What has gone wrong with the world of computer/video games

I have been an avid video games fan since the end of the 1970s, yes i was one of the first, i even bought a pong console.

Recently i played a war game, think it was call of duty 5, now the realism and graphics have moved on every decade.
I have always been happy about this and often craved more realism, and almost photographic graphics,

Ive played all the shooters on the planet and enjoyed them. But recently the graphics and the inbuilt morals in these games have started to concern me.

The first game that made me feel a bit sick was Grand Theft auto, (first 3d one), the fact that you could attack anyone, even old grannies and kick them on the floor until blood poored out made me take a step back.

Now it seems more and more normal to include gory graphics and no morals, what ever happened to a superhero saving the world, now days you are more likley to be a thug, doing nasty things to anybody.

What has happened to our games, who made them so sick, are we just all growing older and wiser, or is the games industry hitting the bottom of the barrell for sales and to appeal to degenerates.

i dont know, im put off playing some new titles because of this, i think its plane wrong.

GTA was, and still is, the bees knees!

You've just gotta see past the pixelated blood, because games have had violence in from the beginning.

Grand Theft Auto is actually a very good satirical look at modern society when you listen to the radio and the banter in the games. Fact is they are just games. It doesn't make you a bad person for enjoying them or anything, i for one love sitting on a building with a gun blasting in GTA. But thats because i know all im shooting is a bunch of pixels. Movies, TV, music and all parts of media these days is a lot more open, isn't just video games. Just moving with the times.

I understand not liking it, its all personal opinion. But i wouldn't necessarily call it wrong.

It seems very wrong to me. Don't forget how long some kids spend on these games, and how young minds are influenced. Agreed not all minds are influenced, i wouldnt be, but it does disgust me, it just seems wrong ... the actual task of beating somebody sensless. To me it would encourage the wrong sort of person, to copycat it and do it in real life.....because  hu! this is just like a game, there are too many morons in this world without encouraging them to do things like this.

My opinion is 1) If you do something horrible in real life and blame it on a game, then there is something wrong up in your head already. And 2) There is a reason games like GTA for example are rated for Adults Only basically. If kids younger than an understandable age are playing it then it is the parents responsibility to control them, and not let them. It should not deny perfectly level headed people like me the chance to play, as i do it purely for the fantasy of it. I mean yeah, its rough. But video games are not the reason behind the world being fu**ed up. Jack the Ripper didn't have a copy of Manhunt as his reasoning. Charles Manson didn't either. If people are fu**ed in the head, they will do something whether they play a game or not. It's up to society to recognize defects in people and try and curb any evil thoughts they might have.
If i wanna get real controversial ill even say that Religion is ten times worse than video games. How many people go crazy and lives are lost from that?

1. exactly... some peoples imagination is fanned by the blood and guts, maybe this is stopping them doing it in real life, maybe encouraging who is to say. 2. doesnt matter if its for adults, as sometimes its them who go crazy (its good that we have a ratings system, but its probably flouted ignorantly) by about 30% of parents. How long will you be level headed if you keep playing these games, will your dreams be effected, im not saying that you willl go crazy, im just asking you to think about those more weak minded than yourself, this may effect you indirectly or directly, also if you have a fantasy for blood and guts then that should ring some alarm bells in your conciousness.

I dont like religion, think its flawed but the mass majority of people who follow it, follow it for its morals, its the smaller percentage that hold grudges against other religions.

Dont you see the trend for MORE and MORE violence, not just in video games but films, people who glorify pulp fiction and casino, have to do some soul serching and ask themselves why they are attracted to this violence, and how this effects society. By seeing violence as being linked to cool, then you are being de-humumanised, you are losing your humanity.

I don't have a fantasy for blood and guts, i enjoy the fantasy of the story lines. I don't go out and buy every cheap ass game that features gratuitous violence. The only game i actually own at the moment while im in America that features anything of the sort is GTA. I enjoy a quality story about being on the other side of the law. And you know what? I love pulling out a gun in that game and blasting a whole platoon of cops to hell. BUT its a F***ing game, and i understand that. Im very against violence in real life, unless warranted. Heart breaks when i hear of a soldier killed in Iraq, or the news story of a poor local here in Oregon who went missing and later was found dead.

