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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #46: Oct 31, 2009 12:01:36 am
      Whats with macherano lately? For a guy whose most likely moving to Barca next season he sure is giving a lot of positive and supportive interviews.

      Maybe because he's not moving?
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #47: Oct 31, 2009 12:09:48 am
      Whats with macherano lately? For a guy whose most likely moving to Barca next season he sure is giving a lot of positive and supportive interviews.

      He's supporting the team he's currently playing for.  It's not a given that he's off next season, probable if you believe everything you read, he might well be off.  I hope not though and atm he's a Red.  And I think the way he's come out and said what he has over the last couple of weeks should be applauded.  Well in Javier Mascherano!  He's backed his manager and his team.  And he's done the business on the pitch.  More of the same please MonsterMasch!
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #48: Oct 31, 2009 01:20:15 am
      I would give Degen a pop at right back tomorrow. We need a win to keep the momentum going and as Fulham are struggling without arguably their best three for tomorrow, i think we should go and attack them. 
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #49: Oct 31, 2009 02:35:49 am
      Shame Kelly is still injured because he would have gotten another chance to play.

      Reckon it will be Carra at right back with Agger and Skrtel in the centre.

      Other than that i think it will be the same team that started against United.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #50: Oct 31, 2009 05:08:57 am
      Fulham are a good side at home... actually they should have beaten Roma and last weekend away to City, they give them a game.. so who ever reckons this is a walk in the park.... think again...

      but still im going for 2-1 win for us

      no babel please...
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #51: Oct 31, 2009 05:45:40 am
      As much of the same team as last weekend as possible...fulham are strong in the middle and on long ball so we should be fine and able to push on the flanks...yossi on the left cutting in is good as crossing will be pointless with hageland in the centre....same tactics as sunday I'd say with lucas getting a little further forward. Going for a 2-0. Torres and kuyt
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #52: Oct 31, 2009 08:27:02 am
                      Reina

      Carragher - Skrtel - Agger - Insua

                Lucas - Mascherano

            Kuyt - Benayoun - Aurelio

                       Torres

      I don't think he'll start Degen unfortunately as much as i'd like to see him start... He was impressive the other night.
      I don't think we should take Fulham lightly, however i'd be disappointed if we didn't get anything but a win here. We need to push on and start a winning streak.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #53: Oct 31, 2009 08:39:29 am
      We spanked Man U - why should this be any different?  Victory and a clean sheet, thank you.  :scarf:
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #54: Oct 31, 2009 08:46:17 am
      Is Aquilani at the trip?
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #55: Oct 31, 2009 09:00:42 am

      Plz dont call him Aquilani...:P....

      anywayz we should play...

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                Lucas - Mascherano

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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #56: Oct 31, 2009 09:22:15 am
       Rafa on injuries, confidence and Fulham


      Rafa on injuries, confidence and Fulham

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166274091031-0857.htm

      Rafa Benitez spoke to radio journalists as part of the build-up to this afternoon's Barclays Premier League clash with Fulham at Craven Cottage. Here's what the boss had to say.

      Journalist: Could you give us the injury news first Rafa?
       
      We have some problems. Gerrard still has some problems with his groin so we have to be careful. Johnson has a small tear in his calf so he will not be available. Torres hopefully will be okay. Aquilani has a virus – not swine flu just a virus, and we will see how he is. We are also without Riera, El Zhar and Kelly.
       
      Journalist: After such a great result against Manchester United how frustrating is it you will be without these key players at Fulham?
       
      We know it is a difficult time but we had some problems before. It's a question of time so hopefully the other players that come in will help us keep the momentum and the good mentality we have at this moment.
       
      Journalist: It is about momentum and that performance last Sunday cannot be a one off can it?
       
      We know that it is important to keep winning games, especially when we want to be top of the table. We have to keep winning and we will see if we can play well.
       
      Journalist: After the United game Javier Mascherano said this is a fresh start now. Is that what you have been saying to your players?
       
      I didn't need to say too much because they were so happy and I knew it was a key game for us. I'm really pleased also to read this from Mascherano because he is very positive and coming back to his level. I’m really pleased for the team because we need every player and Mascherano is right because it was a very good game and a boost for everyone.
       
      Journalist: Is it a good thing that you are out of the Carling Cup and can now focus on the Premier League and other competitions?
       
      We are disappointed because we want to win trophies and we want to do well. We played away from home against a good team at a good stadium. Arsenal have some quality but I thought it was a good game and we did well. The young players showed quality and character and it was positive in terms of the performance, but we were disappointed in terms of the result. The only positive thing you can find now is that we will have less games, and maybe if we have problems like we have at the moment with injuries then we can manage better.
       
