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      What do these people do?
      : Sep 22, 2009 05:19:08 pm »
      Just been reading the official weekly mag thing and came across a list of people, but what do they do? (I'd like a proper answer rather than the predictable "f**k the club up")

      Co-chairmen
      G.N. Gillett Jnr
      T.O. Hicks

      Directors
      F.L. Gillett
      T.O. Hicks Jnr

      Managing Director
      C.M.C. Purslow

      Group Chief Financial Officer
      P. Nash

      Commercial Director
      I. Ayre

      Team Manager
      Rafael Benitez

      Hon. Life President
      D.R. Moores

      Hon. Life Vice Presidents
      T.D. Smith
      K.E.B Clayton FCA
      J.D. Burns
      J.H. Cresswell ACA

      So can anybody shed light on what these people do for the club?
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #1 : Sep 22, 2009 05:24:30 pm »
      Team Manager
      Rafael Benitez
      So can anybody shed light on what these people do for the club?

      Have you met our manager? ;)
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #2 : Sep 22, 2009 05:26:20 pm »
      I think Rafa's the lad who sorts the team out and does the tactics and stuff like that.

      Not sure though.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #3 : Sep 22, 2009 05:27:10 pm »

      Yes, and he was as confused as I am. ;)
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      Reply #4 : Sep 22, 2009 05:29:31 pm »
      It's highly understandable given the pricks who're running the whole show.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #5 : Sep 22, 2009 05:42:18 pm »
      Seriously DLS,its a very good question.Apart from Rafa what do the others do?Who can answer these questions cos I for one would like to know.  ???
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #6 : Sep 22, 2009 05:45:41 pm »
      I didn't even know we had half that lot.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #7 : Sep 22, 2009 05:52:16 pm »
      Dunno DLS.

      ..but there are some REAL people at the club

      Manager Rafael Benitez
      Assistant Manager  Sammy Lee

      Coaching Staff

      Alex Miller - First Team Coach
      Gary Ablett - Reserve Team Manager
      Angel Vales - Reserve Coach and Head of Technical Analysis
      Xavi Valero - Goalkeeping Coach
      Mark Waller - Club Doctor
      Eduardo Macia - Chief Scout
      Mike McGlynn - Assistant Chief Scout
      Rob Price - Senior Physiotherapist
      Louise Fawcett - Physiotherapist
      Victor Salinas - Physiotherapist
      Chris Morgan - Physiotherapist
      Paco De Miguel - Fitness Coach
      Antonio Gomez - Fitness Coach
      Paul Small - Masseur
      Graham Carter - Kit Manager
      John Wright - Kit Man
      Dave McDonough - Technical Analyst



      still dont know about that first lot.

      Think that Moores man did some naughty stuff with some Yankees.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #8 : Sep 22, 2009 07:17:31 pm »
      Gary Ablett is no longer the reserve team manager though.He has been replaced by John McMahon
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      Reply #9 : Sep 22, 2009 07:19:03 pm »
      And Alex Miller went time ago.
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      Reply #10 : Sep 22, 2009 08:06:09 pm »
      ....well thats my source of info f.......ed then!
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #11 : Sep 22, 2009 10:25:07 pm »
      Just been reading the official weekly mag thing and came across a list of people, but what do they do?

      Directors
      F.L. Gillett

      So can anybody shed light on what these people do for the club?

      Helped do the deal that brought Lucas to Liverpool!!
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      Reply #12 : Sep 22, 2009 10:26:46 pm »
      I'm jealous of Louise Fawcett  ;)
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #13 : Sep 23, 2009 08:48:15 pm »
      I always thought Ayre was in charge of the commercial (Aren't I good for figuring that out!!)  side of things and getting our name recognized and basically sponsorship deals etc. And all we ever hear about Purslow is that he is a go-to man for Rafa when he wants something from the owners, but surely he does more than being a middle man?

      But I really do think them honorary presidents and vice presidents do nothing!!
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      Reply #14 : Sep 24, 2009 10:11:17 am »
      I think Purslow is like a 'personal accountant' for Rafa.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #15 : Sep 24, 2009 10:20:53 am »
      I think Purslow is like a 'personal accountant' for Rafa.

      Noooo way.

      He's in the Parry-role. Except it has a different name.
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      Reply #16 : Sep 24, 2009 10:26:17 am »
      Noooo way.

      He's in the Parry-role. Except it has a different name.

      Wasn't Purslow yapping on about him and Rafa talk about funds constantly and whatever Rafa needs they discuss it together? I might have missed something there.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #17 : Sep 24, 2009 10:30:07 am »

      Co-chairmen
      G.N. Gillett Jnr - Owners
      T.O. Hicks - Owners

      Ownership of the club, as Chairmen they have overriding power over the strategic (being long term) running of the club.

