      Agree with all of them apart from Hypiia, if a CB gets croked then we would have no cover and he is still a good player even though he is getting on a bit now.
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      Reply #4: Apr 01, 2007 09:52:48 pm
      Agree with all of them apart from Hypiia, if a CB gets croked then we would have no cover and he is still a good player even though he is getting on a bit now.

      agreed, but thats only if we don't get replacement for him. He could be our next Ayala who plays for top club until 37 like ;D
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      Reply #5: Apr 01, 2007 09:57:10 pm
      agreed, but thats only if we don't get replacement for him. He could be our next Ayala who plays for top club until 37 like ;D

      If Hyypia's been happy spending most of this season as cover then I'd say we keep him for another year. 

      Paletta is out on loan (I forget where at the moment) and hopefully he'll come back next season a better player. 

      Out of the other players mentioned, I would like us to keep Garcia.  I know he can be frustrating at times but he's one of those unpredictable players that every club needs and can always provide something different and win matches.
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      Reply #6: Apr 01, 2007 10:13:15 pm
      If we are to keep Garcia then he has to accpet the bench on all big games and should only be a sub at the most. Good player just one that won't suit this league.
      He is quality in the CL though so maybe only just keep him as a sub
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      Reply #7: Apr 01, 2007 10:16:32 pm
      I think we can still use Kewell and i definately dont want to see Garcia go,he scores impotant goals for us both domestically and in cup competitions.I think with benitez's rotation, we will avoid any overcrowding in the squad.
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      Reply #8: Apr 01, 2007 10:23:17 pm
      Really out of that list if we had to keep 2 then only Garcia & Hyypia! Sorry but there is no space for Kewell, Dudek, Bellamy, Zenden & Fowler. Just no room what so ever sorry :(
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      Reply #9: Apr 02, 2007 12:11:12 am
      Fowler, zenden, kewell and dudek they must go and come new and young players like ustari, belluschi, mauro zarate,alexandre pato, marc crossas etc, a bet for the future
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      Reply #10: Apr 02, 2007 12:31:39 am
      If I was Rafa....

      Seen enough - To leave Anfield this summer...

      Dudek - consistent keeper - consistently dodgy
      Fowler - too much competition for the old boy
      Crouch - nice hat-trick but not going to land us a title
      Bellamy - not prolific enough
      Pennant - out of his depth
      Kewell - if anyone will have him
      Sissoko - could provide some valuable back at Anfield. Mascherano similar player but with better distribution
      Garcia - not been missed while injured. Goes missing too many times.  Needs to be replaced however.
      Zenden.

      Last chance saloon - another season

      Gonzalez - new country, young lad, flashes of brilliance - one more season
      Hyypia - almost replaced by Agger - needed for central defensive cover
      Riise - neither a world class left back or world class left midfielder - but until he is replaced provides us with options, for sure
      Kuyt - we want some more goals next year Dirky

      « Last Edit: Apr 02, 2007 12:33:26 am by Jabba »
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      Reply #11: Apr 02, 2007 01:38:32 am
      If I was Rafa....

      Seen enough - To leave Anfield this summer...

      Dudek - consistent keeper - consistently dodgy
      Fowler - too much competition for the old boy
      Crouch - nice hat-trick but not going to land us a title
      Bellamy - not prolific enough
      Pennant - out of his depth
      Kewell - if anyone will have him
      Sissoko - could provide some valuable back at Anfield. Mascherano similar player but with better distribution
      Garcia - not been missed while injured. Goes missing too many times.  Needs to be replaced however.
      Zenden.