      Journalist: The supporters are realistic as well and you haven’t got a squad as strong as the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal have you?
       
      We have a better team and a better squad than people think. Maybe the squad is not as big as the others in terms of senior players with experience, so it could be easier for us now to focus on the other competitions. But we are disappointed because we wanted to be in the quarter-final.
       
      Journalist: It was such a good performance against United and you had a high intensity from start to finish. Is that the benchmark what you need to do every game?
       
      Yes because we know if you want to beat teams like United you have to do well. You cannot start slowly and you need a high tempo because they have some quality and if you don't it can be very difficult. We know this is the way we need to play against United and it's the same against other teams. But can you keep up this high tempo and this intensity for two or three months? It's not easy but we will try to do it against Fulham.
       
      Journalist: You were boosted against United by the return of Fernando Torres and he didn't disappoint did he?
       
      I said after the game Fernando was only around 80 per cent fit. He did well and was a key player for us. He will be a key player for the rest of the season because he can score goals and make a difference to the team. It's important to keep him fit and it is important for the rest of the players because when he is on the pitch they have more confidence too.
       
      Journalist: Yossi Benayoun scored a last minute winner at Fulham last season. How influential a player is he for you, especially without your injured captain?
       
      Yossi is a key player for us. Before, people had some doubts about him but we knew he has quality. He has game intelligence and he can change a game for us. When we don't have Gerrard on the pitch at the moment, Yossi can be a key player. Hopefully he will be an important player for us again in this game.
       
      Journalist: Are you surprised how well he fits into any position you play him in?
       
      Not really because I knew him when he was in Spain at Racing Santander. We knew about his mentality and game intelligence so when we signed him we were bringing a player into a top side. Because we have some good players, sometimes he has to be on the bench but when he is playing he shows the quality he has.
       
      Journalist: When you go into any game without your top players it's always going to be difficult so how much do you miss Gerrard and Torres when they are not available?
       
      Always we talk about Gerrard and Torres because they are key players for us but I think we now seeing the best of Mascherano. You could see from the players who played against Arsenal that we have some quality. To have players like Gerrard and Torres on the pitch, who can change a game, always makes it easier for a manager, but the other players have shown quality and hopefully they will do the same against Fulham.
       
      Journalist: You won a dramatic game at Fulham last season with the last minute goal so what do you make of the job Roy Hodgson has done at Craven Cottage?
       
      He is doing a very good job. I know we had to wait until the last minute for the win last season but we did hit the post four times in the first half. They are a good team who are well organised. Roy has experience, he is a good manager and a nice man. You can always talk to him about football and it is always a pleasure to see him.
       
      Journalist: Is Steven Gerrard's injury a worry for you?
       
      I think he is improving but we have to see next week. He is working with the physios and he is progressing but slowly. We will see in the next week and then we have to decide what to do if he is not progressing as quickly as we think.
       
      Journalist: Your supporters were impressed with Alberto Aquilani when he came on against Arsenal. He is another player who looks like he can make a difference to the team isn't he?
       
      We were talking before about his qualities and he is a player who can pass the ball. He is really good in the final third of the field. Physically he will need time.
       
      Journalist: How long will it be before he can start a game for you?
       
      He wants to play. We were talking about his match fitness and he was pushing us saying he wants to play. He has a really good mentality and he wants to impress. We have to decide and be careful with him. If he is okay then maybe in one or two weeks he can start.

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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #57: Oct 31, 2009 09:24:46 am
       Fulham V Reds: Big Match Preview

      Fulham V Reds: Big Match Preview

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N166275091031-0857.htm

      Liverpool return to Barclays Premier League action today with a trip to Craven Cottage to take on Fulham.
      The Reds will be hoping to build on the fine 2-0 success against Manchester United last weekend, but will come up against a Cottagers side who are unbeaten in their last five matches.
       
      However, Rafa Benitez and his troops enjoy a good record in SW6 and have won their last two fixtures away to Fulham - most recently in April when Yossi Benayoun fired a dramatic stoppage-time winner.
       
      The opposition
       
      Fulham currently occupy 13th position in the Barclays Premier League and go into this clash with the Reds after claiming an impressive point against Manchester City last time out.
       
      Having found themselves 2-0 down after an hour at Eastlands, strikes from Damien Duff and Clint Dempsey salvaged a point for the Cottagers.
       
      Roy Hodgson's men are unbeaten in their last five matches and can consider themselves unfortunate to have only picked up a point in their recent meeting with AS Roma in the Europa League.
       
