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      Fergie Rants (Again!!)

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      Re: Fergie Rants (Again!!)
      Reply #69: Jan 04, 2010 09:03:16 pm
      Quote from crouchinho link=topic=25991.msg546276#msg546276 date=1262638340

      What does that spell? [b
      c**t[/b]

      What ever way you look at it begrudgingly admitting it, it spells successful alcoholic whiskey nosed c**t.

      Still dislike the c**t with a passion and his Rants are something  I've grown accustomed too so no surprises there with another one to be honest.
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      Reply #70: Jan 04, 2010 09:04:43 pm
      Sorry he's not even in the same class as Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Matt Busby or Jock Stein. The man's a classless, bullying tw*t. How many times did you see the four other legends I've mentioned prowling the touchline whining about every f**king decision that goes against his team, whiniing about not getting enough added time, moaning about getting too much added time, moaning about refs in general, his supposed mind games which equates to him basically accusing other teams of cheating, remember the sh*te he came out with about Newcastle and Forest, that Keegan ended up blowing his top over.

      As for this sh*te about kids, remind me again about how he lured Ryan Giggs away from Man City? Remind me of the various numbers of kids who came through called "new Georgie Best" starting way back with Russell Beardsmore and how he treated Keith Gillespie, basically using him as a lackie to go and put Alex's bets on.

      As for him spending well, how much sh*te did he buy in his first seven years at the club, before he even won a league title, those buys have been conveniently forgotten, players like Danny Wallace, Ralph Milne and Jim Leighton.

      The media had banged on and on about him being a legend, what they don't say is how he bullied them every press conference, swore and generally bitched until he got his own way and reporters asked him 'nice' questions.

      He's a petulant, arrogant c**t!

      I can't argue with some of your points because i agree.

       Yes he's arrogant.
      Yes he's bought some crap like ive already said.
      Yes he's been a bully with players.

      However, getting Ryan Giggs to come to Old trafford was great business sense. Any manager would be proud of seeing that talent come through. If Bill Shankly saw him play, he would of done the same. That's what scouts get paid for.

      I do agree Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Matt Busby or Jock Stein wouldn't bully players like its done today. However, times have changed.

      At the end of the day you have to look what he's done over the last 20 years, which is continued success, that can't be argued no matter what you think of whiskey nose  ;D
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      Reply #71: Jan 04, 2010 09:19:45 pm
      You cant take away the Trophies and Cups. Sure he was manager of the team when they went through all those great years. 

      My point is, their are a dozen coaches in the EPL who would of done the exact same thing with the talent Ferguson had.  He is no football guru or god and his accomplishments certainly dont give him the right to criticize and blame everyone and everything except himself when he loses.  He takes all the awards,all the glory,accolades,knighthoods. But when it comes right down to the core. Ferguson is lucky. 

      Those Cups and Titles are not due to Fergusons unique gift of coaching.  They came on the backs of dozens of Footballs best players. an organization and ownership that signed all the best talent and spent whatever to get it.  Now, his club isnt spending tons of money and all of a sudden, the refs are bad, or theirs too much Injury time or not enough Injury time. If he did it all by his greatness at coaching, why isn't he top of the league by 20 points?  Certainly with the greatness of Rooney,Rio Ferdinand and Owen and Fergie being the GREATEST COACH OF ALL TIME, they should win the treble, right?

      If thats the case you could argue dozens of coaches could of done the same when Shanks / Paisley  was there. However, i know differently, they were great managers. No matter what money you have doesn't mean you're going to be successful over the next 20 years. With wise spending, good scouting, being in the right place at the right time and above all to get the best out of the players.( which Shankly and Fergie did ). If you don't believe that then go and ask Mark Hughes because i don't think he would agree with you.

      United will be lucky to win anything this year, there not good enough. The only saving grace is everybodies dropping points, so who knows??
      Bill Shankly is worthy of legendary status, not Ferguson.

