The Magic Button. Liverpools #1 Problem Corrected.

Apparantly this is team in need of more than one thing to correct our problems.  But, I am curious what everyone thinks is the #1 problem.

If you had the oppurtunity to push a button which would completely correct one problem. What would it be?  New Player?, Stadium? Delete all debt and financial concerns?  New Ownership? New Coach?

You can only push the button once and only correct one problem.



For me.  I would erase all debt.

The debt would be less of a concern if those 2 pr**ks coughed up some cash for transfer targets to be got. And I mean proper top class signings not kids or 2nd rate players or loan deals

Actually our number 1 problem corrected would be those 2 clearing off

Hicks and Gillett.
(Half each)

The number one problem is them scumbag owner's that dont invest any money at all,and do nothing but cause problem's.

Easy the owners

Simple, owners!

Buy more buttons.

I'd get rid of Twit and Tw*t.

Vote added.

It was a question I wanted to ask on the website but the sheer number of non-reds who visit the site would skew any results.

So the forum is a better place.

My personal view is that the owners have to go. I'm not even intrinsically opposed to some form of debt, although not on the club. I am aware that we all buy our houses for instance basically on loans.

What isn't acceptable is that owners choose to purchase a club and then basically mortgage the future of the club on loans. The loans to buy the club should be 100% their risk.

New owners can come in and take as much debt on as they like, but it has to be in their name.

So, new owners for me.

If we woke up tomorrow and the pair in charge had been replaced then I think the whole spirit of this club and its fans all over the world would completely change in a heart-beat.

New owners for me.

If lets say a rich Arabian company was to buy out the two clowns, they would have no problem taking care of the debt.

This club is a goldmine, a win win situation IMO. Its only a matter of time before a takeover happens, we'll just have to grin and bare H&G for a tad bit longer.

I chose debt for the reason that it would technically solve all the problems at once. W/out Debt the owners are free to spend, free to spend means new players, Happy Rafa,  a new stadium, increased revenue and hopefully winning. Just getting rid of H&G, means they are gone BUT the debt is still their and were still financially fu**ed.

If I knew that the departure of H&G would take ALL the debt with it, then surely I would choose new ownership. But the selling of the team is going to come at a cost and that cost is not going to be paid fully by H&G. Their departure is going to mean that any losses incurred STAY at Liverpool and the get to walk with their a portion of their Initial Investment.  Lets face facts, their is no way they are going to sell the team, in such a way that erases the debt and makes them a profit.

I chose debt for the reason that it would technically solve all the problems at once. W/out Debt the owners are free to spend, free to spend means new players, Happy Rafa,  a new stadium, increased revenue and hopefully winning. Just getting rid of H&G, means they are gone BUT the debt is still their and were still financially fu**ed.

If I knew that the departure of H&G would take ALL the debt with it, then surely I would choose new ownership. But the selling of the team is going to come at a cost and that cost is not going to be paid fully by H&G. Their departure is going to mean that any losses incurred STAY at Liverpool and the get to walk with their a portion of their Initial Investment.  Lets face facts, their is no way they are going to sell the team, in such a way that erases the debt and makes them a profit.

Before Roman Abramovich took over Chelsea they were in debt of about £75- £100 million. He took on that debt, took a chance by producing money to the manager for transfers and it paid off, they won silverware and are now practically debt free.

I know our debt is way above what Abramovich took on but its just a matter of a longer period of time in our case. As i have said before this club is a goldmine, a couple of class additions to the squad and we could achieve all sorts of honours.

New Owners, bit of a no brainer,

New owners = No Debt = New players = New Stadium = Happy Manager, players and fans = Trophies

Simples

New owners!

I said no debt, because I'd want to take as much of H & G's money as I could before we kick them to the curb.

I think with no debt, Saudi Princes would be lining up to purchase this club

I said new stadium.

New owners would be great but who's to say the new owners would clear 227m in debt straight away?

I think a new stadium would help revenue, reduce debt and we can see more money for players.

I said no debt, because I'd want to take as much of H & G's money as I could before we kick them to the curb.

