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      "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail

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      "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Feb 21, 2010 01:13:17 pm
      This is on a good few media outlets this morning. It is an astonishing figure if true, would I trust our clowns of owners to turn it down, I doubt it.

      If it happened I could see our manager who i don't think would be Rafa because he couldn't stay if it happened been given about £50 million to spend with the rest going to the money owed to RBS.

      Scary times for the club i see Chelsea and City been linked to Superstar players while the only speculation with us now seems to be who we will sell
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #1: Feb 21, 2010 01:15:51 pm
      Thought this link started from NOTW?
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      Reply #2: Feb 21, 2010 01:16:05 pm
      Its been on every F***ing sunday and I'm F***ing sick of it there is no evidence to the story and not once has man city openly talked about signing stevie or nando.... It's just pure speculation and just a typical tabloid bullshit... To me its same sh*t different day...
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      Reply #3: Feb 21, 2010 01:17:30 pm
      That made my day :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #4: Feb 21, 2010 01:18:32 pm
      It is on the rag but the daily mail is carrying it as well wouldn't have put it on if it was just NOTW.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #5: Feb 21, 2010 01:23:28 pm
      just trying to sh*t-stir before the match IMO...Nando wont leave, neither will Stevie, & if Nando goes, so does Rafa
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #6: Feb 21, 2010 01:27:39 pm
      Scary times indeed mate it doesn't bear thinking about.
      It would be asset stripping on a grand scale and the reaction from the supporters is unimaginable, there'd be fighting in the street and massive protest against the owners who would have succeeded in dismantling LFC.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #7: Feb 21, 2010 01:28:42 pm
      from the NOTW and the Mail is a rag. Next...
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      Reply #8: Feb 21, 2010 01:29:05 pm
      They can have Lucas and Degen for £ 140 million.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #9: Feb 21, 2010 01:39:15 pm
      id take it if i felt Rafa would get to spend it - fed up with fernando and his injuries
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #10: Feb 21, 2010 01:41:20 pm
      False


      Next........
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #11: Feb 21, 2010 01:47:34 pm
      Yawn

      Oh and do they think they could get Stevie for free? Coz Nanado is worth 140 on his own
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #12: Feb 21, 2010 01:47:37 pm
      Tabloids are only for wiping your arse on
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      Reply #13: Feb 21, 2010 01:53:31 pm
      Yawn

      Oh and do they think they could get Stevie for free? Coz Nanado is worth 140 on his own


      when he is actually playing and fully fit - how often has that been over the past 2 years?
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #14: Feb 21, 2010 01:58:22 pm
      If Rafa or next manager could have all the money from the deal would it be such a no no , I would hate to see them go but we could maybe bring 4/5 top quality players in and move forward , the point is what's the use of having Gerrard /Torres if we never have them both fit for long enough to get the best out of them and when they do play together there is no one with the quality to supply them with Gerrard often dropping deeper to get the ball and leavin Nando isolated , with 140m you could bring in two top drawer forwards plus a winger and a decent playmaker , in the past we have lost decent players and gone on to better things , Ian Rush went to Juve and was replaced by Barnes/Aldo/ Beardsley and we went from a team relient on one man to a far more attacking force and played some of the best football I have ever seen , so if you look at the bigger picture would it be such a disaster.
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      Reply #15: Feb 21, 2010 01:59:42 pm

      when he is actually playing and fully fit - how often has that been over the past 2 years?
      The transfer fee Torres could command right now makes your comments questionable to say the least.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #16: Feb 21, 2010 02:08:29 pm
      i'd say to city, pay up 300 million and you can have both. Otherwise, f*ck off
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #17: Feb 21, 2010 02:12:16 pm
      OK.

      Why today?

      Before the game?




      Drawbridge up again Ladies and Gentlemen.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #18: Feb 21, 2010 02:26:59 pm
      Just typical of a bull-sh*t rag with bull-sh*t speculation, These Ring-wipers are soley for those bleary eyed F**k-pigs who have nothing better to read on a Sunday, If you take it seriously then you deserve all you get IMO,Normally you would just laugh this off but its just not even funny.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #19: Feb 21, 2010 02:31:02 pm
      Ummm...

      No.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #20: Feb 21, 2010 02:36:16 pm
      :lmao:
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      Reply #21: Feb 21, 2010 02:41:28 pm
      OK.

