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      Reply #138: Sep 30, 2009 10:06:02 am
      First half I cant remember the last time we played so awful, we didn’t look clinical infront of goal and we were never really challenging then. All credit to Fiorentina who I thought played very good and their defence was also solid. I just couldn’t believe the way we let either goal in, a load of tosh
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      Reply #139: Sep 30, 2009 10:09:50 am
      F**k Craig Foster has to be the biggest tit and joke, ever to commentate and analyse a game. I dont understand what his issue is with LFC but the smugg c**t is always smiling when we are down. Watched the program all the way to the end and the pr**k said " I honestly think Liverpool will struggle to make the group stages"

      Bloody tw*t!



      Judgin by your comments about this fella i'm guessin he's the oz equivalent of Andy 'game over' Gray?  No man gets my back up like that f**ker :f_steam:

      As far as the match goes its just one match, when the second ball falls to the opposition every time its loose and Stevies shots skim acrsoss the pitch like a pebble across water,till the ball nestles gently in the keepers arms you know you're on a hiding to nothin. One sub wasn't gonna sort out the mess we were in. The warm down sort of tells you that the lads won't be havin a nice few days and their tails'll be up for Chelsea. Which means we'll beat them 4-1 Torres (2) Gerrard (1) Kuyt (1) i'm givin them a goal because of our defence at the moment.
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      Reply #140: Sep 30, 2009 10:14:57 am
      Simple as this, they are Italian, their not conceeding goals, the Stadium is suppose to be a horrible atmos.

      They played excellent for 20 minutes in the first half, the other 25 was boring by both teams.

      We were by far the better team in the 2nd half but we couldnt break them.   Due to poor crosses, missed chances and no luck.

      Its not a bad loss, theres a loooooooooong way to go now.  And they will get hammered at Anfield
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      Reply #141: Sep 30, 2009 10:45:27 am

      Second Goal



      Skrtel had already headed a clearance right across the area to the Fiorentina winger before failing to get close enough to Jovetic.  Also Johnson was nowhere near close enough to allow the cross in.

      If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Carra like right behind Skrtel attacking the ball and probably would have dealt better with it? However much we can blame Johnson, Skrtel, Carra or Insua for the goal, we need to keep in mind that the other players should have prevented the cross from coming in in the first place. So if.. closing down = no cross = maybe no goal = maybe counter attack

      Well, Italy is never an easy place to play, IMO. We were dominated in the first half and that's where we lost the game.
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      Reply #142: Sep 30, 2009 10:56:24 am
      I didn't think they were that good, in the second half we played better and they were on the back foot, so as a team Fiorentina should have been put to the sword but because of a really bad display by us we made them look good. We should have beaten this team, their strength is counter attack and yet in the first half because they had no pressure put on them, they were able to get their goals then play their own game. Because of this result we may have to fight until the final game, not what Rafa had in mind....
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      Reply #143: Sep 30, 2009 10:58:41 am
      That Jovetic likes the odd dive. If he is to become the player he looks like he may become, I hope he cuts that out.

      Oh Lucas, you are shyte! I hope Rafa is starting to realise this! I know he is Brazillian but I am sure his parents must be from San Marino or the Faeroes!
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      Reply #144: Sep 30, 2009 11:04:10 am
      F**k Craig Foster has to be the biggest tit and joke, ever to commentate and analyse a game. I dont understand what his issue is with LFC but the smugg c**t is always smiling when we are down. Watched the program all the way to the end and the pr**k said " I honestly think Liverpool will struggle to make the group stages"

      Bloody tw*t!



      Could be worse, over her in Ireland on TV3 we have Neil Lennon and Cascarino in the studio and Lawrenson with his stupid laugh commentating with a fat Cork f**ker called Trevor Welch who is a dirty biased uniturd fan and is not shy about saying it too!
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      Reply #145: Sep 30, 2009 11:09:30 am
      Only just managed to get myself to talk about the game.

      I thought our fullbacks were hopeless in defence. They were completely clueless in defence and instead of dropping back abit more, they just parked in the opposition half and let their wingers surge past them on the counter. Woeful from Glen and Emi. Not to mention, Insua was just out of it for the first goal.

      Carra was pretty good i thought. Covered the fullbacks well and made good challenges. Skrtel could of done much better. He got burned so many times but that run to set up Torres was great.