      He took a second division side, transformed it into European champions within a decade. And in the process turning the tide of success within the city.

      A saying I have about Shanks is, 'built a club in a decade, toppled Everton in a day' and he did.

      Not to mention the talent he spotted. Liverpool was a production line for legends of the game, whereas Ferguson has a handful of greats in almost double the time Shanks was here.

      What did Fergie do? Spent a shitload, relied on a last minute FA Cup equaliser to keep his job and bullied his way to the top.

      What does that spell? C**t

      ;D We better agree to disagree then ;D
      You're surprised Keith? Shouldn't you be used to seeing the FA bend over and let fergie rape them by now? :D

      Yes I'm use to it, doesn't make it right though ;D
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      Reply #72: Jan 04, 2010 11:11:08 pm
      Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson let off the hook by the FA after referee 'insult' claim

      Sir Alex Ferguson will escape any FA action over his post-match comments at Old
      Trafford on Sunday.

      Although he was more annoyed with his own Manchester United side's performance in their FA Cup defeat to Leeds, he also criticised referee Chris Foy for the amount of injury time he added onto the second-half.

      Foy added five minutes but it was not enough for United to find an equaliser as they lost 1-0.

      Ferguson claimed it was an 'insult', leading to suggestions the FA might enforce the two-match touchline ban that was suspended until the end of next season following his verbal attack on Alan Wiley in October.

      However, the FA do not believe Ferguson's comments have crossed the boundaries of acceptability, meaning the Scot will face no charge, one of the few pieces of good news to emerge from the first FA Cup third round defeat in his 23 years as United boss.


      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1240559/Manchester-United-boss-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-let-hook-FA-insult-referee-claim.html

      Fergie must have some good sh*t on the FA, the only way he'll ever get banned is if he actually murders one of the officials!
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      Reply #73: Jan 04, 2010 11:18:15 pm


      Fergie must have some good sh*t on the FA, the only way he'll ever get banned is if he actually murders one of the officials!

      It does make you wonder, However, what a great postion to be in if you can get away with it. If i supported another club then the chances are i would make a song about it to  ;D. Thank God i'm not  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #74: Jan 05, 2010 04:32:28 am
      I think to be considered a "great" of the game you must demonstrate not only success but class, honor and a code of conduct which he does not exhibit. I'm sorry if you disagree, but of you know his past indiscretions, you should know that it does disrespect not just Man United, but football itself and what it is supposed to represent.  One thing I noticed after 10 months of being on this forum is that Liverpool fans will give credit when credit is deserved. If a team comes to Anfield and gives it all, and plays with class and respect the KOP will cheer opposing players, Ive seen it.

      I want to see a post game conference where he comes out and says " We played poor today, we couldn't score, the opposing team. battled and won because they played better than we did"  I dont want to hear "We should of won if the ref gave us that penanlty shot and we had 7 minutes of Injury time instead of 4, plus the ref missed too many penalties, and we should of benn given this and given that"  I dont want to hear that.  I want Ferguson to man-up and admit when his team plays poor.

      Its supposed to represent, what can only be described as a "Gang Mentality".  Our neighborhood, our men who live and work in the neighborhoods, our triumphs away from sports, success as a city and town.  I know this is old fashioned but it holds credence. This is what gave birth to the firms and hooligans and its based on your town vs my town. Our workers vs your workers.

      i think the actions of Fergie have turned people into Man U haters based on his superiority complex and his constant excuse making for poor Man U performances. I think football fans would of accepted his accomplishments if it wasn't something always, shoved down our throats. If his success was taken with humility, a sense of honor and respect fore those he has played against. He would universally be considerd and liked by Liverpool Fans and Chelsea fans.  Its the "F**k-You" I'm Alex Ferguson, that people dont want in the game. Its the "Kiss the Ring" mentality which drive us nuts. He is sneaky and coniving. He influences the FA to increase "His" standing, not the team.