      Why today?

      Before the game?




      Drawbridge up again Ladies and Gentlemen.
      Nail on the head mate.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #22: Feb 21, 2010 02:55:40 pm
      They can have Lucas and Degen for £ 140 million.
      I would shake on that
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #23: Feb 21, 2010 03:54:20 pm
      Heard this story about 100 times since they got the new owners. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #24: Feb 21, 2010 06:12:08 pm
      First heard this on the commentary of the game before, best joke I've heard all day.

      Simple answer is, tell the Man City owner to shut it or we'll send Yossi to his hotel room!
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      Reply #25: Feb 21, 2010 06:16:02 pm
      Simple answer is, tell the Man City owner to shut it or we'll send Yossi to his hotel room!
      :lmao:
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #26: Feb 21, 2010 06:18:07 pm
      Ok lets be serious for a minute:

      When Man-City got rich, their deluded owner had a wish-list of players, this included:

      Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Terry, Kaka, Ronaldo


      Who they actually got:

      Tevez, Barry, Lescott, Santa Cruz, Robinho

      No world class player in their right mind would go to man city- I was surprised Tevez signed- Now being their main man!

      Torres & Gerrard are not going anywhere,  Win or Lose, Champions league football or not!!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #27: Feb 21, 2010 06:28:29 pm
      When Man-City got rich, their deluded owner had a wish-list of players, this included:

      Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Terry, Kaka, Ronaldo


      Who they actually got:

      Tevez, Barry, Lescott, Santa Cruz, Robinho

      Very good point.

      And after Masch's recent statement, I'm sure Gerrard, Torres and the rest of the Prem's right minded players would agree entirely. City are building a team full of mercanaries. Which is why they're so inconsistent in my opinion.
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      Reply #28: Feb 21, 2010 06:38:51 pm
      Exactly- Hardly a Chelsea in the making!
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      Reply #29: Feb 21, 2010 06:45:53 pm
      ...and Robinho is making a bid to exit (back to his own club he's on loan to) for next season...... xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #30: Feb 21, 2010 06:49:38 pm
      id take it if I felt Rafa would get to spend it - fed up with fernando and his injuries

      Yeah, OK. Beat it.
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      Reply #31: Feb 21, 2010 06:58:58 pm
      Everyone can dream! :D

      Huyton Red - Whats with Yossi to do with hotel room?
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      Reply #32: Feb 21, 2010 07:01:15 pm
      Everyone can dream! :D

      Huyton Red - Whats with Yossi to do with hotel room?

      It's a joke - Yossi is Israeli and the Man City owner is from the Middle-East!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #33: Feb 21, 2010 07:02:02 pm
      F**k. The. Hell. Off.

      What a load of bullshit.
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      Reply #34: Feb 21, 2010 07:05:30 pm
      Utter s**t. Stevie and Nando play for pride, not for money so City can stick their £140 million. ;)
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      Reply #35: Feb 21, 2010 07:10:47 pm
      It's a joke - Yossi is Israeli and the Man City owner is from the Middle-East!

      Oh right. Get it now :)
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #36: Feb 21, 2010 07:17:05 pm
      If this even has an shread of truth, I dont think stevie will go, hes getting on to 29 now so realisticly hes only got another 2/3 seasons of top form in him now, and as for nando, obviously theres going to be less commitment because hes not been her as long and didnt grow up in liverpool, but as can be seen by his off and on the pitch attitude it will take a hell of a lot to prise him away.

      The fans wont let them go, Rafa wont let them go, however the yanks... I dont even want to talk about it
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      Reply #37: Feb 21, 2010 07:29:59 pm
      The yanks can go 'skrew' themselves - sell our world class players not a chance, we might as well shut up shop and close the shankly gates...not happening NADA !!!!!
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      Reply #38: Feb 21, 2010 08:20:35 pm
      The yanks can go 'skrew' themselves - sell our world class players not a chance, we might as well shut up shop and close the shankly gates...not happening NADA !!!!!

      Don't be to sure though!

