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      Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Oct 09, 2009 01:21:27 pm
      John Barnes has been sacked as manager of Tranmere. Assistant Jason McAteer has also been sacked. Sorry to hear that but Tranmere had been fairly poor this season
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #1: Oct 09, 2009 01:39:44 pm
      What a shame I really wanted to see him do well. Maybe he's just not cut out for management.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #2: Oct 09, 2009 01:46:11 pm
      Not a shock really. I wounder if they would consider a job across Stanley Park?
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #3: Oct 09, 2009 08:28:51 pm
      He wasn't doing well there. Hope he gets another chance in management.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #4: Oct 09, 2009 09:55:08 pm
      I think doing a bit of coaching under a quality manager would do him some good. Maybe Rafa? Even helping out the ressies or something.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #5: Oct 09, 2009 10:08:50 pm
      Hard lines Johneh Barneh.

      Still, they've held your old job open for you at The National Trust.

      Eh Joey? ;)
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      Reply #6: Oct 09, 2009 10:20:05 pm
      I dont think it ever got going for them there. Managers are judged on results and unfortunately they didnt get many good results. As a previous post said I hope they get another chance.... but you could see this coming.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #7: Oct 09, 2009 10:20:35 pm
      They're live on Sky on Tuesday!
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #8: Oct 09, 2009 10:28:08 pm
      I think doing a bit of coaching under a quality manager would do him some good. Maybe Rafa? Even helping out the ressies or something.

      Suppose he didn't have all that much time under King Kenny's influence at Celtic. Apparently he's 'too nice' though. Maybe some graft down a lower league might do him good? Somewhere where he'll get more respect?

      Let's face it, any team with a run of results that Tranmere have had lately, the fans aren't gonna be happy. But to boo before a game just doesn't cut it with me. And things like that get absorbed by the players.

      To be honest, I don't know what he was doing taking over there. It's a Merseyside club so the pressure and spotlight was always gonna be that more bit intense.

      Best of luck for the future to one of the best players I've ever seen grace the red shirt though.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #9: Oct 09, 2009 10:29:46 pm
      f***in directors there are arseholes, why o why o why did they get rid of that last manager , who was doing brilliant WITH NO MONEY....fkin idiots.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #10: Oct 10, 2009 12:15:50 am
      Shame but suppose it was going to happen sooner or later going by how their season is going.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #11: Oct 10, 2009 10:49:11 am
      A pity. I wanted him to do well there and build his managerial career, but maybe it was not to be.
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      Reply #12: Oct 10, 2009 10:55:17 am
      Sorry it didn't work out for him but it is no suprise with the start they have had.Should not have changed anybody from last year just missing out on the play offs on last day of season so blame it on the directors for changing things that seemed to be going well.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #13: Oct 10, 2009 11:18:55 am
      Not cut out for management at the moment, a coaching role at a league 2 team would do no harm. Best of luck lads.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #14: Oct 10, 2009 01:06:49 pm
      2 wins in 11 is a bad start no matter who you are. Hard stuff is management.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #15: Oct 10, 2009 01:11:04 pm
      They're live on Sky on Tuesday!


      Monday night it is now.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #16: Oct 10, 2009 01:58:52 pm
      When the players nicked named the manager and his assistant as Dumb and Dumber it was only a matter of time really wasnt it. Both great Liverpool players but not sure if they have the qualities needed for management.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #17: Oct 10, 2009 04:15:39 pm
      Hard lines Johneh Barneh.

      Still, they've held your old job open for you at The National Trust.

      Eh Joey? ;)

      Aye I think so! ;)

      :lmao:
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #18: Oct 11, 2009 02:52:04 pm
      I hate those tranmere fans slatting Barnsey I've sent them a nice message on facebook
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #19: Oct 11, 2009 03:14:27 pm
      Stick to presenting if I was you Barnsey!

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      Reply #20: Oct 11, 2009 07:08:10 pm
      Was always going to be an uphill battle, shame it didn't work out for either of them  :(
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #21: Oct 11, 2009 08:09:11 pm
      I'd have him back here showing Riera and Babel how it's done.

      He's probably still better than them! :D
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #22: Oct 11, 2009 08:15:12 pm
      I'd have him back here showing Riera and Babel how it's done.

      He's probably still better than them! :D

      In all seriousness that might not be a bad idea - might be a decent coach for the wingers?

