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      Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?

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      Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Mar 15, 2010 10:33:28 am
      Maybe for most this would seem like a knee jerk, but I've been thinking; was it the correct decision to sell Dossena, especially at the time we did? I'm no so sure about that as we are now playing with a beleaguered "promising" LB in Insua. I get the feeling even if Aurelio returns we wont see an extended run in the league by him, by no stretch of the imagination; he's certainly quality and certainly our number 1. Sadly, he since he's been here, always has struggled to fight off his proneness to injuries. With that in mind, the selling of Dossena has left us short with the ever willing, and ever short, Insua. Short of speed, depth, defence, height, and most importantly wisdom. Not really knocking the lad, for with the exception of height he can improve all these things. But, at the moment we still need some security at left back. I am not saying Dossena is anything great at defending. I am wondering if we sold ourselves short in selling him.

      Even if his intentions were geared towards playing better for the World Cup, did we really need the money that we sold him for? I don't know, as far as I am concerned that must have been a straight split in to numb nuts pockets. Given the fact we knew of Aurelio being prone to injury, were we giving too much responsibility to the young Insua? One thing I know for sure, at the moment; he's a definite liability, one that we could have  avoided. Again, I make mention, why sell him if we were not prepared to get an adequate replacement? For it would seem that buying a him, or even any left back at that matter; at the time we did made no sense. Or maybe it did, but perhaps we sold him at the wrong time. I'm not certain who we can afford at left back right now, but I think realistically, he would've been doing a better job in the squad with an extended run like Insua is having. Well, he may have set his mind on leaving, but not replacing is no excuse. Who should we get or give a run?
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #1: Mar 15, 2010 10:51:32 am
      get riise back! Agree with what you're saying about Insua, he's a bit of a liability
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #2: Mar 15, 2010 10:54:03 am
      get riise back! Agree with what you're saying about Insua, he's a bit of a liability

      Dossena was sh*te. :P

      I'd actually go as far as saying Insua is better. However Insua is a weak link in our defence.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #3: Mar 15, 2010 10:57:23 am
      Dossena was a nightmare.

      Got found out and it was the right decision to sell him back to Italy.  A bad buy but in retrospect was only a minor financial dent. 
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #4: Mar 15, 2010 10:59:46 am
      How about we look forward to getting a new left back in the summer. Lahm?
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #5: Mar 15, 2010 11:02:32 am

      So JD was dreaming of sh*te.  >:D

      I still think there was a need to use the money and replace him.
      Prospects of Lahm actually coming?  :mad:

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      Reply #6: Mar 15, 2010 11:03:30 am


      So JD was dreaming of Sh*te.  >:D

      I still think there was a need to use the money and replace him.Prospects of Lahm actually coming?  :mad:



      Well I signed him and he was great for us. Got a few goals and had a bit of pace... ha ha
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #7: Mar 15, 2010 11:18:27 am
      I'd really like Cissokho from Lyon. Think he's brilliant.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #8: Mar 15, 2010 11:23:49 am
      I'd really like Cissokho from Lyon. Think he's brilliant.

      Would cost an arm and a leg though.

      Milan were going to sign him last summer but he failed his medical due to "dental" problems but it was later revealed he had spinal issues.

      Brilliant left back though.

      But back on topic, Dossena was sh*t house.
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      Reply #9: Mar 15, 2010 11:56:53 am
      Would cost an arm and a leg though.

      Milan were going to sign him last summer but he failed his medical due to "dental" problems but it was later revealed he had spinal issues.

      Brilliant left back though.

      But back on topic, Dossena was sh*t house.

      Can we give them Insuas arm and legs? ;)
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #10: Mar 15, 2010 01:22:09 pm
      Dossena is worst left back I have seen. Worse than Traore.

      Both Insua and Dossena don't fill ne with confidence at the back but atleast Insua has a bit more about him in terms of tackling ability.

      And would Dossena have 6 assists in the league right now? Insua is great going forward whereas Dosena isn't.

      It was either sell now for £4.4m or risk losing more by showing how sh*te he is.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #11: Mar 15, 2010 03:37:08 pm
      Play agger/johnson left back.
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      Reply #12: Mar 15, 2010 03:51:42 pm
      We were lucky to get rid of Dossena for the price we did, he really is bad. But so is Insua I dont rate him at all he's a liability in defence. I wreckon we try Agger/Johnson at left back like Shabbadoo suggested before me.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #13: Mar 15, 2010 04:34:33 pm
      Dossena managed to achieve several times a run up the wing, followed by a terrible cross that gave the opposition the ball and left us with 3 at the back. He was utter p**h. Insua isn't the best but he's still quite young and all we have at the present moment.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #14: Mar 15, 2010 04:38:27 pm
      He was an extremely poor signing by Rafa if I'm being honest and we were lucky to get what we did for him. Not a fan of Insua but he is better than Dossena. I'll always remember a game where Bernard Mendy took him apart.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #15: Mar 15, 2010 04:44:43 pm
      Phillip Lahm at the club?

      Wonder signing

      Chances = Nil P
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #16: Mar 15, 2010 07:06:58 pm
      Should never got rid of Riise so fast after one poor season, and certainly not for the price we did (many clubs can sell much worse players for much more money than F***ing £3M). He'd had a crap season then but he was a much better player and a great servant to the club.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #17: Mar 15, 2010 07:25:31 pm
      I can understand why Rafa bought him, Italians are usually good defenders.

      Dossena wasn't suited to the English game, but i'll never forget the goal he scored last season against the SCUM. 0-4 HA HA.
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      Reply #18: Mar 15, 2010 07:28:52 pm
      bale anyone???
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #19: Mar 15, 2010 07:31:10 pm

      Seems to have finally come into his own hasn't he.