      Why do you think Alonso was really sold?
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #39: Feb 21, 2010 08:40:31 pm
      Decent red said to me in the pub today why not sell them buy say Villa and 2 or 3 others he mentioned, Sounded good

      EXCEPT THE YANKS WANT THE MONEY FOR THEM NOT TO BUILD OUR SQUAD!!!!!!!!!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #40: Feb 21, 2010 09:38:50 pm
      I never believe anything reported in newspapers that concerns Liverpool Football club's manager or playing staff, as it's usually biased crap.However, the gobsh*te owners are currently under pressure to repay £100 M of the £237M debt before the refincing deadline in July.Despite numerous rumours,investors are not rushing to throw in the £100M for a minority stake in the club,and this is unlikely to change before that deadline.Royal Bank of Scotland are unlikely to totally refinance the whole £237M debt,this would mean H&G having to cough up £50m each in order to hold on to the club.On past performance that's not going to happen.The only other way to raise the money would be to sell off a couple of our biggest assets for enough money to reduce the debt by £100m and to have some money left over for rafa to buy "replacements".No coincidence then that the rumoured offer is £140M? Makes you wonder if discussions have already taken place at Boardroom level?Never trust a gobsh*te,especially when they're cornered with no other escape route.
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      Reply #41: Feb 21, 2010 09:51:39 pm
      To all fellow Liverpool supporters, dismiss this rumour at your peril. It's a well known fact that £100 million has to be paid by the end of March to RBS. The Yank cu*ts have no intention of dipping into their own pockets, they never have and never will. They are the owners and they have the final say on anything, this thought sends shivers down my spine. Anyone know any snipers?
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      Reply #42: Feb 22, 2010 12:17:16 pm
      Decent red said to me in the pub today why not sell them buy say Villa and 2 or 3 others he mentioned, Sounded good

      EXCEPT THE YANKS WANT THE MONEY FOR THEM NOT TO BUILD OUR SQUAD!!!!!!!!!

      The only problem with Villa is he is getting on abit now, i mean a 28 year old world class striker shouldnt be turned down, but not at the loss of Torres because theres at least 2/3 more years of play in him, even if he is really injury prone

      An Torres is a proven EPL goalscorer, hes the fastest red to get to 50 goals, cant complain about that where as Villa, allbeit a world class goal scorer in a top league like spain but as we have all seen the premiership is a compeltly different ball game (excuse the pun ;)). Top players can flop (Robhino, Veron even Forlan) so i dont think the risk is worth taking... that in mind i doubt this has any truth behind it, but thats my two cents anyway  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #43: Feb 22, 2010 12:50:29 pm
      To all fellow Liverpool supporters, dismiss this rumour at your peril. It's a well known fact that £100 million has to be paid by the end of March to RBS. The Yank cu*ts have no intention of dipping into their own pockets, they never have and never will. They are the owners and they have the final say on anything, this thought sends shivers down my spine.
      Exactly, well said. This is a very real threat. Gerrard and Torres can say as many times as they want that they are committed to LFC but if the owners say they are to be sold, that's that.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #44: Feb 22, 2010 01:33:51 pm
      The only problem with Villa is he is getting on abit now, i mean a 28 year old world class striker shouldnt be turned down, but not at the loss of Torres because theres at least 2/3 more years of play in him, even if he is really injury prone

      An Torres is a proven EPL goalscorer, hes the fastest red to get to 50 goals, cant complain about that where as Villa, allbeit a world class goal scorer in a top league like spain but as we have all seen the premiership is a compeltly different ball game (excuse the pun ;)). Top players can flop (Robhino, Veron even Forlan) so i dont think the risk is worth taking... that in mind i doubt this has any truth behind it, but thats my two cents anyway  :f_tongueincheek:
      Even though this isn't going to happen I believe, I think if it came down to choosing anyone or Villa, then I would certainly sign Aguero.
      I think he's a gun and would love to see him partnering Nando!
      But forget it, our 2 main weapons aren't going anywhere.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #45: Feb 22, 2010 01:34:55 pm
      Every.....single......we ek

      This sh*t story comes up!
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      Reply #46: Feb 22, 2010 02:37:29 pm
       we end up in 7th can see this happening what with our debt load. it might be a blessing in disguise gerrad has definately playing not like his old self the stats dont lie. next season might be worse stat wise players have a certain time frame we could be selling him at his peak. players want to transfer if there club is not winning big trophies. torres might feel different about the reds if they drop to 7th. believe his injuries will start to take a toll on his stats. so we might be selling at his peak. just an opinion could be right might be wrong
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #47: Feb 22, 2010 03:05:26 pm
      Decent red said to me in the pub today why not sell them buy say Villa and 2 or 3 others he mentioned, Sounded good

      EXCEPT THE YANKS WANT THE MONEY FOR THEM NOT TO BUILD OUR SQUAD!!!!!!!!!