      However, Fulham have failed to find the back of the net in each of their last four matches with Liverpool and top-scorer Danny Murphy could miss the game through injury.

      The boss
       
      Fulham appointed experienced boss Roy Hodgson in December 2007 with the assignment of attempting to keep the Cottagers in the Premier League.
       
      Having won only twice in the first 20 league games of 2007-08, Fulham were languishing at the foot of the table and looking odds on for the drop.
       
      However, while Hodgson found points difficult to come by initially, he amassed 12 points from Fulham's final five fixtures to ensure the Cottagers retained their top flight status.
       
      Having staved off relegation, the Whites have enjoyed a fantastic 2008-09. Few would have anticipated Fulham claiming their highest ever finish, and a European spot, but Hodgson is something of a managerial veteran with over 30 years experience both domestically and internationally.
       
      After an unspectacular playing career, the 62-year-old has enjoyed a diverse and colourful livelihood as a coach at a variety of different clubs across Europe.
       
      He cut his managerial teeth at Swedish club Halmstad in 1976, where he won two league titles before moving to Bristol City. Hodgson returned to Sweden in 1982 to coach Orebro and Malmo.
       
      In 1990, Hodgson joined Swiss outfit Neuchatel Xamax. He spent two years at 'Stade de la Maladiere' prior to taking up a post with the Switzerland national team.
       
      He guided the Swiss through a tricky qualifying group that included Italy and Portugal, to take the 'Schweizer Nati' to the 1994 World Cup finals in the USA. They reached the last 16 stage before being eliminated by Spain.
       
      Switzerland soared through the qualification process for Euro 96, but Hodgson resigned from his position immediately after they had booked their place at the championships to take up the reins at Inter Milan in 1995.
       
      Hodgson spent two years at the San Siro, losing the UEFA Cup final on penalties to Schalke, before agreeing a deal to join Blackburn Rovers in 1997. However, he was sacked in only his second season at Ewood Park after a string of poor results.
       
      The Somerset-born coach returned to Inter for a brief stint as a technical director ahead of management spells with Grasshoppers and FC Copenhagen.
       
      After a six-month stint with Serie A side Udinese in 2001, Hodgson was appointed manager of the United Arab Emirates. He was dismissed from his position in 2004 and moved to Norway to take control at Viking FK.
       
      He returned to international management a year later with Finland, but quit after failing to secure qualification for Euro 2008.
       
      A month after resigning, Hodgson moved to Craven Cottage to revitalise the fortunes of the West London club - and he steered them to their highest ever finish (7th) last season.
       
      The danger man
       
      Damien Duff is a new arrival at Craven Cottage after Roy Hodgson swooped to sign the winger from relegated Newcastle United in August.
       
      The deal reunited player and manager after the duo had spent time together at Blackburn Rovers during the mid-90s.
       
      The 70-plus capped Irish international has a wealth of Premier League experience, having also turned out for Chelsea.
       
      Pacey and direct, the Reds' rearguard will have to be on their toes to keep the wide-man at bay.
       
      The legend
       
      Fulham's official website describes legendary forward Johnny Haynes as their 'best ever player'.
       
      The forward holds the Cottagers' all-time appearance record, turning out 648 times for the Londoners, in which he scored 157 goals between 1952 and 1970. He became Britain's first £100-per-week player following the abolition of the £20 salary cap in 1961.
       
      Nicknamed 'The Maestro', Haynes was an inaugural inductee to the English Football Hall of Fame in 2002 and Brazilian icon Pele once claimed Haynes was the best passer of a ball he'd ever seen.
       
      Haynes won 56 caps for England, scoring 18 goals.
       
      Fulham fact file
       
      Fulham were formed in 1879, originally as Fulham St Andrew's Church Sunday School, and are the oldest professional team in London.
       
      They are nicknamed 'The Cottagers' or 'The Whites'.
       
      Fulham play at Craven Cottage, which has a capacity of 25,500. It's been their home since 1896.
       
      However, between 2002 and 2004, Fulham played their home matches at the nearby Loftus Road while Craven Cottage underwent renovation.
       
      Johnny Haynes holds the Fulham record for most appearances. The forward made 648 appearances for the Cottagers over a period of eighteen years.
       
      Gordon Davies is their record goal scorer with 178.
       
      Fulham's highest ever finish was 7th, which came last season.
       
      Players to have been on the books of both Liverpool and Fulham during the Premier League era include Danny Murphy, Steve Finnan, Jari Litmanen, Karl Heinze-Riedle, Stan Collymore and Tony Warner.
       