      Directors
      F.L. Gillett - Director
      T.O. Hicks Jnr - Director

      Now depending on them being executive or non executive they either have a say in the running of the business (executive) or they give advice on decisions to be made (non-executive). I would have thought they'd be the latter.

      Managing Director
      C.M.C. Purslow - MD

      Oversees the day to day running of the business, carrying direct responsibility for Rafa, the team, background staff, everyone basically. Also sits on the board of directors, thus meaning he airs the views of the people he manages i.e. Rafa.

      Group Chief Financial Officer - CFO
      P. Nash

      Fincancial Officer / Financial Director -probably a qualified accountant too at this level, basically manages the books, recording all income and expenditure and managing financial risk.

      Commercial Director -Sales/Marketing
      I. Ayre

      A salesman essentially, he would have a target of income revenue and would work to promote the Liverpool "brand", sponsorship, advertising, media etc, etc.

      Team Manager - Duh!
      Rafael Benitez

      Hon. Life President
      D.R. Moores

      Previous chairman / owner, possibly used for advice but has no say in anything, the word "life" signifies that he is welcome at the company anytime.

      Hon. Life Vice Presidents
      T.D. Smith
      K.E.B Clayton FCA
      J.D. Burns
      J.H. Cresswell ACA

      As with David Moores, these people have worked for the company before, and "are always welcome" which signifies the honorary and life bits. The FCA and ACA are the American and UK Chartered Accountants agencies so guess what they did.

      Hope that clears it up, I've studied business and such for around 10 years now and the structure is essentially the same as any LTD company.
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      Re: What do these people do?
      Reply #18 : Sep 24, 2009 10:51:53 am »
      ACA and FCA are both members of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales (ICAEW).  ACA is an Associate Chartereed Accountant and FCA is a Fellow Chartered Accountant.  When you qualify you become and ACA, and after about 10 years you can apply to become an FCA.
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      Reply #19 : Sep 24, 2009 10:53:28 am »
      Cool, I knew FCA was for fellow, which i assumed was US based. Thanks for that.
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      Reply #20 : Sep 24, 2009 11:18:00 am »
      No probs  :)  I think the US equivalent is CPA.
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      Reply #21 : Sep 24, 2009 11:29:31 am »
      Ayre has increased our income from sponsorship etc by millions (something thats hould have happened years ago but Parry had his head stuck somewhere where the sun don't shine) which would be brilliant if it wasn't going to pay off the debt caused by the owners. Purslow's focus is also on the commercial side i.e. making more money for the club. Both seem to be doing a good job, but the problem is that the yanks get to say where the money goes and first up, it'll always be paying down the debt.
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      Reply #22 : Sep 24, 2009 11:29:49 am »
      Is it AICPA? It rings a bell. All these important acronyms, I dont bother with putting mine after my name, MCIPS and MCILT look stupid.

      Anyhow, I hope that people look at the above and get an idea, that LFC is a business, its not just Rafa and the players, a lot more goes on behind the scenes.
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      Reply #23 : Sep 24, 2009 11:34:58 am »
      Are the directors the Chairmen's kids? Have they done some legacy planning?
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      Reply #24 : Sep 24, 2009 11:49:57 am »
      Are the directors the Chairmen's kids? Have they done some legacy planning?

      I'd imagine them to be non-executive (guilty by association :D) but yes, they probably would inherit the club if H&G were both to accidentally on purpose die in a tragic accident  :f_whistle: ::)
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      Reply #25 : Sep 24, 2009 12:01:50 pm »
      Everyone of these faceless people are true supporters of H and G  or they wouldnt be in the position theyre in.. and therfore not standing for whats best for Liverpool F.C. Those two tw*ts would have got rid of Rafa only they now know they would never have been allowed to set foot in Liverpool again if they did. The truth is though theres always been people like this at clubs , you know , people who we never see or know, but the difference in the past was that the supporters trusted these people to do whats right for the club. Obviously no more.
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      Reply #26 : Sep 24, 2009 12:32:12 pm »
      What's the background of the guy in place of Rick Parry anyway?
      H&G are running this thing like a bloody private equity business.

      Are these two shareholders paying themselves dividends every year? They better not, when the club is in debt. They bought the club using the banks' money and here the club has to slog like hell to fulfill its interest obligations. Where have the prize money and proceeds on player sales gone to? 

      The nature of private equity investment is as follows:

      1. Fork out as little cash as possible for an acquisition, borrow as much as possible to finance it.
      2. Push down the debt and let the profits of the business take care of the interest payments.
      3. Strip out as much cash as you can and pay yourself dividends whenever possible.
      4. Once you have sucked the company dry, IPO the business or sell for a profit.
      5. Use part of the sale proceeds to repay the outstanding loan.
      6. You earn a handsome return on your investment outlay (the key was you borrowed a lot).