      Even if they allowed Rafa to spend the money on the team (I think we all know thats not gonna happen BUT if they did) all the top players would instantly be priced out by their clubs because they will know lfc have money to spend. Its the way it always is.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #48: Feb 22, 2010 03:34:48 pm
      I dont understand why the yanks dont sell!!!

      I mean they dont care about the club- No passion,
      They have no intrest in investing,
      Everybody hates them,
      We are not doing as well as we could be, Lots of debt-   Why not sell and move on to some bullshit yank team?

      As with Torres and Gerrard- i understand the owners have the final say (which makes me feel sick!) but i dont think they would dare sell them- I mean there are protests already to get them out- Imagine if they sold our star players!!?  It would be manic to say the least!

      I personally believe alot of newspapers make this crap up because there is nothing else to say about our club- they have these pages to fill every single day- i will believe either of them want to leave when i see them in a different shirt!!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #49: Feb 22, 2010 04:30:05 pm
      Doesn't a player also have to agree to the transfer too? Owners can accept any bid for players they want, but at the end of the day its up to the player if he wants to leave or not!
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #50: Feb 22, 2010 04:34:23 pm
      Doesn't a player also have to agree to the transfer too? Owners can accept any bid for players they want, but at the end of the day its up to the player if he wants to leave or not!

      The threat of playing in the reserves might force them out.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #51: Feb 22, 2010 04:35:38 pm
      Yeah. Not much point of the player staying if he is regarded as 'not needed by the club'.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #52: Feb 22, 2010 06:25:53 pm
      The two in question may not be needed by the yanks as they will desperatley want the cash. But there is no way they would leave whilst under contract as they both know how much they are wanted by the 'club'. i.e. Manager and Fans. I think if the yanks forced a sale of these two, they wouldn't dare enter the country again, let alone Anfield.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #53: Feb 22, 2010 06:34:47 pm
      Everywhere i look Man City are linked with big players not just Gerrard & Torres so this dont bother me much.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #54: Feb 22, 2010 06:57:43 pm
      How about they build our new stadium......










      and then F**K OFF
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #55: Feb 22, 2010 06:58:12 pm
      How about they build our new stadium......










      and then F**K OFF

      :lmao:
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #56: Feb 22, 2010 07:54:14 pm
      Yawn, more tabloid speculation before a big game,


       blah blah blah read all about it = BULLSHIT
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #57: Feb 23, 2010 08:16:19 am
      Doesn't a player also have to agree to the transfer too? Owners can accept any bid for players they want, but at the end of the day its up to the player if he wants to leave or not!
      Nobody can question Gerrard's devotion to the club and he has come out time and time again to say he is committed to LFC but even he has said that he would leave if it was for the good of the club, ie if the offer made was too big to resist.
      Torres is regarded by many as the best striker in Europe but could potentially miss out on the CL next season having barely featured in it this season. Again, I'm not questioning his commitment to LFC but if a silly offer came in from a CL team, it might be seen as 'mutually beneficial' to move on.
      Sad sad times but we're no longer above these sort of things.
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      Reply #58: Feb 23, 2010 02:30:44 pm

      Sometimes the simplest answer is the best.
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      Reply #59: Feb 23, 2010 03:00:46 pm
      Ok first off I do want the 2 players in question to stay with LFC.

      However, would we really say no to big money, coz they could possibly both be replaced by 2 world class players each. I know it's not what any of us wants, but if it ended up happening at lease we can have a slight positive to the situation.
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      Reply #60: Feb 23, 2010 03:28:03 pm
      Nobody can question Gerrard's devotion to the club and he has come out time and time again to say he is committed to LFC but even he has said that he would leave if it was for the good of the club, ie if the offer made was too big to resist.
      Torres is regarded by many as the best striker in Europe but could potentially miss out on the CL next season having barely featured in it this season. Again, I'm not questioning his commitment to LFC but if a silly offer came in from a CL team, it might be seen as 'mutually beneficial' to move on.
      Sad sad times but we're no longer above these sort of things.

