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      The Magic Button. Liverpools #1 Problem Corrected.

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      mikastoo
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      Re: The Magic Button. Liverpools #1 Problem Corrected.
      Reply #23: Jan 23, 2010 11:33:22 am
      The owners!!  No question!
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      Reply #24: Jan 23, 2010 12:02:14 pm
      We can only acheive new owners if our club was debt free that would enable all other projects like new stadium,player budgets much easier.
      Just imagine our club debt free all the money from gate reciepts,player sales,sponsorships,mechandise sales,tv money and champions leauge money could be used for building a better squad and toward building a new stadium.
      What the pricks in charge need to do is F**k off or turn the club debt into equity.
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      Reply #25: Jan 23, 2010 01:18:02 pm
      I said new stadium.

      New owners would be great but who's to say the new owners would clear 227m in debt straight away?

      I think a new stadium would help revenue, reduce debt and we can see more money for players.

      A new stadium would help revenue....and put more money into the pockets of those greedy cu*ts.  More money for players? Not with those two in charge.
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      Reply #26: Jan 23, 2010 01:51:27 pm
      New Owners, bit of a no brainer,

      New owners = No Debt = New players = New Stadium = Happy Manager, players and fans = Trophies

      Simples

      Seems the most logical to me ;D
      Ross
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      Re: The Magic Button. Liverpools #1 Problem Corrected.
      Reply #27: Jan 23, 2010 01:55:55 pm
      1. New Owners
      2. Erase Debt    
      3. New Player
      4. New Stadium
      5. New Manager    
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      Reply #28: Jan 23, 2010 03:50:18 pm
      Getting rid of the owners for me
      With any luck, that'd then lead to less debt and maybe the new stadium

      3 birds with 1 stone   :D
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      Reply #29: Jan 23, 2010 04:31:44 pm
      For me it has to be erasing off the debt.That is the main hindrance in our progress as we can't invest in new players,can't even think about building the new stadium and it's the main reason why we haven't been able to find any new owners as well.

      New owners would also have been a good option to vote but what's the guarantee they won't be as crooked as the current ones are.
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      Reply #30: Jan 24, 2010 02:46:17 am
      Get rid of Zig and Zag. Problem solved.
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      Reply #31: Jan 24, 2010 09:07:20 am
      Ok who pressed the new manager button?bas**rds 1.2% of the votes.
      New owners unless we see all the $570 million hicks has in his back pocket spent on are club.
      MIRO
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      Reply #32: Jan 24, 2010 09:30:06 am
      Now the Owners have US One Billion from the Canadiens and the Rangers they have the opportunity to pay off the debt.
      My vote  remains New Owners .....until they show us what they are going to do with the money.
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      Re: The Magic Button. Liverpools #1 Problem Corrected.
      Reply #33: Jan 24, 2010 10:12:04 am
      Get rid of Dumb and Dumber. They're the main reason that lead to all our problems.
      MIRO
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      Reply #34: Jan 24, 2010 10:51:37 am
      http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

      Anyone seen this hot potato?!


      UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
      On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

      Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



      Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?
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      Reply #35: Jan 24, 2010 04:42:36 pm
      http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

      Anyone seen this hot potato?!


      UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
      On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

      Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



      Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?

      Yeah there's a thread in the General Football forum.
      MIRO
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      Reply #36: Jan 24, 2010 09:48:58 pm
      Yeah there's a thread in the General Football forum.

      Thanks.
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      Reply #37: Jan 25, 2010 04:54:29 am
      http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5877650,00.html

      Anyone seen this hot potato?!


      UEFA are hoping to bring in some serious rules about CL qualification.
      On our current debt (and also Chavs/Mankers) no matter what Rafa does we STILL may not qualify unless we sort the debt problems out.

      Is this the real reason that the Glazers did a Bond Issue to pay off the "bank" debt.



      Where's this ship headed Cap'n Jack?
      That would be the worst thing UEFA could do.  Penalize the players because the owners or Board Members cant balance the books or spend properly.  That just goes to show how "Business" is slowly taking control of the game and its all out of the hands of the players.