      Lucas and Aurelio - terrible. They couldn't win the ball at all and couldn't string any passes together. I was praying for them to just find Steven and let him do the job but they failed to do that most times.

      Gerrard did well with what little ball he had. Looked driven and dangerous on the ball.

      Benayoun and Kuyt were our best i thought. They were battling for the ball and really ran with conviction. If Yossi scored after that run and turn in the box then it could of been different but he did everything perfect but for a good save. Kuyt also left their left back trailing multiple times.

      Torres was invisible but it wasn't his fault. His midfield did nothing to help his game.

      Overall, i cannot remember the last time another side beat us so well in our own game. Prandelli did his job as boss for the Viola, he got his tactics spot on and found the weakness in our system.

      I pray for a new Liverpool this weekend because if we play the same, we have no hope. We had absolutely nothing in attack and nothing in defence plus our midfield created nothing.
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      Reply #146: Sep 30, 2009 11:19:52 am
      Did I imagine Aurelio starting on the left last night with Benayoun in the centre because for some reason that’s how I remember it, maybe I was trying to imagine a different game? :S
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      Reply #147: Sep 30, 2009 11:21:09 am
      F**k Craig Foster has to be the biggest tit and joke, ever to commentate and analyse a game. I dont understand what his issue is with LFC but the smugg c**t is always smiling when we are down. Watched the program all the way to the end and the pr**k said " I honestly think Liverpool will struggle to make the group stages"




      The best way to carry on when watching the game on TV is turn the volume off - it's only some bigot b***ard who can see what you can so what's the big deal? ( unless of course it's our mate Allen Hansen ) If your watching on SKY that's even more reason because the "commentators" are appointed by that well known Liverpool hater rupert F***ing murdoch.
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      Reply #148: Sep 30, 2009 11:24:54 am
      I would make a constructive arguement against that but that would be a waste of time. You two probably wouldn't understand anyway.
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      Reply #149: Sep 30, 2009 11:34:33 am
      You didn't expect us to win or hoped we wouldn't? ::)

      Was in class while this happened, but from all reports im seeing here it seems we were pretty uninspiring :( Pretty confusing when we can beat Hull 6-1, and then we can't even put one past Fiorentina. As good as they may be, they are a team we should beat on our good days. Obviously a bad day, we shouldn't get to worried though. Hopefully another kick up the ass for the players anyways, but we just gotta remember to go for it from the off! That brilliant run in the last third of last season was down to blitzkrieg like tactics, and we need to use that EVERY game we play.
      And is it the more higher up teams at the moment that are able to bring us unstuck? Think about all our wins, they have come against average-ish teams. Stoke, Bolton, Burnley, West Ham, Hull, Debrecan. Whilst decent teams, none are the teams you expect to really be competing for major honors. Now our two premier league losses, both teams whilst not at the top of england, are very close to that bracket. And we have struggled. Now Fiorentina, a team doing very well in Italy and again it seems we have struggled. Though im not getting to worried, it makes this weekends clash against Chelsea very, very important. Big moment in the season coming up.

      No I didn't expect us to win. A draw would've been a great result. No premier league team has ever won at their home ground, and fiorentina aren't a walkover team that everone thinks they are. They showed yesterday that they have commited wing players who constantly run at the defence, and players who can produce moments of Brilliance. Plus they've got defenders who can defend if they decide to sit back like in the second half. Liverpool always play rubbish in the early stages of champions league. Mascherano is our most important player when we travel to other cities because his form rarely drops, so he might've done something about the goals. We were already at a disadvantage. I dont know why everyone is so shocked.
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      Re: Post Match: Fiorentina 2 Liverpool 0
      Reply #150: Sep 30, 2009 12:36:14 pm
      Too depressed right now to comment properly.
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      Reply #151: Sep 30, 2009 01:53:10 pm
      Benayoun and Kuyt were our best i thought.

      Agree with everything you said but this mate. I thought Kuyt was probably one of the worst players on the pitch in a Liverpool shirt simply for the fact whenever he got it, it was coming back. That counter attack we had, Stevie led it played it through to Kuyt on the right and bang he turns backwards. He didn't give any decent crosses for the forwards to attack, I don't remember a shot from him and he just frustrated the F**k out of me last night. And he's been frustrating me since the season began.
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      Reply #152: Sep 30, 2009 01:55:33 pm

      Unless I'm confused, wasn't it his effort that went in in the second half, only for it to be disallowed for an apparent foul?