      'nobody can question gerrards devotion to the club' - really; not sure I agree - he was all but gone on not one but 2 occassions
      « Last Edit: Feb 23, 2010 03:36:23 pm by Henrik577 »
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #61: Feb 23, 2010 04:28:01 pm
      'nobody can question gerrards devotion to the club' - really; not sure I agree - he was all but gone on not one but 2 occassions
      :mad:
      He didn't go and that just shows DEVOTION. He didn't stay because he thought Liv. could offer him more money.
      I think Gerrard is the last person whose devotion and loyalty you could doubt.
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      Reply #62: Feb 24, 2010 06:34:59 am
      'nobody can question gerrards devotion to the club' - really; not sure I agree - he was all but gone on not one but 2 occassions
      I'll keep it brief because this has been explained several times.
      He nearly went once, not twice.
      That only happened because Parry and co left it so fu**in long to offer Gerrard a contract that he naturally started to think that Liverpool were ready to cash in on him and the club did nothing to tell him otherwise.
      The media were creaming themselves and blew it up, saying he wanted to leave.
      Chelski's money was never an issue. Once LFC made Gerrard and offer, he signed without hesitation.
      He could command much more money elsewhere but does not want to leave.
      End of.
      Now stop reading The S*n.
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      Reply #63: Feb 24, 2010 11:31:10 am
      IF City place the order, will it get accepted? Probably, yes.

      IF City place the order, and it's accepted, will the players want to go? No, i don't think so.

      Both have Liverpool Football Club in their heart. Stevie G had the chance to join Chelsea a few seasons ago but didn't. Why would he join Manchester City and not Chelsea? If he did it would only be for financial reasons, and he doesn't come across as that type of guy. The impression i get is he plays football because he enjoys it. He loves Liverpool Football Club.

      I think Torres is of the same mentality. I don't think either player would play for another club in England.
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      Reply #64: Feb 24, 2010 11:54:21 am
      Why would he join Manchester City and not Chelsea?

      The hunger for title could Steven drive away IMO. That's the only point i worry about. Stevie haven't won the premiership yet. So winning the league would mean everything for him, but okay winning the league with Liverpool would mean much much more  for Stevie than winning the League with City. But if you look at the facts, you see that he is now 29 years of age (he become 30 in May) and  he doesn't get younger. Last season he was close to lead Liverpool to the title. This season we could only go for the 4Th with fight  and spirit. The question is how long could he playing on his level ?
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      Reply #65: Feb 24, 2010 11:59:17 am

      The question is how long could he playing on his level ?


      I think he could go on for a few years yet. Maybe not as an attacking midfielder running with the ball and looking for goals, but i think he could change his game to suit a defensive midfielder. He can read a game very well and is very good at distributing the ball. The play would flow through him from back to front. He would also be able to use his strength and experience to break up attacks from the opposition.
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      Reply #66: Feb 24, 2010 12:31:48 pm
      IF City place the order, and it's accepted, will the players want to go? No, i don't think so.

      Both have Liverpool Football Club in their heart. Stevie G had the chance to join Chelsea a few seasons ago but didn't. Why would he join Manchester City and not Chelsea? If he did it would only be for financial reasons, and he doesn't come across as that type of guy. The impression i get is he plays football because he enjoys it. He loves Liverpool Football Club.

      I think Torres is of the same mentality. I don't think either player would play for another club in England.
      Nobody can question Gerrard's devotion to the club and he has come out time and time again to say he is committed to LFC but even he has said that he would leave if it was for the good of the club, ie if the offer made was too big to resist.
      Torres is regarded by many as the best striker in Europe but could potentially miss out on the CL next season having barely featured in it this season. Again, I'm not questioning his commitment to LFC but if a silly offer came in from a CL team, it might be seen as 'mutually beneficial' to move on.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #67: Feb 24, 2010 03:31:04 pm
      I dont understand why the yanks dont sell!!!

      I mean they dont care about the club- No passion,
      They have no intrest in investing,
      Everybody hates them,
      We are not doing as well as we could be, Lots of debt-   Why not sell and move on to some bullshit yank team?