      Then again, might not.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #23: Oct 11, 2009 09:19:27 pm
      Be a decent coach for the wingers if Rafa wants them to learn how to eat meat pies. F**kin width of him! ;)
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #24: Oct 11, 2009 09:20:20 pm
      Benayoun spring to mind?
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #25: Oct 11, 2009 09:23:08 pm
      Shame about his sacking, would be a useful coach back here as as already been mentioned!
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #26: Oct 11, 2009 09:25:16 pm

      Naa. He'd never take the Tranmere job.
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      Reply #27: Oct 11, 2009 09:32:24 pm
      Fowler's name is mentioned in the People !
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      Reply #28: Oct 12, 2009 11:18:49 am
      Fowler wont take it
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      Reply #29: Oct 12, 2009 07:58:49 pm
      When he was doing strictly come dancing I saw him on thursday morning about 7.00am after a CL match on wednesday he had been on an allnight bender he looked wrecked but I bet he had a good night.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #30: Oct 13, 2009 12:58:51 pm
      John Barnes sacking leaves prospective black managers fearing the worst
      James Ducker October 13, 2009

      Opportunities to land top jobs are few and far between

      John Barnes will have a tale or two to tell when he attends the Black Coachesā€™ Forum in London tomorrow.

      The former Liverpool wingerā€™s sacking as Tranmere Rovers manager last week brought the number of black managers working among the 92 professional clubs in England back to two and reignited the debate about why the opportunities afforded to non-whites in coaching and management in this country still seem so thin on the ground.

      Barnes, 45, would be the first to say that a record of eight defeats in 11 league games at the Coca-Cola League One club was not good enough, even if the severe financial limitations he was working under were often conveniently overlooked, but he must have justifiable cause to wonder if he will work in management again.

      After an ill-fated spell at Celtic, it took Barnes nearly ten years before another club were willing to give him a second chance. How long will he have to wait before he gets a third roll of the dice? Twenty years?

      For Andrew Cole, the former Manchester United, Newcastle United and England striker, who is one of a number of high-profile former players eager to pursue a career in coaching or management, Barnesā€™s story raises a multitude of issues, many depressingly familiar.

      How, for example, are lesser known black footballers than him expected to get their break if Barnes, arguably the most prominent black English footballer of his generation, found it so hard to get back into management?

      And why should the more recent generation of black footballers, for whom the need to continue working is no longer as great as it was for their predecessors, bother subjecting themselves to such a demoralising process of rejection, when, as was the case with black players in the 1960s and 1970s, they seem to need to prove they are ā€œten times betterā€ than their white counterparts?

      ā€œBlack players had various stigmas to deal with in the past ā€” that we couldnā€™t play in the winter, that we could only play on the wing and now itā€™s a similar story when it comes to management,ā€ Cole said. ā€œIā€™m in the process of doing my Uefa B licence which I should have passed later this year, but will I get an opportunity at the end of it all? I donā€™t know.ā€

      Cole was speaking as part of an MUTV panel hosted by Rio Ferdinand, the United defender, who believes that it is essential black players aspiring to be managers do not allow themselves to become disillusioned.

      The statistics do not inspire optimism, however. Even though just less than a quarter of professional footballers in England are black, less than one per cent of football coaching and administration posts are held by non-white candidates. Since the 1992-93 season, there have been only 31 appointments of black managers, involving only 17 different managers.

      However, there was no suggestion that Barnesā€™s dismissal had anything to do with the colour of his skin.

      Piara Powar director of footballā€™s anti-racism campaign, Kick It Out, which launches its 2009 Weeks Of Action campaign on Thursday, and Bobby Barnes, the assistant chief executive of the Professional Footballersā€™ Association, feel the situation may improve if more black people enter the boardrooms of football clubs.

      At the moment, Jason Rockett, at Sheffield United, is the only black chief executive at a league club.

      Cole, though, rightly points out that Premier League clubs do not seem to have had a problem appointing black foreign coaches. ā€œI think we have this perception that black English born players canā€™t manage but when itā€™s a black foreign coach itā€™s different ā€” look at Jean Tigana [the former Fulham manager] and Ruud Gullit [who managed Chelsea and Newcastle],ā€ Cole said. ā€œBlack is black so what is the problem? We will have him, but we wonā€™t have him.ā€

      America serves as a source of some inspiration. The 2007 NFL Superbowlpitted two black coaches ā€” Tony Dungy of the Indianapolis Colts and Lovie Smith of the Chicago Bears ā€” against each other, although the prospect of two black managers contesting an FA Cup Final will still seem like a far-fetched idea to many. Barnes included.