      Not sure though defensively - Spurs seem to be using him as a left-midfielder at the moment where he looks pretty handy.

      Doubt they'll let him to us either.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #20: Mar 15, 2010 10:34:26 pm
      Lahm is well over rated, can be terrible defensively if you watch german football youll see it week in week out..

      Kind of agree with the topic.. Doss had potential imo just never got a great run,never settled into the team and after some shockers never regained his confidence, dont think he was ever into moving to england anyway all happened quick and he just took the money but in a parallel galaxy far far away Doss is boss
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #21: Mar 16, 2010 12:30:13 am
      Taye Taiwo of Olympique Marseille or Marcell Jansen of Hamburg are two worth taking a look at, the latter can play any where up the left as well and at 6' 3" would add some much needed height to our back line.  Probably more in our price range and both capable of playing as attacking full backs.
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      Reply #22: Mar 16, 2010 12:32:25 am
      We've got a left back.

      Glen Johnson.

      Martin Kelly looks a prospect at right back.  I thought he was the best player on the pitch against Lyon and he did well when he came on tonight.
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      Reply #23: Mar 16, 2010 01:28:35 am
      Daniel Agger at LB? I sometimes wonder how much people really watch football on this forum. Can that really be a serious suggestion? A lumbering 6'3 defender with strength, who is great in the air. Yer lets take him out of his position and put him at LB, and why? the only reason I can see is that he is left footed. Just ludicrous.
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      Reply #24: Mar 16, 2010 03:28:14 am
      Set about Taiwo instantly.

      Taiwo recieves the ball... WHACK... Goalkeeper breaks his face.
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      Reply #25: Mar 16, 2010 10:22:00 am
      Daniel Agger at LB? I sometimes wonder how much people really watch football on this forum. Can that really be a serious suggestion? A lumbering 6'3 defender with strength, who is great in the air. Yer lets take him out of his position and put him at LB, and why? the only reason I can see is that he is left footed. Just ludicrous.

      Add good going forward to that.

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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #26: Mar 16, 2010 10:50:06 am
      Agger's played as a roaming central defender down the left before and with success.

      He has the game to do so if we need. Unfortunately, Insua may have to keep going as we need Agger to play in the centre with Carragher the Calamitous.
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      Reply #27: Mar 16, 2010 01:57:46 pm
      Agree, we need a left  back desperately, especially with Aurelio being injured a lot, and out of contract at the end of the season. Stevie Warnock would have been perfect at the moment.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #28: Mar 16, 2010 08:46:21 pm
      We'd be better off with no left back at all than Dossena back at the club.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #29: Mar 17, 2010 03:29:54 pm
      We'd be better off with no left back at all than Dossena back at the club.

      I think people are assuming that I'd like Dossena here, I was simply wondering; given the the horrid time Insua is having at the moment, would it have made sense to sell Dossena and bring a left back at the same time? By no means am I suggesting Dossena was the answer to our left back problems. But we need one at the moment...
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #30: Mar 17, 2010 05:41:17 pm
      Daniel Agger at LB? I sometimes wonder how much people really watch football on this forum. Can that really be a serious suggestion? A lumbering 6'3 defender with strength, who is great in the air. Yer lets take him out of his position and put him at LB, and why? the only reason I can see is that he is left footed. Just ludicrous.
      I don't think anyone was suggesting that it would be better to play D'Agger at LB than CB as such, it's just that with Carra, Skrtel and Sotis all fit, moving him to LB could be an option if we're struggling. I wouldn't describe him as 'lumbering' either, he's actually pretty mobile and that's why he's good going forward.
      My personal preference at LB is still Aurelio.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #31: Mar 17, 2010 07:43:23 pm
      Should never got rid of Riise so fast after one poor season

      I was shocked to say the least when JAR left, he was a magnificent servant to the club, and scored quite a lot of important goals as well. If he stayed, we wouldnt have had to buy Dossena, and Insua would be learning off a pro of how the LB position should be played.
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      Reply #32: Mar 17, 2010 07:45:25 pm
      We've got a left back.

      Glen Johnson.

      Martin Kelly looks a prospect at right back.  I thought he was the best player on the pitch against Lyon and he did well when he came on tonight.

      I actually started another topic about radical tactical changes and Glen Johnson at Lb with Kelly at Rb was one of the major points. Cant see why for 17m he cant play down the left at least for the foreseeable future as an option..

      And delighted to see someone of Jd's stature on the board agreeing with me :)
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #33: Mar 17, 2010 07:46:48 pm
      Something must be done in this position Insua is woefull, Warnock and JAR were miles better players. I fear for Insua on Sunday
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      Reply #34: Mar 17, 2010 08:17:25 pm
      All that good overlap of Insua don't count?
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #35: Mar 17, 2010 08:21:46 pm
      Daniel Agger at LB? I sometimes wonder how much people really watch football on this forum. Can that really be a serious suggestion? A lumbering 6'3 defender with strength, who is great in the air. Yer lets take him out of his position and put him at LB, and why? the only reason I can see is that he is left footed. Just ludicrous.

      I don't agree with you. Even Agger has offered to play left back in the past. This season IMA
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      Reply #36: Mar 18, 2010 03:02:23 am
      The last 2 games Dossena played he was very good.
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      Re: Wanted: Left Back...Dossena?
      Reply #37: Mar 22, 2010 02:21:29 pm
      I think yesterdays match reminded us the need for a quality left back. I mean, we can't play attacking wingers because we have to protect our left back? That's not right. We should have left back capable of handling himself. Ronaldo never used to run back to defend and there was no real issue with United's fullbacks. So what the crust is going on with us? After Insua who's next down the line?

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