I think with no debt, Saudi Princes would be lining up to purchase this club

I voted exactly the same for exactly the same reasons. 

I vote no debt.   Without the debt the other things on the list are achievable

Before I add my vote I will boldly predict the first 100% in favour poll towards the new owners answer

EDIT: Well well well I was wrong. 2 think a stadium is our number 1 problem 

Before I add my vote I will boldly predict the first 100% in favour poll towards the new owners answer

  Ooops.

Got to be the two lying bas**rds who conned their way into getting their hands on our club , this season has been a nightmare because of the side effects of having to use your transfer budget to actually buy ourselves , how have they have got away with it , the bas**rds should be locked up.

New Owners for me... I don't get this Hicks & Gillet would spend if they did not have to make debt re-payments...they could spend their own money to pay off their own loans..yet they use the money the club generates. So If all debt was paid off, I could see them getting another loan for the stadium and yet more money disappearing from the club coffers for interest repayments on that.

If we woke up tomorrow and the pair in charge had been replaced then I think the whole spirit of this club and its fans all over the world would completely change in a heart-beat.

Agreed.

Has to be new owners can't understand people picking erasing the debt ahead of this, all that would happen with our current owners if the debt was erased would be they would put more debt on us and don't be suprised like Utd if you see our Debts rise to alarming rates if these clowns remain.

The owners!!  No question!

We can only acheive new owners if our club was debt free that would enable all other projects like new stadium,player budgets much easier.
Just imagine our club debt free all the money from gate reciepts,player sales,sponsorships,mechandise sales,tv money and champions leauge money could be used for building a better squad and toward building a new stadium.
What the pricks in charge need to do is F**k off or turn the club debt into equity.

I said new stadium.

New owners would be great but who's to say the new owners would clear 227m in debt straight away?

I think a new stadium would help revenue, reduce debt and we can see more money for players.

A new stadium would help revenue....and put more money into the pockets of those greedy cu*ts.  More money for players? Not with those two in charge.

New Owners, bit of a no brainer,

New owners = No Debt = New players = New Stadium = Happy Manager, players and fans = Trophies

Simples

Seems the most logical to me

1. New Owners
2. Erase Debt    
3. New Player
4. New Stadium
5. New Manager    

Getting rid of the owners for me
With any luck, that'd then lead to less debt and maybe the new stadium

3 birds with 1 stone   

For me it has to be erasing off the debt.That is the main hindrance in our progress as we can't invest in new players,can't even think about building the new stadium and it's the main reason why we haven't been able to find any new owners as well.

New owners would also have been a good option to vote but what's the guarantee they won't be as crooked as the current ones are.

Get rid of Zig and Zag. Problem solved.

Ok who pressed the new manager button?bas**rds 1.2% of the votes.
New owners unless we see all the $570 million hicks has in his back pocket spent on are club.

Now the Owners have US One Billion from the Canadiens and the Rangers they have the opportunity to pay off the debt.
My vote  remains New Owners .....until they show us what they are going to do with the money.

Get rid of Dumb and Dumber. They're the main reason that lead to all our problems.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

Anyone seen this hot potato?!


UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

Anyone seen this hot potato?!


UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?

Yeah there's a thread in the General Football forum.

Yeah there's a thread in the General Football forum.

Thanks.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

Anyone seen this hot potato?!


UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?

That would be the worst thing UEFA could do.  Penalize the players because the owners or Board Members cant balance the books or spend properly.  That just goes to show how "Business" is slowly taking control of the game and its all out of the hands of the players.

Any qualification or non qualification for the CL should come strictly on the backs of the players and the game itself. This just will lead to corruption and payoffs in UEFA like the S.American Clubs,Leagues or the Olympic Committee.  It just stinks of politics and backroom gladhanding.

Interesting vote results.

new owners.. hmm. ok

they provide money and all.. but do you guys expect rafa to go and sign the likes of Silva, Iniesta, Higuain and Aguero??

i don't think so.. it's set in stone that we have to endure the awesomeness of Lucas and Kuyt.. week in.. week out.