      I think the game in, game out criticisms of Refs, Injury time and opposing fans and managers, make people see him as an elitist in a game which, I dare say still belongs to the working man.
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      Reply #75: Jan 05, 2010 10:52:54 am
      I think to be considered a "great" of the game you must demonstrate not only success but class, honor and a code of conduct which he does not exhibit. I'm sorry if you disagree, but of you know his past indiscretions, you should know that it does disrespect not just Man United, but football itself and what it is supposed to represent.  One thing I noticed after 10 months of being on this forum is that Liverpool fans will give credit when credit is deserved. If a team comes to Anfield and gives it all, and plays with class and respect the KOP will cheer opposing players, Ive seen it.

      I want to see a post game conference where he comes out and says " We played poor today, we couldn't score, the opposing team. battled and won because they played better than we did"  I dont want to hear "We should of won if the ref gave us that penanlty shot and we had 7 minutes of Injury time instead of 4, plus the ref missed too many penalties, and we should of benn given this and given that"  I dont want to hear that.  I want Ferguson to man-up and admit when his team plays poor.

      Its supposed to represent, what can only be described as a "Gang Mentality".  Our neighborhood, our men who live and work in the neighborhoods, our triumphs away from sports, success as a city and town.  I know this is old fashioned but it holds credence. This is what gave birth to the firms and hooligans and its based on your town vs my town. Our workers vs your workers.

      I think the actions of Fergie have turned people into Man U haters based on his superiority complex and his constant excuse making for poor Man U performances. I think football fans would of accepted his accomplishments if it wasn't something always, shoved down our throats. If his success was taken with humility, a sense of honor and respect fore those he has played against. He would universally be considerd and liked by Liverpool Fans and Chelsea fans.  Its the "F**k-You" I'm Alex Ferguson, that people dont want in the game. Its the "Kiss the Ring" mentality which drive us nuts. He is sneaky and coniving. He influences the FA to increase "His" standing, not the team.

      I think the game in, game out criticisms of Refs, Injury time and opposing fans and managers, make people see him as an elitist in a game which, I dare say still belongs to the working man.

      Good post, worth a +
      Obviously as a Man United supporter its concerning to read such a post. The bit about  I think the actions of Fergie have turned people into Man U haters based on his superiority complex and his constant excuse making for poor Man U performances. I think football fans would of accepted his accomplishments if it wasn't something always, shoved down our throats. If his success was taken with humility, a sense of honor and respect fore those he has played against. He would universally be considerd and liked by Liverpool Fans and Chelsea fans.  Its the "F**k-You" I'm Alex Ferguson, that people dont want in the game. Its the "Kiss the Ring" mentality which drive us nuts. He is sneaky and coniving. He influences the FA to increase "His" standing, not the team.
      is of concern  :-\. Its not good for the game i agree. Its his down fall. Unfortunately at his age things will never change now. For all his faults, and yes we know he has many, he will go down in the books as the most successful manager of all time because of the silverware he's brought to the club.
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      Reply #76: Jan 09, 2010 06:13:00 pm
      Not so much a rant as talking bullshit!

      Glazer debt has not tied my hands, says Sir Alex Ferguson

      Sir Alex Ferguson today launched a forthright defence of the policies of the Manchester United owners, the Glazer family, and insisted that the club's spiralling debt had no bearing on his refusal to enter the transfer market during the January window.

      The United manager was adamant he had money to spend if he so wished and said the club's plans to raise £600m via a bond issue to help tackle their £699m debt were a positive development that would strengthen the financial position.

      "The bond issue is a good thing for the club; I think anything that helps with repayment of debt is a good thing," he said. "There is debt there but it has never interrupted my plans for the team at any stage. I don't have any concerns about the financial situation. I have absolutely no issue at all with the club's finances and I am really confident about that."