The point i am trying to make is people who play a game, and then get descensitized by it and go out killing, are messed up already. How anyone can blame a video game for actions are just deluded. It's an easy way of passing off the blame. In my opinion a book is as bad as a video game, as i find when im reading my imagination gets carried away and i imagine a lot worse and more realistic than what i see on Grand Theft Auto. Movies are the same, it is clear to all that these are works of fiction. Often based on things in real life, but thats the key there. They are based on things that already happened! Things that happened without the works of a video game or a movie as inspiration.

I respect what you are saying, and i agree some movies and games do go to far. But i personally love Grand Theft Auto, and see Pulp Fiction as a masterpiece of a film. It seems like you are saying these things are wrong and shouldn't be allowed, and that offends me as i love these things.
Society should look at the drug trade itself, and the illegal weapons trade itself, rather than the games and films that use these things as a basis for a story. Because that has been going on a lot longer than video games and movies, and that is what is doing the damage.

I think everyone blames GTA first and foremost.

I seem to remember bottling and stabbing people in Streets of Rage on the Mega Drive.

My opinion is 1) If you do something horrible in real life and blame it on a game, then there is something wrong up in your head already. And 2) There is a reason games like GTA for example are rated for Adults Only basically. If kids younger than an understandable age are playing it then it is the parents responsibility to control them, and not let them. It should not deny perfectly level headed people like me the chance to play, as I do it purely for the fantasy of it. I mean yeah, its rough. But video games are not the reason behind the world being fu**ed up. Jack the Ripper didn't have a copy of Manhunt as his reasoning. Charles Manson didn't either. If people are fu**ed in the head, they will do something whether they play a game or not. It's up to society to recognize defects in people and try and curb any evil thoughts they might have.

Couldn't really add any more than that. Excellent points.

To be fair, games have adult ratings for a reason.

Up to the parents whether they let their children play on them.

To be honest, most human beings have the sense to know the difference between a bit of fun on the playstation and real life.

It was only inevitable that games would break more boundaries and become more 'horrific'. Over time people become de-sensitised to games and the gaming industry would lose a whole lot of potential money if they did not take things further.

I still don't even think things are that bad. It's still nothing on what you see in films.

I don't think these slightly more shocking games should be got rid of either personally, I feel it's important, otherwise we'd be living in a world of over the top worries and political correctness.

They should make sex games.

They should make sex games.

New job for you Gow   

They should make sex games.

See robbyr, this is a prime example of the kind of guy who is crazy even without playing games.

These games aren't for kids. You can't ban violence in games or movies from adults. No proven harm is done. Even if violence is increasing in these media, who says the cause has anything to do with these media? Afterall, society itself is the main inspiration for media and arts. We all know there are plenty of things wrong in today's society that are much more likely to be a cause of increasing violence than these games or movies.

They should make sex games.

Three words, Hot Coffee Mod.

I've played some violent games I.e Hitman, Manhunt, GTA etc. But I'm perfectly fine, alot of people around my age (the 16-18 boundary) know the difference between real life and the game world, that's all that matters really. But hell, I did love manhunt. Such a good game, however I don't go around with plastic bags suffocating people, because I know the difference, which I guess is the point I'm making. Alot of young people don't get the credit they deserve, we're not all what the media portrays us to be.

There is a huge difference between kicking the F**k out of old grannies and crack heads in a game and proceeding to nick all of their money all of their money and doing it in reality.
In a game, you don't feel any emotion for the pixels coloured in formation to present a person, whereas you would with a real person. Most people can refrain from kicking in anyone that looks at you funny, but on a game it is completely meaningless.

Obviously it's morally wrong to even think about bludgeoning someones nanny, but it is only the minority of people that would then think to do it in reality. These types of people in the 'Space Invaders Generation' would probably have thought about killing aliens with sticks. They are lunatics.

They should make sex games.

... The F**k?

That's what it could be called actually, the F**k!

I'm an genius.

Alot of young people don't get the credit they deserve, we're not all what the media portrays us to be.

Apart from the beer drinking, partying, rowdy stuff though? Because i am in that stereotype, and proud of it