I'd say forget it. Forget about new players. Really, it hurts to be in the situation we are in.

For the Yanks to leave, the new stadium has to be built. Think about it, no new owner will be willing to take on the club's debt. The buyers won't bite, and the sellers won't sell, simply because in this market, the Yanks cannot flip their investment for a profit. Capital expenditure, or asset enhancement is a must for them to make a neat and tidy profit, hence the new stadium.

But sad to say, any available funds will go to "enhancing" their selling price, which is the new stadium, and future income driven by ticketing revenue. Ask them to buy players who are assets that will depreciate in value over time??? Forget it.

Welcome to private equity investment. We are being treated like an object of investment. There are no emotions. If it is time to strip their investment bare, you bet they will. Sack the manager, sell our best players, they will do all it takes to make money out of us. When the new stadium is up, they will leave at a good price. As the principle of investment goes, there is no investment that one can hold forever. At the right price, the savvy investor will sell out.

The days of teams being owned by Local businessmen or local investors are LONG gone. It used to be that the structure of the club from the coaching staff, board members,players, owners, groundscrew were all local men and women who first and foremost were fans of the club.

Now its strictly trading stock and making investments. Our Owners dont know the history of the club they own, they dont spend everyday at the stadium trying to build a team and make it worthy of being called Liverpool Football Club.  It is a line in a accounting ledger and treated as such.  Thats what sport is missing.  I dont think their is one person on this forum if given the chance and the money to buy this club wouldn't jump at the chance because they Love the team, not because they need an Investment.

1 person voted manager

idiot

I put rid the debt, but realised new owners is needed.

Need owners that want to be at the club

Someone voted new manager before getting new owners in, some people havn't got a clue.

i don't think so.. it's set in stone that we have to endure the awesomeness of Lucas and Kuyt.. week in.. week out.

Listen sivpac, i'm not the biggest fan of either player but i'm getting well fu**ed off by your tiresome crusade. Every time i open a thread (on whatever subject) i end up reading the same drivel from you. I get it, i think we all get it; you don't like Rafa, Lucas or Kuyt - you've made it clear - time to let go.

Surely there's more to you, (sivpac, the person), than this?  

I voted for new stadium, as this would greatly increase that amount of revenue coming into the club on a weekly basis.  Over a year this would be a significant amount of money.  clearing the debt would be great, but unless we found new ways of increasing everyday revenues, then we would slowly build up debt again, as new better players cost more to buy and also you have to pay them more over the term of their contract.  unless the revenue coming into the club on a daily basis increases, then this cannot happen.  we cannot spend more money each season than the maximum income that is coming in!! this will result in another build up of debt.

Listen sivpac, i'm not the biggest fan of either player but i'm getting well fu**ed off by your tiresome crusade. Every time i open a thread (on whatever subject) i end up reading the same drivel from you. I get it, i think we all get it; you don't like Rafa, Lucas or Kuyt - you've made it clear - time to let go.

Surely there's more to you, (sivpac, the person), than this? 

He's just a pain in the arse campaigning against the manager, the ironic thing is the players he chooses to incessantly criticise which is by the way the reason he has not heard about their improved form - look like being a credit to Mr Benitez and his foresight and footballing acumen.

Daft Question. There is no magic Button.

But out of those things the Owners need to get thier finances sorted and get the stadium built.

No magic button and the poll tells a story in that the blame is at the owners feet and so say all of us! (well as good as)

He's just a pain in the arse campaigning against the manager, the ironic thing is the players he chooses to incessantly criticise which is by the way the reason he has not heard about their improved form - look like being a credit to Mr Benitez and his foresight and footballing acumen.

Funny thing is everyone who is against Benitez just cant wait to get rid of him but, can never come up with a replacement.

Funny thing is everyone who is against Benitez just cant wait to get rid of him but, can never come up with a replacement.

Is correct mate they do not have the clubs' well being in mind so can offer no solutions.

New owners could solve all of those problems stated, iif they were to be as fifthly rich as the Manchester City owners are..