      Last chance saloon - another season

      Gonzalez - new country, young lad, flashes of brilliance - one more season
      Hyypia - almost replaced by Agger - needed for central defensive cover
      Riise - neither a world class left back or world class left midfielder - but until he is replaced provides us with options, for sure
      Kuyt - we want some more goals next year Dirky



      90% agreed, Pennant is far better than the ones you said give another season to. Remeber Pennant is also a young lad. Why does everyone jump on the bandwagon about Pennant? Without Pennant Gerrard plays right and we have no width or pace down that right side. keep it Arbeloa and Pennant on the right with Aurelio & Gonzo on the left. Players need time to settle in when at a new club i can't belive people want them to start off like lightning because that won't happen, remember Pires, Henry at Arsenal with their first season? Ljundgberg had a horror season at the start and then he was Prem's best player by a mile
      « Last Edit: Apr 02, 2007 01:43:12 am by Ra Ra Rafa »
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      Reply #12: Apr 02, 2007 02:37:16 am
      kewell stays, crouch stays...risse zenden go, fowler becomes assistant manager I play central mid behind stevie. deal?
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      Reply #13: Apr 02, 2007 12:05:27 pm
      If I was Rafa....

      Seen enough - To leave Anfield this summer...

      Dudek - consistent keeper - consistently dodgy
      Fowler - too much competition for the old boy
      Crouch - nice hat-trick but not going to land us a title
      Bellamy - not prolific enough
      Pennant - out of his depth
      Kewell - if anyone will have him
      Sissoko - could provide some valuable back at Anfield. Mascherano similar player but with better distribution
      Garcia - not been missed while injured. Goes missing too many times.  Needs to be replaced however.
      Zenden.

      Last chance saloon - another season

      Gonzalez - new country, young lad, flashes of brilliance - one more season
      Hyypia - almost replaced by Agger - needed for central defensive cover
      Riise - neither a world class left back or world class left midfielder - but until he is replaced provides us with options, for sure
      Kuyt - we want some more goals next year Dirky



      Blimey Jabba, I'm glad you're not my boss! I'd be sacked in days!

      Seriously though, I'd say that's a few too many changes to be making in one season. I agree with your sentiments regarding most of them, but wouldn't say they're reasons a lot of them should go, rather reasons they should only be squad players.

      We're never gonna be Sh!tski, with two quality players for each position. Rather we need to focus on getting quality first teamers, and keeping the players on board that aren't world class but who we can 'make do' with if the first choice isn't playing. The players I would expect to go are:

      Dudek - Carson will come back next season, and we will probably sign Padelli permanantly as well. No need for him.

      Fowler - Unfortunately hasn't looked after his body as well as others in the game. Won't be up to playing 90 minutes, so needs to go for me.

      Zenden - If anyone thinks he should stay, I would ask you to PM me with all your credit card details, you are obviously that stupid you would do it.

      Kewell - I don't care how good he is when he's fit, he never is fit. Simple as.

      The other players that have been mantioned, Hyypia, Riise, Garcia, Crouch, Bellamy & Pennant, are all good enough to be squad players IMO, but none of them should be first choice in their positions. Hyypia, Garcia & Crouch aren't first choices already, but the introduction of Aurelio at LB, and if we buy a new right winger & striker, would see a large reduction in the number of games the others play next season.
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      Reply #14: Apr 02, 2007 12:35:05 pm

      Zenden - If anyone thinks he should stay, I would ask you to PM me with all your credit card details, you are obviously that stupid you would do it.



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      Reply #15: Apr 02, 2007 03:17:35 pm
      If I was Rafa....

      Seen enough - To leave Anfield this summer...

      Dudek - consistent keeper - consistently dodgy
      Fowler - too much competition for the old boy
      Crouch - nice hat-trick but not going to land us a title
      Bellamy - not prolific enough
      Pennant - out of his depth
      Kewell - if anyone will have him
      Sissoko - could provide some valuable back at Anfield. Mascherano similar player but with better distribution
      Garcia - not been missed while injured. Goes missing too many times.  Needs to be replaced however.
      Zenden.

