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      Mr Alex Ferguson (Manchester United)

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      Mr Alex Ferguson (Manchester United)
      Oct 27, 2009 12:16:17 am
      Alex Ferguson under fire from referees after new outburst at Anfield
      Sir Alex Ferguson's protests following Sunday's defeat to Liverpool has seen the veteran Manchester United manager come under attack from referees.

      Ferguson was incensed that Jamie Carragher received only a yellow card following the defender's challenge on United striker Michael Owen, and questioned referee Andre Marriner's experience at handling big games.

      "It's so frustrating when a manager as experienced and respected as Sir Alex Ferguson makes a statement about the laws of the game which is completely inaccurate," former Premier League referee Jeff Winter told The Guardian.

      Another senior refereeing source, still officiating in the Premier League, agreed with Winter: "Ferguson clearly doesn't understand the law about the denial of an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. The fouled player has to have full control of the ball and has to be moving towards the goal but Michael Owen did not fulfil either condition.

      "Andre Marriner was absolutely right to award a yellow card and a direct free-kick.

      "It would have been totally wrong for him to have sent Jamie Carragher off."

      The anonymous source further lambasted Ferguson, and offered support for Marriner: "Sir Alex should never have said that Andre Marriner was not an experienced referee when he is on the FIFA list and got all the important decisions right on Sunday."

      In recent times Ferguson has invoked the wrath of the FA for questioning the fitness of referee Alan Wiley, an offence that forced an apology from the United manager.

      However, it is understood that Sunday's outburst will not incur any FA investigation or punishment, despite referees' union chief Alan Leighton describing Ferguson's apology to Wiley as "half-hearted".

      Winter, who himself had plenty of run-ins with the United boss, went on to suggest that Ferguson seeks to deflect attention away from poor results by making a scapegoat out of referees.

      "I don't know if Sir Alex Ferguson has got a problem with referees but he has got a problem when Manchester United don't win and blaming the referee is the easy option," he said.

      "His statement about Carragher shows that either he doesn't know the laws of the game or he's resorting to mind games again."

      But Winter went on to reject assertions that Ferguson is mellowing as he winds towards the end of an illustrious career.

      He said: "Some of his touchline antics, when you see the veins standing out on his neck and see him swearing and shouting, are not too good for his own health let alone anyone else's.

      "I don't know whether it's age or what but he seems to be getting less tolerant of everybody and everything – especially when Manchester United don't manage to win.

      "This sort of thing seems to be happening every other week with him now."

      Winter suggested that the FA "impose a FIFA-style stadium ban on Sir Alex", as a "harsh punishment to teach him and everyone else a lesson".

      He went on to suggest that the Respect campaign would be "dead in the water" if Ferguson was not punished, stating that "a fine or, in this case, even a touchline ban won't be enough".

      Ferguson's seeming indifference to the authorities could be rectified, according to Winter, by expediating FA disciplinary procedures:

      "It's three and a half weeks since his comments about Alan Wiley and still nothing has happened."

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/26/alex-ferguson-referees-manchester-united

      just saw this now sorry if its been posted I think he might be deluded clearly he dragged Carragher down ???
      « Last Edit: Nov 09, 2009 02:36:09 pm by crouchinho »
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #1: Oct 27, 2009 12:56:36 am
      :lmao:
      owned.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #2: Oct 27, 2009 02:30:03 am
      Now that's a news article I enjoyed reading.  ;D
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #3: Oct 27, 2009 03:42:29 am
      What was the source??
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      Reply #4: Oct 27, 2009 04:18:54 am
      Winter, who himself had plenty of run-ins with the United boss, went on to suggest that Ferguson seeks to deflect attention away from poor results by making a scapegoat out of referees.

      "I don't know if Sir Alex Ferguson has got a problem with referees but he has got a problem when Manchester United don't win and blaming the referee is the easy option," he said.

      "His statement about Carragher shows that either he doesn't know the laws of the game or he's resorting to mind games again."

      But Winter went on to reject assertions that Ferguson is mellowing as he winds towards the end of an illustrious career.

      He said: "Some of his touchline antics, when you see the veins standing out on his neck and see him swearing and shouting, are not too good for his own health let alone anyone else's.

      "I don't know whether it's age or what but he seems to be getting less tolerant of everybody and everything – especially when Manchester United don't manage to win.

      "This sort of thing seems to be happening every other week with him now."
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      Reply #5: Oct 27, 2009 09:54:22 am

      Quote
      "It's so frustrating when a manager as experienced and respected as Sir Alex Ferguson makes a statement about the laws of the game which is completely inaccurate," former Premier League referee Jeff Winter told The Guardian.

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      Reply #6: Oct 27, 2009 10:32:01 am
      Haha, Mr Ferguson's makes a right fool of himself, again!

      He said: "Some of his touchline antics, when you see the veins standing out on his neck and see him swearing and shouting, are not too good for his own health let alone anyone else's.

      "I don't know whether it's age or what but he seems to be getting less tolerant of everybody and everything – especially when Manchester United don't manage to win.

      "This sort of thing seems to be happening every other week with him now."

      Winter suggested that the FA "impose a FIFA-style stadium ban on Sir Alex", as a "harsh punishment to teach him and everyone else a lesson".

      He went on to suggest that the Respect campaign would be "dead in the water" if Ferguson was not punished, stating that "a fine or, in this case, even a touchline ban won't be enough".

      Ferguson's seeming indifference to the authorities could be rectified, according to Winter, by expediating FA disciplinary procedures:

      "It's three and a half weeks since his comments about Alan Wiley and still nothing has happened."