      That being said, I agree he was poor.
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      Reply #153: Sep 30, 2009 01:57:55 pm
      Unless I'm confused, wasn't it his effort that went in in the second half, only for it to be disallowed for an apparent foul?

      That being said, I agree he was poor.

      Ah yeah it was mate, forgot about that one.

      So well done Dirk, you had a shot when everybody else had stood still. (before some jump the gun, I'm not being a c**t towards Ayrton here)
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      Reply #154: Sep 30, 2009 02:48:43 pm
      He honestly thinks we'll get relegated as well im sure. Doesn't know a F***ing thing about football, it really is amazing. I hated SBS back at home for the sole reason of how F***ing annoying, ignorant, and unknowledgeable he is. F**k off for good fozzie :mad:
      Plus he looks like a F***ing Thunderbird's marionette ::)
      If it wasn't for the football matches (and for the SBS porn :f_tongueincheek:) I wouldn't even bother having that channel tuned into my TV.

      On Topic:

      I can't remember the last time we played so ordinary it was really disappointing and boring to watch.
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      Reply #155: Sep 30, 2009 03:08:58 pm
      Our first half performance was so awful I couldn't even recalled when we ever got a clean chance on goal. We gave them too much space to manoeuvre and we couldn't even get a grip in midfield. Our passings were awful and often got cut off. Jovetic was awesome for them not because he's that great but because we let him be that good. Infact, our defensive line were not even fully organized. If it's not been for Insua letting him be onside, I think there's no 1st goal for them. Basically we're f**ked from kick-off right to the halftime whistle.

      Then on second half our boys upped their tempo and continuously putting pressure to them. I forced them to the extent they could only rely on counter attacks but again, our finishing were far from good. To be honest, not every single of our players played to their usual best. Only Benayoun, Kuyt and Babel were ok. Other than that, it was a poor performance from our lads. I was with a group of friends and they noticed that our players didn't have the sense of urgency even when they were 2-0 down. That's what frustrated me. I'm not disappointed by our lads but by their performance. But the game has been played and we lost.

      On the positive side though, Babel was looking increasingly good game by game. We might lost a battle but the war still not ended yet. We will continue fighting and that's what I can expect from our lads!
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      Reply #156: Sep 30, 2009 03:17:29 pm
      Fab did not look good in the middle of the pitch. We would have been much better off with Stevie maintaining the balance next to Lucas, which would have allowed the front four to cause Fiorentina headaches.

      I'm not saying that Fab didn't try or didn't make some nice passes, I'm saying that he's not a CM. We lacked stability in the middle and it affected everything. The first half was utter sh*te.

      ...and yes, Craig Foster is a c**t.


      I'm happy that some responsible fans seeing that our disappointing show was part and parcel to the experment in the midfeild.  Fab tried but he is no Mass or Stevie G.

      Rafa's madness (puts his players under unnessesary stress at times) is a part of his genius however it may edge our teeth at times,  Sunday will be a much different story with Mass back in the team (hopefully).

      Let's go Reds
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      Reply #157: Sep 30, 2009 03:58:33 pm
      Ah yeah it was mate, forgot about that one.

      So well done Dirk, you had a shot when everybody else had stood still. (before some jump the gun, I'm not being a c**t towards Ayrton here)
      Lucas had a free header that went over.
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      Re: Post Match: Fiorentina 2 Liverpool 0
      Reply #158: Sep 30, 2009 04:00:49 pm
      Lucas had a free header that went over.

      And that has what to do with Kuyt?
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      Reply #159: Sep 30, 2009 04:06:17 pm
      You said every1 else stood still
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      Re: Post Match: Fiorentina 2 Liverpool 0
      Reply #160: Sep 30, 2009 04:10:07 pm

      I suggest you learn to read before trying to act smart lad. It's quite clear I said Kuyt shot when everybody else stood still, in simple English (maybe a tad difficult for you) meaning I was one about Kuyt's shot only. Kuyt's only shot came when the whistle went for offside and everybody else stood still. Now do you understand, or is this aggressive for you as well?

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