      Riedle is one of three ex-Reds to have managed the club, along with Roy Evans and Kevin Keegan.
       
      Liverpool inflicted Fulham's record defeat with a 10-0 victory in a League Cup second round tie at Anfield in September 1986. Steve McMahon scored four times, with Ian Rush (2), John Wark (2) and Steve Nicol also on the scoresheet.
       
      Match stats
      By Ged Rea
       
      Head to Head: (League only)
      At Fulham: Liverpool 9 wins, Fulham 7 wins, 6 Draws.
      Overall: Liverpool 25 wins, Fulham 7 wins, 12 Draws.
       
      Last season at Craven Cottage Liverpool won 1-0 with Yossi Benayoun scoring the winner in injury time. The Reds had earlier hit the woodwork four times in the game.
       
      Their best win on this ground came in October 2004 when they won 4-2 after being two goals adrift at half-time. In that game Xabi Alonso scored his first Liverpool goal.
       
      Billy Liddell, with the help of two penalties, scored Liverpool’s only hat-trick in meetings between the sides doing so in September 1954 at Anfield.
       
      The Reds are looking for a third successive league win at Fulham for the first time in their history.
       
      Liverpool have kept a clean sheet in each of the last four league meetings since Clint Dempsey scored the only goal of the game at the Cottage in May 2007. That was Dempsey’s first goal for the London club.
       
      Fernando Torres is three goals away from recording 50 in the league for the Reds. Should he score them in the next 13 games he will have achieved the feat quicker than any other Liverpool player ever.
       
      The only Fulham player to score a hat-trick against Liverpool is Elton John's uncle Roy Dwight who did so in 1956.
       
      Fulham have won one of their last five league games - a 2-0 victory over Hull at home. However, they are unbeaten in the last three.
       
      That victory is one of two they have recorded in front of their own fans in the league this season. The other was against Everton and they have lost at home to Arsenal and Chelsea.
       
      Last weekend they came back from two goals down to draw at Manchester City.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #58: Oct 31, 2009 09:26:54 am
      Drama at the cottage: The last five

      Drama at the cottage: The last five

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/features/history/FH15229091031-0858.htm

      Fulham 0-1 Liverpool
      Premier League - April 2009
       
      A last-gasp goal from Yossi Benayoun sent Liverpool two points clear of the Barclays Premier League and had the travelling Kop singing 'We're gonna win the league'. It looked as if the afternoon would end in frustration for the Reds, who hit the woodwork four times in the first half as Craven Cottage witnessed some sublime football. The result completed another brilliant week for Liverpool as they mounted their most serious title tilt since 1990, with Steven Gerrard and Dirk Kuyt signing new contracts and monthly awards for the manager and skipper.
       
      Fulham 0-2 Liverpool
      Premier League - April 2008
       
      Liverpool went eight points clear in fourth place after goals from Jermaine Pennant and Peter Crouch gave them a comfortable 2-0 win in London. Victory was the perfect preparation for our Champions League semi-final with Chelsea, while defeat for Fulham left them perilously close to the relegation trap door.
       
      Fulham 1-0 Liverpool
      Premiership - May 2007
       
      Fulham secured Premiership survival with a 1-0 win over the Reds courtesy of a 66th minute goal from substitute Clint Dempsey. After the midweek victory over Chelsea in the Champions League semi-final, Rafael Benitez took the opportunity to rest the likes of Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Crouch and Kuyt. Emiliano Insua made his second start for the club while Robbie Fowler partnered Craig Bellamy in attack. Fowler and Bellamy both missed good chances and Argentine Gabriel Paletta had a goal disallowed but it was Fulham's day as Lawrie Sanchez guided the Cottagers to safety.
       
      Fulham 2-0 Liverpool
      Premiership - October 2005
       
      Liverpool slipped to their second league defeat of the season thanks to goals from Collins John and Luis Boa Morte. It might have been different but for the form of former Reds stopper Tony Warner, who thwarted Harry Kewell, Luis Garcia, Sami Hyypia and Djibril Cisse after coming on as a 62nd minute substitute. The game was preceded by a minute's silence for late Fulham legend Johnny Haynes.
       