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/26/alex-ferguson-referees-manchester-united
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      just saw this now sorry if its been posted I think he might be deluded clearly he dragged Carragher down ???

      Well in Jeff Winter!
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #7: Oct 27, 2009 10:36:20 am
      Link Now Added to main article.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/26/alex-ferguson-referees-manchester-united

      Jeff Winter. The Man Him Self.

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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #8: Oct 27, 2009 11:19:49 am
      Well in Mr. Winter!
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #9: Oct 27, 2009 11:38:28 am
      Fergie's far too arrogant to give a fook what Jeff Winter says or anybody else for that matter, he thinks he's untouchable and the way the FA let him get away with stuff is a disgrace and adds to his arrogance to be honest. Rafa gets charged for having a look at his glasses, whilst Fergie has a full blown public rant criticising the ref and it wont "incur any FA investigation or punishment", says it all really I wonder who's on the United payroll in the FA head quarters :f_whistle:
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #10: Oct 27, 2009 11:40:37 am
      Well in sir!

      I had initially no clue about this guy till he came out and protected Alan Wiley.

      And now he's come out and spoke the truth about Andre Marriner. He backs up his case, pressurises the FA to mete our heavy punishment to this Fergie. And he confirms that Carragher should not have been red-carded, the decision was right. What this means it that, I'm sending the newslink to every manc. No excuses now mancs and shut the F**k up. They were so sore on Monday morning the first thing I heard was 'The ref was biased'. I was like 'WTF.' Now this link should make you all eat your F***ing words, shows that you mancs are the worst 'fans' in the world and also about time for you that LIVERPOOL 2-0 UNITED.

      And also there's always a good difference between a Sir and a Slur.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #11: Oct 27, 2009 11:55:51 am
      Losing his grip on a few referee's now I see.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #12: Oct 27, 2009 12:02:10 pm
      Rafa's "rant" is begining to show signs of blossoming.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #13: Oct 27, 2009 01:10:21 pm
      A suitable ban for this slur would be a touchline ban for the rest of the season.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #14: Oct 27, 2009 01:11:49 pm
      He is as bitter as all the Evertonians added up. Blames the ref again. Has he not got the dignity or balls to say his side were beaten by the better team? Horrible man wrongly respected by so many.
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      Reply #15: Oct 27, 2009 05:24:11 pm
      Alex Ferguson under fire from referees after new outburst at Anfield
      "Some of his touchline antics, when you see the veins standing out on his neck and see him swearing and shouting, are not too good for his own health let alone anyone else's."


      I say this could be the whisky expressing itself just as well.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #16: Oct 28, 2009 08:14:53 am
      Well said, Mr. Winter, but it's a shame the FA won't be able to read this, because they are too far up Fergies arse.

      That man is getting boring now. He blames the ref every time he loses, or drops points etc. Just admit that you were played off the park, underestimated your opponents, and played two players incapable of tackling in midfield.
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      Reply #17: Oct 28, 2009 08:17:33 am
      Well said, Mr. Winter, but it's a shame the FA won't be able to read this, because they are too far up Fergies arse.

      That man is getting boring now. He blames the ref every time he loses, or drops points etc. Just admit that you were played off the park, underestimated your opponents, and played two players incapable of tackling in midfield.
      I heard that there is so many people up his arse that they're thinking about setting up a starbucks there.
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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #18: Oct 28, 2009 09:14:16 am
      This is so right.

      I don't think he's ever come out and say "We were 2nd best" , has he?
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      Reply #19: Oct 28, 2009 03:41:15 pm
      Haha f***in alco !
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      Reply #20: Oct 30, 2009 03:16:44 pm
      Graham Poll's Official Line: Sorry, Sir Alex, you're wrong - United defender Vidic rightly saw red and Liverpool captain Carra on Owen was just yellow
      Another big game; another referee under siege.

      Let’s deal with the decisions first. It is frustrating for referees to get things right, then be criticised by observers who are ignorant of the laws. For a player to be dismissed for denying a scoring opportunity, the player fouled must be heading towards the goal, not just the goal line.

      Good job: Andre Marriner got the big calls right

      So when Michael Owen was pulled down by Jamie Carragher in the 87th minute, Andre Marriner had an easy, routine decision: a direct free kick and a yellow card. It could not be a red card, whatever Sir Alex Ferguson and TV experts assert.

      Marriner was also correct to dismiss Nemanja Vidic in stoppage time for his second yellow card, after he deliberately blocked Dirk Kuyt on the halfway line — again not the denial of a scoring opportunity, but a cautionable offence.

      Carragher’s challenge on Michael Carrick was good. His momentum took him through the midfielder, but he came in from the side and got the ball.
      Sir Alex suggested Marriner’s inexperience might have been a factor. It was his first top-four clash, but he is an international referee ranked fifth in England with more than 60 games in six Premier League seasons.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1222963/Graham-Polls-Official-Line-Sorry-Sir-Alex-youre-wrong.html

      End of the story Ferguscum. Graham Poll, England's most respected, retired referee has come out and say you're wrong.

      Stop whining Fergie and you all shitty mancs... the better team won, end of the story.

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      Re: Fergies cracking up
      Reply #21: Oct 30, 2009 03:27:16 pm
      Fergie's getting his coffin ready would be more of a suitable title :D
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      Reply #22: Oct 30, 2009 07:00:13 pm
      It's about time people started to speak up against Ferguson,for too many years he has been getting away with it and everybody should agree with him but it look's like the tide is changing and people are seeing him for what he is,a bitter manc b*stard.

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