      Managing expectations

      1 Jason Rockett, at Sheffield United, is the only black chief executive of the 92 professional clubs in England and Wales

      2 The number of black managers presently working in professional football in England. Keith Alexander at Macclesfield Town and Paul Ince at MK Dons. Chris Hughton is only the caretaker manager at Newcastle United

      17 The number of black managers in English football since the 1992-93 season

      49.07 Percentage of all first-time managers who are never appointed to a further post.


      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6872089.ece
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #31: Oct 13, 2009 03:23:22 pm
      There can't be too many experienced managers who'd put thier hands up for that job and it always looked like a bridge too far for Digger. It looks as tho he'll just have to wait for the right post to come his way.
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      Reply #32: Oct 15, 2009 11:39:48 am
      John Barnes was an excellent professional and to hear him talk, he clearly has a vast knowledge of the game...he obviously just has a problem transferring this knowledge onto his players. Gutted to see him fail.
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #33: Oct 15, 2009 10:15:44 pm
      With players sold no money it was inevitable
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #34: Oct 21, 2009 03:42:38 pm
      More bad news for him. He's been declared bankrupt.

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/10/21/liverpool-fc-legend-john-barnes-declared-bankrupt-100252-24982318/

      Liverpool FC legend John Barnes declared bankrupt


      FORMER Tranmere Rovers boss and Liverpool legend John Barnes has been declared bankrupt.

      An order was made at the High Court in London on October 14, just five days after he was sacked as manager at Prenton Park.

      The application listed Barnesā€™ occupation as a provider of media services lately a footballer.

      An address in Heswall, on Wirral, was given for the 45-year-old who will be discharged from bankruptcy within 12 months, on October 14, 2010.

      Barnes was unavailable for comment today.

      Despite being dismissed from Tranmere, the news still comes as a surprise as the ex-footballer was a regular charity campaigner and part of the FAā€™s campaign to bring the World Cup to the UK in 2018.

      Last year the public got a glimpse of his ailing finances when he told magistrates he could not afford a driver.

      He was appealing against a charge of driving without insurance and wanted to avoid a ban.Barnes is said to live with his wife Andrea and their two children.

      He also supports children from a previous relationship.

      In a recent newspaper interview in March Barnes said: "Iā€™m not a budgeter at all, because I never had to be when I was playing football, so I ran up lots of debts and credit card bills and got used to having debt.

      "The hardest period is when you first finish playing because you still have some money left over from your football salary, but you can't keep spending at the same rate. A few years later when that runs out you really do have to adjust."
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      Re: Digger sacked at Tranmere
      Reply #35: Oct 21, 2009 05:32:13 pm
      More bad news for him. He's been declared bankrupt.

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/10/21/liverpool-fc-legend-john-barnes-declared-bankrupt-100252-24982318/

      Liverpool FC legend John Barnes declared bankrupt


      FORMER Tranmere Rovers boss and Liverpool legend John Barnes has been declared bankrupt.

      An order was made at the High Court in London on October 14, just five days after he was sacked as manager at Prenton Park.

      The application listed Barnesā€™ occupation as a provider of media services lately a footballer.

      An address in Heswall, on Wirral, was given for the 45-year-old who will be discharged from bankruptcy within 12 months, on October 14, 2010.

      Barnes was unavailable for comment today.

      Despite being dismissed from Tranmere, the news still comes as a surprise as the ex-footballer was a regular charity campaigner and part of the FAā€™s campaign to bring the World Cup to the UK in 2018.

      Last year the public got a glimpse of his ailing finances when he told magistrates he could not afford a driver.

      He was appealing against a charge of driving without insurance and wanted to avoid a ban.Barnes is said to live with his wife Andrea and their two children.

      He also supports children from a previous relationship.

      In a recent newspaper interview in March Barnes said: "Iā€™m not a budgeter at all, because I never had to be when I was playing football, so I ran up lots of debts and credit card bills and got used to having debt.

      "The hardest period is when you first finish playing because you still have some money left over from your football salary, but you can't keep spending at the same rate. A few years later when that runs out you really do have to adjust."

      Bad news that.

      Though how can someone still in the game get into this state? Were Tranmere playing him in credits?

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