      As with Torres and Gerrard- i understand the owners have the final say (which makes me feel sick!) but i dont think they would dare sell them- I mean there are protests already to get them out- Imagine if they sold our star players!!?  It would be manic to say the least!

      I personally believe alot of newspapers make this crap up because there is nothing else to say about our club- they have these pages to fill every single day- i will believe either of them want to leave when i see them in a different shirt!!
      The only reason they could be staying is a financial one, they appear to be hanging by their teeth until the world markets improve and they would be in a stronger position to trade, if they jumped ship now the prospects are not optimistic.
      When they took control the markets were in a comparatively healthier state than they are now, not forgetting that their own holdings have also been affected by the downturn.
      Another aspect worth considering is that if it were not for the the other assets held by the two they would never have been able to sustain the ownership of the club pointing to the fact that they are nobodies fools, it has involved borrowing to a great degree but they cannot afford to default on any of the monies mentioned and it is not clear how much they appreciate that the clubs success or lack of will directly affect how much they can cream off to service the debts.
      Their decisions now are of the make or break variety and there is very little room for error.
       The sale of our star players would be the straw that broke the camels back and the nail in the coffin for the owners.
      « Last Edit: Feb 24, 2010 07:56:05 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #68: Feb 24, 2010 05:55:54 pm
      In the words of MLK, I iHAVE A DREAM, I dream that those two F**k-wits just F**k off, And soon, notw can F**k off too they are just stirring things up as usual making up headlines to sell there sh*t rag, There's just no way Stevie G or Nando would go never mind to another pl club so as usual it's all f***in bollocks, CL or not both players are contracted to LFC and the so called 140m is nowhere near enough of a true valuation, If that f***in tw*t Ladyboy is worth 80m that just leaves 60m for two world class players. EH!! I dont think so, And if the two fat greedy kunts did sell them to pay off debt they could never set foot in England again, And thats a promise!!
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      Reply #69: Feb 24, 2010 06:52:58 pm
      Id accept the offer and then at the last minute cancel the deal, just for the craic like  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #70: Feb 24, 2010 06:54:23 pm
      Why don't City's owners just buy every team in the Premier league, take whatever players they need, and be done with!!!  :tosser:

      I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love  :kop5cf8koxp6:
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #71: Feb 25, 2010 02:21:15 pm
      Torres has said before he earns enough money and plays for the love of football and the history and fans of this club...oh and Rafa.
      So no he wont be going to Citeh
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #72: Feb 25, 2010 02:39:34 pm
      id take it if I felt Rafa would get to spend it - fed up with fernando and his injuries
      I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend anymore of our money full stop !
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      Reply #73: Feb 25, 2010 02:41:41 pm
      I wouldn't trust Rafa to spend anymore of our money full stop !

      Care to expand on that
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      Reply #74: Feb 25, 2010 02:57:43 pm
      Of course.

      Rafa Benitez has barring a few special signings (Alonso, Garcia, Torres ) has failed to set the world alight in the transfer market.

      Yes we can say it is partly because of the lousey transfer budget he has available to him, but for me I believe that when he does bring players into the club, those players just aren't involved enough to warrant the fee.

      The players any manager buys have not got to be world class, Arsene Wenger has proved this season after season but Rafa doesn't have that ability to turn average players into excellent team players and that is why I wouldn't trust him to buy any more. It's not even the fact he wasted so much on Aquilani, although that would be another example!


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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #75: Feb 25, 2010 03:05:33 pm
      Torres, Alonso, Garcia, Benayoun, Kuyt, Mascherano, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Reina, Pacheco.
      Also ex head of Barcelona Youth Development Rodolfo.
      We wont have to entrust vast amounts of money to Rafa because he has now set in place the people to develop our squad without having to resort to gambles on older players.
      Anyway that getting off topic.
      The point of this is I cant see Torres (One of Rafas signings) leaving anytime soon. Or put it this way if he is going so is Rafa, Gerrard, Mascherano, Reina and the soul of the Club as the banks get their money by asset stripping.
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      Re: "City to bid £140 million for Torres and Gerrard" Daily Mail
      Reply #76: Feb 25, 2010 04:11:37 pm
      In jckopking we trust, Nit quite got the same ring to it.......Has it....If you dont trust in your manager??

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