      It's getting worrying. Excess money goes into their pockets, not on transfers.
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      Reply #27 : Sep 24, 2009 02:04:07 pm »
      What's the background of the guy in place of Rick Parry anyway?
      H&G are running this thing like a bloody private equity business.

      Are these two shareholders paying themselves dividends every year? They better not, when the club is in debt. They bought the club using the banks' money and here the club has to slog like hell to fulfill its interest obligations. Where have the prize money and proceeds on player sales gone to? 

      The nature of private equity investment is as follows:

      1. Fork out as little cash as possible for an acquisition, borrow as much as possible to finance it.
      2. Push down the debt and let the profits of the business take care of the interest payments.
      3. Strip out as much cash as you can and pay yourself dividends whenever possible.
      4. Once you have sucked the company dry, IPO the business or sell for a profit.
      5. Use part of the sale proceeds to repay the outstanding loan.
      6. You earn a handsome return on your investment outlay (the key was you borrowed a lot).

      It's getting worrying. Excess money goes into their pockets, not on transfers.

      Unfortunately Ruth, football has become a private equity business game. You can guarantee that they are paying dividends to themselves, as chairman and owners they would be picking up a "salary" as such somewhere. The main problem is they didnt put much outlay down in the first place and used the estimated value of the club against the amount borrowed. They must have borrowed masses in the first place to have such high interest repayments, with very little put down (like getting a 150% mortgage with no deposit!).

      This suggests one of two things -

      1) The valuation and the balancing of the books and projection forecasts were way out of line.

      or

      2) As Ruth says, they were in it for a quick buck so to speak, unfortunately for them the "recession" struck and the club is way under the value they financed at.

      So in laymans - H&G bought a business valued at £500 million (theoretically) with no input (deposit) of their own so the interest was always going to be huge. Then the value dropped significantly (like house prices etc.), they didnt want to sell off at a loss (which would have been wise) and now they are constantly refinancing the deal at a detriment to the club itself. They have two options, ride it out until the value goes up (we need to win things for this to happen) or suck the club dry (Leeds anyone?).

      And for those hoping for a buyout from india or somewhere, this would have happened if someone came in which i dont believe has regardless of what the media say, as H&G would be champing at the bit if it did.
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      Reply #28 : Sep 24, 2009 03:22:52 pm »
      And to Moores and Parry we once again say ' cheers mate'. This whole disgusting farce started at their door and if its true that they say they' feel let down at what is happening to the club', then why not try to do something right and use your vast wealth and your obvious business contacts and try to do something.., anything to try and rectify the stae youve put our beloved Liverpool in.. YOU TWO DID THIS TO US,  so try and save the club you claim to love from these pair of clowns that YOU let in. And i say claim to love very lightly, because if i was you id use every penny i could to put right what ive done to Liverpool.
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      Reply #29 : Sep 24, 2009 03:54:26 pm »
      Just been reading the official weekly mag thing and came across a list of people, but what do they do? (I'd like a proper answer rather than the predictable "f**k the club up")

      Co-chairmen
      G.N. Gillett Jnr
      T.O. Hicks

      Directors
      F.L. Gillett
      T.O. Hicks Jnr

      Managing Director
      C.M.C. Purslow

      Group Chief Financial Officer
      P. Nash

      Commercial Director
      I. Ayre

      Team Manager
      Rafael Benitez

      Hon. Life President
      D.R. Moores

      Hon. Life Vice Presidents
      T.D. Smith
      K.E.B Clayton FCA
      J.D. Burns
      J.H. Cresswell ACA

      So can anybody shed light on what these people do for the club?

      I'll give me take on this.

      Chairman - Basically do nothing but sit around and have the highest level of authority of the club. Most power and it probably explains why our club is in such dire state.

      Directors - Sons of Hicks and Gillette, to supposedly be supporters of their fathers and will always sit in the ship with them. Act as assistants and probably have the next highest say after their dads.

      Managing Director - Oversees the operations of the club and reports to the directors and chairman. Both the commercial and footballing side. Most talks to other directors and of course, the manager.

      Financial officer - Calculates the finances we have? Handles the debt that we have to pay off? Dishes out the transfer funds (non existent ::)). Makes sure there's a balance. Reports to managing director on his reports.

      Commercial director - oversees the advertising of the club. Makes sure the fanbase is there throughout the world. Stuff like that. Make sure we're up to date and works hand in hand with the managing director to seal commercial and advertising deals.

      Manager - Shouts from the touchline? Oversees tactics? The one and only who makes Liverpool tick ;)

      Honourary Life Presidents/Vice-Presidents - Honoured by the club as they've probably served the club well. Have a say in things and will be in this position throughout their whole life. Looks more like people who make a living out of doing nothing.

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