      Any qualification or non qualification for the CL should come strictly on the backs of the players and the game itself. This just will lead to corruption and payoffs in UEFA like the S.American Clubs,Leagues or the Olympic Committee.  It just stinks of politics and backroom gladhanding.
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      Reply #38: Jan 25, 2010 08:42:16 am
      Interesting vote results.
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      Reply #39: Jan 25, 2010 08:54:30 am
      new owners.. hmm. ok

      they provide money and all.. but do you guys expect rafa to go and sign the likes of Silva, Iniesta, Higuain and Aguero??

      i don't think so.. it's set in stone that we have to endure the awesomeness of Lucas and Kuyt.. week in.. week out.
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      Reply #40: Jan 25, 2010 10:40:07 am
      I'd say forget it. Forget about new players. Really, it hurts to be in the situation we are in.

      For the Yanks to leave, the new stadium has to be built. Think about it, no new owner will be willing to take on the club's debt. The buyers won't bite, and the sellers won't sell, simply because in this market, the Yanks cannot flip their investment for a profit. Capital expenditure, or asset enhancement is a must for them to make a neat and tidy profit, hence the new stadium.

      But sad to say, any available funds will go to "enhancing" their selling price, which is the new stadium, and future income driven by ticketing revenue. Ask them to buy players who are assets that will depreciate in value over time??? Forget it.

      Welcome to private equity investment. We are being treated like an object of investment. There are no emotions. If it is time to strip their investment bare, you bet they will. Sack the manager, sell our best players, they will do all it takes to make money out of us. When the new stadium is up, they will leave at a good price. As the principle of investment goes, there is no investment that one can hold forever. At the right price, the savvy investor will sell out.
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      Reply #41: Jan 25, 2010 04:54:51 pm
      The days of teams being owned by Local businessmen or local investors are LONG gone. It used to be that the structure of the club from the coaching staff, board members,players, owners, groundscrew were all local men and women who first and foremost were fans of the club.

      Now its strictly trading stock and making investments. Our Owners dont know the history of the club they own, they dont spend everyday at the stadium trying to build a team and make it worthy of being called Liverpool Football Club.  It is a line in a accounting ledger and treated as such.  Thats what sport is missing.  I dont think their is one person on this forum if given the chance and the money to buy this club wouldn't jump at the chance because they Love the team, not because they need an Investment.
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      Reply #42: Jan 26, 2010 01:04:39 am
      1 person voted manager

      idiot

      I put rid the debt, but realised new owners is needed.

      Need owners that want to be at the club
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      Reply #43: Jan 26, 2010 01:42:50 am
      Someone voted new manager before getting new owners in, some people havn't got a clue.
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      Reply #44: Jan 26, 2010 09:53:34 am
      i don't think so.. it's set in stone that we have to endure the awesomeness of Lucas and Kuyt.. week in.. week out.

      Listen sivpac, i'm not the biggest fan of either player but i'm getting well fu**ed off by your tiresome crusade. Every time i open a thread (on whatever subject) i end up reading the same drivel from you. I get it, i think we all get it; you don't like Rafa, Lucas or Kuyt - you've made it clear - time to let go.

      Surely there's more to you, (sivpac, the person), than this?  :-\
      « Last Edit: Jan 26, 2010 10:05:33 am by bad boy bubby »
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      Reply #45: Jan 26, 2010 10:28:48 am
      I voted for new stadium, as this would greatly increase that amount of revenue coming into the club on a weekly basis.  Over a year this would be a significant amount of money.  clearing the debt would be great, but unless we found new ways of increasing everyday revenues, then we would slowly build up debt again, as new better players cost more to buy and also you have to pay them more over the term of their contract.  unless the revenue coming into the club on a daily basis increases, then this cannot happen.  we cannot spend more money each season than the maximum income that is coming in!! this will result in another build up of debt.

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