      He added that his day-to-day running of the club had not been impaired by Old Trafford's burden of debt, which has increased from £540m in 2005, the year the Glazer family took control from the old plc. In the year up to June 2008 United paid £69m in interest alone.

      Despite widespread scepticism, Ferguson maintained that the first instalment of the £81m United will receive for the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid last summer is still available to him.

      "No, believe me, there is no impact," he said. "I have all the money I need; the money is available. If I wanted to buy someone, I could get the money. The concerns are down to the fact that I have not moved in the transfer market but that is nothing to do with the Glazers, it is simply because I am not going to pay £50m for a striker who is not worth it."

      In the past, Ferguson has joked that he was unconcerned by the way the Glazers have loaded United with debt because he would not be around to deal with the consequences. He has always backed the family whom he has found easier to deal with than the plc board and who, unlike Roman Abramovich at Chelsea and the Abu Dhabi United Group who run Manchester City, have not interfered in the transfer market.

      He added that he has long been suspicious of the January window. "I don't see any diamonds there," he said. "We struck lucky with Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra but it took them time to adjust. But you can't guarantee it and you are limited when you are looking for players to play in Europe [because they are cup-tied]. I don't see a player who could make a difference in terms of value and ability."


      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/08/sir-alex-ferguson-glazers-manchester-united

      Could you ever imagine one of our great managers coming out with something like that bit in bold.

      A Champagne socialist, basically saying I'm not bothered what happens to the club as the consequences will only be felt when I'm gone! I don't give a F**k about the club or its fans I'm here for me and no one else.

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      Reply #77: Jan 09, 2010 06:24:33 pm
      Good post, worth a +
      Obviously as a Man United supporter its concerning to read such a post. The bit about  I think the actions of Fergie have turned people into Man U haters based on his superiority complex and his constant excuse making for poor Man U performances. I think football fans would of accepted his accomplishments if it wasn't something always, shoved down our throats. If his success was taken with humility, a sense of honor and respect fore those he has played against. He would universally be considerd and liked by Liverpool Fans and Chelsea fans.  Its the "F**k-You" I'm Alex Ferguson, that people dont want in the game. Its the "Kiss the Ring" mentality which drive us nuts. He is sneaky and coniving. He influences the FA to increase "His" standing, not the team.
      is of concern  :-\. Its not good for the game I agree. Its his down fall. Unfortunately at his age things will never change now. For all his faults, and yes we know he has many, he will go down in the books as the most successful manager of all time because of the silverware he's brought to the club.

      Sorry Keith, we have hated your team long before he arrived. Ron Atkinson even had his own Spitting Image puppet.
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      Reply #78: Jan 09, 2010 06:41:12 pm
      Sorry Keith, we have hated your team long before he arrived. Ron Atkinson even had his own Spitting Image puppet.

      Yeah remember the violence before, during and after both the FA Cup semi-final at Goodison and the replay at Maine Road in 1985.
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      Reply #79: Jan 10, 2010 12:00:28 pm
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      Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson criticised the decision to send off Darren Fletcher in the 1-1 draw with Birmingham on Saturday.

      Fletcher was booked in the first half for a rash tackle on Lee Bowyer but the foul on Cameron Jerome that earned him a second yellow looked less clear-cut.

      "Darren's not that type of player. I thought it was a terribly soft sending-off, he's barely clipped him," he said.

      "The boy was already falling. I don't think you'll see a softer sending off."

      But although Ferguson was unhappy with referee Mark Clattenburg's handling of the Fletcher incident, the Scot insisted the official had been correct to award Scott Dann's own goal.
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8450361.stm
       

      The guys a schizo!
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      Reply #80: Jan 10, 2010 12:02:23 pm
      Every time they lose, he'll criticise.

      Every F***ing time.

      Is anything done about it?

      No.

      Will there ever be anything done about it?

      Probably not.
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      Reply #81: Jan 10, 2010 07:00:52 pm
      The FA are sure to throw the book at him this time.

      NOT!

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