      Last chance saloon - another season

      Gonzalez - new country, young lad, flashes of brilliance - one more season
      Hyypia - almost replaced by Agger - needed for central defensive cover
      Riise - neither a world class left back or world class left midfielder - but until he is replaced provides us with options, for sure
      Kuyt - we want some more goals next year Dirky



      ?? very strange....Sissoko to go, no chance and your stupid to evan say that!!! Sissoko is class..............

      alot of people seem to think the masch deal is done and dusted but bearin in mind we have only got him on loan selling sissoko would be suicide.........


      Garcia?? if he's not been missed why do you want a replacement!!????

      IMO we have missed Luis and we've missed Kewell even more, I understand why most people want these to go but for me we must keep them BOTH!!!!

      Kewell is Gonna be a massive player for us next season.................

      and no i'm not crazy!!!!

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      Reply #16: Apr 02, 2007 04:32:19 pm
      Players for the Chop.

      1.Dudek – Inspires all the confidence of a one-armed man juggling hand grenades.
      2.Zenden – Has lovely hair but that’s not a good enough reason to keep him.
      3.Fowler – So sad to include Robbie but for reasons we have discussed its time for goodbye
      4.Bellamy – Needs to improve on his back swing with a nine iron, he just doesn’t offer us much, okay so he’s pacy but its no good being quick if you cant do anything when you get there I know he can cross a ball but I would rather he was scoring.

      They are my definites, there are also a couple on dodgy ground for me and need to be a bit more consistent or they to could be sold.

      These on the other hand are players who I think we shouldn’t jump the gun with and get rid of them before they have started, or they could even be handy tactically.

      1.Gonzalez – We have had flashes of what he could do and I think with a bit more confidence and experience we might yet have a half decent winger.
      2.Kuyt – Way too much was expected because of his exploits in the Dutch league? But he is not a goal machine I think he is a target man and a workhorse similar to a Sherringham type of player, all we need is a Shearer type to play alongside him.
      3.Crouch – I don’t know what to make of him, just when you think he’s not good enough he knocks a hat trick in, that on its own though doesn’t hide the fact that he is way to inconsistent and has a head on him like a fifty pence piece. All I think Crouch could be is an alternative to be used to suit tactics and to bring on if we are in trouble.
      4.Kewell – Showed a bit of form towards the end of last season so maybe have one last look at him, but the second he gets injured either sell him or shoot him!
      5.Pennant – I don’t think he would last if we bought a bit of class for the wing, but once again on Saturday I thought he turned in a half decent performance, the problem is he has a good game then turns in a few indifferent performances if we could get him some consistency lessons we could have a decent squad player.

      Those are just a few off the top of my head and in the case of Kewell and Pennant I have done a complete u-turn on there futures, in Kewells case I think I would just like to see if he can put a consistent run together and in Pennant’s its because the president of his fan club Ra Ra Rafa has persuaded me to wait and see as he swears he’s Rivaldo’s love child, Pennant that is not Ra Ra Rafa.
      « Last Edit: Apr 02, 2007 04:35:57 pm by Glenbuck »
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      Reply #17: Apr 02, 2007 05:59:36 pm
      just read that Liverpool have turned down a 7 million pounds bit for Bellamy from Aston Villa...
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      Reply #18: Apr 02, 2007 06:08:36 pm
      just read that Liverpool have turned down a 7 million pounds bit for Bellamy from Aston Villa...

      Stupid who ever turned that offer down!
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      Reply #19: Apr 02, 2007 06:58:11 pm
      If I was Rafa....

      Garcia - not been missed while injured.





      must be joking
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      Reply #20: Apr 02, 2007 07:20:48 pm
      We do not need wholesale changes as to much disruption causes the start of the season to be a waste of time.
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      Reply #21: Apr 03, 2007 09:38:27 am
      Hey mates, you're selling ten players at least, are you sure G&K will put their hands on pocket to buy a Defender Central, two wingers, a central midfielder (Momo goes ?) and two strikers? I hope yes but I don't believe it.
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      Reply #22: Apr 03, 2007 10:30:45 am
      Stupid who ever turned that offer down!
      He was also told he has a future at the club....

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