      Fulham 2-4 Liverpool
      Premiership - October 2004
       
      One of the club's most memorable Premiership games during which Rafa's Reds demonstrated for the first time the bouncebackability that would bring us all so much joy in the seasons to come. Summer signing Xabi Alonso was the catalyst this time, coming on for Salif Diao following a dire first half which ended with the home side two up. Luis Boa Morte's brace was quickly made irrelevant with goals from Milan Baros, Alonso, Igor Biscan and an OG from Zat Knight. Not even a late sending off for new boy Josemi could tarnish Rafa's first away win in the league.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #59: Oct 31, 2009 09:28:14 am
      long much! thanks though a good read.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #60: Oct 31, 2009 09:32:09 am
      today is a must win otherwise last Sunday's good work goes to waste. Need to have the same work rate and attitude as this will be a tough game and Fulham will do us if we don't play up to scratch.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #61: Oct 31, 2009 09:36:56 am
      Can't wait for the game, but more importantly can't wait for the players to get fit. Was thinking about it and I dare say we have a much, much stronger starting XI than United, Chavs, and Arsenal when all our players are fit.

      Reina - probably the best keeper in the league.

      Johnson - PFA Rightback of the Year, has a long way to go but definitely a signing in the right direction.
      Carragher - Resilient, determined, strong, scouse heart, a natural leader.
      Agger - goes forward well and defends with ease. Is a superb header of the ball.
      Insua - going to be the best leftback on earth in a matter of years.

      Aquilani - Italian player who has yet to make a proper debut playing for the Reds, but I'm certain he'll come very good in our team.
      Mascherano - One of the best defensive midfielders in the world in terms of tackling, awareness, protecting the back four.

      Kuyt - our Duracell bunny. Always runs till he drops and puts in 110% in the Red shirt. You can't doubt his hard work can you?
      Gerrard - Best player in the world
      Benayoun - most underrated player in the EPL, able to string through balls and change the game in an instant. Witty, quick and forward-thinking. Creative and the ball sticks to his feet like glue.

      Torres - best bargain the club's history and the most feared striker in the world.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #62: Oct 31, 2009 10:15:42 am
      MATCH FACTS

      Head To Head

      Liverpool have not conceded against Fulham in their last four meetings.

      Clint Dempsey is the last Fulham player to score against the Merseyside club. The American netted in a 1-0 win at Craven Cottage on 5 May 2007.

      Fulham

      Fulham are looking for their second victory in six league matches.

      The Cottagers have scored in nine of their last ten league and cup matches.

      Liverpool

      Liverpool have lost their last two Premier League away matches.

      The Reds have picked up four victories in their last six league outings.

      They have this season's second best goal scoring record in the top-flight behind Arsenal having notched 24 goals in 10 Premier League matches. The Gunners have 29.

      Striker Fernando Torres has 47 league goals for Liverpool although only 13 have come away from home.

      LEADING GOALSCORERS

      Fulham

      Murphy & Zamora: 4 goals (2 league)

      Liverpool

      Torres: 9 goals (9 league)

      MOST RECENT CLASH

      Fulham 0-1 Liverpool (4 April 2009)

      Looking forward to this one. Predicting us to beat these 2-0.
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #63: Oct 31, 2009 10:15:54 am
      I have no idea what kind of team Rafa will have at his disposal but I hope they go out there from the off and play with the passion, pride and grit they showed against the Mancs.

      If they do they can beat anyone. My mindset is if we can beat the Mancs, than anyone else should be easy pickings. I hope this is the case, it's going to be tough away from home but with our away fans giving us their usual full on backing, I can see the lads being right up for this one.

      Come on you Reds, less than 5 hours to kick off.





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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #64: Oct 31, 2009 10:32:47 am
      Should be a tight game think Liverpools class will see us through
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #65: Oct 31, 2009 10:50:37 am
      Hoping for a win and confident of one . Come lads forget about the arse game and lets crush Fulham ! I know you guys can do it !

      YNWA !
      ( P.S I will not be able to watch the game as I'll be on a flight back from Hyderabad to Bangalore ....but will b pray and hoping for a win ! .....Also this wil be like the 6th or 7th game I'll be missing ...and I hate this ...I hate missing games and not being there for the them ......anyone who is going to craven cottage for the game please cheers for all of us !)
      « Last Edit: Oct 31, 2009 11:13:29 am by niksluvslfc »
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #66: Oct 31, 2009 11:10:14 am
      Fulham 1   Liverpool 3

       :aaliverpoolwz0: :kop5cf8koxp6: :drinking: :aaliverpool2xt1:
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #67: Oct 31, 2009 12:06:08 pm
      Must win today. We will go 4th if we win. If Arse draw with Spur we may even go 3rd! Come on, Reds!
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      Re: Pre Match: Fulham v Liverpool (Premier League 31/10/09 3pm)
      Reply #68: Oct 31, 2009 12:21:30 pm
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