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      Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Mar 24, 2010 10:09:45 pm
      Now I know we're on a strict limited budget (I wonder who's fault that is) but surely with Portsmouth being allowed to sell players outside the transfer window, surely we could get Steve Finnan back at Anfield on the cheap. Even if we sold Aurelio for around £6 million as I think he'd be better sold than sitting in the physio's room, we could find the funds to bring back Steve and find the answer to our left-back problem. Only problem would be he would only be able to play next season due to FA rules.

      Anyone else think this?
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #1: Mar 24, 2010 10:11:02 pm
      The fact that Steve Finnan is a right back doesn't dampen your spirits does it lad?
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #2: Mar 24, 2010 10:12:13 pm
      No, let's not have Finnan back at Anfield.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #3: Mar 24, 2010 10:16:17 pm
      Finnan was sold for a reason- he herdly went on to bigger and better things!

      The only players i would have back right now are:
      Xabi Alonso
      John arne Riise
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      Reply #4: Mar 24, 2010 10:17:16 pm
      From that squad only player i would get is:

      Belhadj but i would rarely play him anyway
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      Reply #5: Mar 24, 2010 10:17:30 pm
      Yes ... why the hell was Riise sold?
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #6: Mar 24, 2010 10:20:13 pm
      He did well while he was at the club but thats looking to the past. This club needs to move forward and getting Finnan back isn't only a step back, its a massive leap back.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #7: Mar 24, 2010 10:23:29 pm
      I would love to ave dalgleish,hansen,kennedy,keegan,fairclough,neal etc,etc back at the club but it aint gonna happen,rush and fowler were the exceptions,i think we need to move on from former players of past and look to the future.
      Oh by the way i would not take xabi alonso back.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #8: Mar 24, 2010 10:27:24 pm
      Do you think Rafa would be happy to sign a player that he was happy to sell when appointed as manager?
      I don't.

      I always liked him for us but i haven't heard anything about him in the past few years.
      Plus he hasn't done anything good enough to play for a better side than Portsmouth recently so i can't really assume that he's been impressive of late.

      I think his best years are well behind him.
      If we could have one player back who Rafa sold (bar Alonso) i'd have Arbeloa back. Still puzzled why he was replaced with Glen Johnson, especially for such a huge fee.
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      Reply #9: Mar 24, 2010 10:27:31 pm
      Finnan was a great player..... but the problem is was!
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      Reply #10: Mar 24, 2010 10:28:31 pm
      We should be looking forward to moving the team forward not backwards
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      Reply #11: Mar 24, 2010 10:33:05 pm
      Yes ... why the hell was Riise sold?

      Because his best days were over.

      He was crap in his last season.

      Aurelio is a better left-back. Just injury prone. Like I keep saying - we need to get a first team regular left back in the summer.
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      Reply #12: Mar 24, 2010 10:41:21 pm
      Yes, he had a bad season. Perhaps we should get rid of the current team  ;)
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      Reply #13: Mar 25, 2010 12:04:07 am
      Yes ... why the hell was Riise sold?

      Cos just like Dossena, he was great going forward, but couldn't actually defend and was so one-footed it was untrue, THE only thing he did with his right foot was score at the nou camp. Still wasn't a great left-back.
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      Reply #14: Mar 25, 2010 12:26:56 am
      If we could have one player back who Rafa sold (bar Alonso) I'd have Arbeloa back. Still puzzled why he was replaced with Glen Johnson, especially for such a huge fee.

      But Rafa sold Arbeloa because he wanted to leave, which as I understand it, was mainly to do with the bust up with Carra. He wouldn't come back.
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      Reply #15: Mar 25, 2010 12:29:52 am
      But Rafa sold Arbeloa because he wanted to leave, which as I understand it, was mainly to do with the bust up with Carra. He wouldn't come back.

      Was nothing to do with the bust-up with Carra, Arbeloa wanted to leave before last season, Rafa talked him into staying an extra season.
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      Reply #16: Mar 25, 2010 12:31:19 am
      Yes ... why the hell was Riise sold?

      That own goal against Chelski didn't help his case
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      Reply #17: Mar 25, 2010 12:32:31 am
      But Rafa sold Arbeloa because he wanted to leave, which as I understand it, was mainly to do with the bust up with Carra. He wouldn't come back.

      He also only had a year on his contract - although I agree, for £3M, we'd have been better keeping him
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      Reply #18: Mar 25, 2010 12:34:08 am
      He also only had a year on his contract - although I agree, for £3M, we'd have been better keeping him

      But once he knew Madrid were sniffing after him, he was always going to leave, it's the club he started at as a kid.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #19: Mar 25, 2010 12:34:17 am
      But Rafa sold Arbeloa because he wanted to leave, which as I understand it, was mainly to do with the bust up with Carra. He wouldn't come back.

      I know. When you talk about bringing players back in it's always hard because they obviously left with the intention of improving their career so it's hard for them to think about coming back, whoever it is.

      I just meant hypothetically and who i'd like to see playing for us again... hypothetically.
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      Reply #20: Mar 25, 2010 12:36:22 am
      But once he knew Madrid were sniffing after him, he was always going to leave, it's the club he started at as a kid.

      But in a world cup year, if he was told he wasn't going anywhere, then he'd have to accept it
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #21: Mar 25, 2010 12:39:26 am
      But in a world cup year, if he was told he wasn't going anywhere, then he'd have to accept it

      And we'd end up not getting a penny for Arby because he only had 12 months left on his deal and had no intention of signing a new one. Since the day he arrived on Merseyside there was always murmurs of him being homesick and wanting a move back to Spain. Once that chance arose, especially from Real Madrid, he was going to move.
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      Reply #22: Mar 25, 2010 12:43:40 am
      And we'd end up not getting a penny for Arby because he only had 12 months left on his deal and had no intention of signing a new one. Since the day he arrived on Merseyside there was always murmurs of him being homesick and wanting a move back to Spain. Once that chance arose, especially from Real Madrid, he was going to move.

      I repeat - if he's told he's going nowhere, he aint going nowhere
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #23: Mar 25, 2010 12:48:58 am
      I repeat - if he's told he's going nowhere, he aint going nowhere

      That only allows him to run down his contract and leave for free the next season and why would we want that?
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #24: Mar 25, 2010 12:49:18 am
      This thread is a waste of time,no positive debate possible,so should be locked,to avoid the inevitable drivvel.
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      Reply #25: Mar 25, 2010 12:50:13 am
      That only allows him to run down his contract and leave for free the next season and why would we want that?

      but he left for £3M
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      Reply #26: Mar 25, 2010 12:55:12 am

      £3 million more than we would of got 12 months later.
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      Reply #27: Mar 25, 2010 12:55:45 am

      Better than letting him go on a free. And at least we got about 500k-1 mil profit.
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      Reply #28: Mar 25, 2010 12:57:01 am
      £3 million more than we would of got 12 months later.

      I'm not really saying we should have kept him, just we didn't HAVE to sell him
      ie - Bayern turned down a bid of £20M for Ballack when he only had 1 year left to run on his contract, Bordeaux truned down a decent offer from Arsenal for Chamak in the summer - so to have let him leave for free would hardly have been unprecedented
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      Reply #29: Mar 25, 2010 12:59:34 am
      I'm not really saying we should have kept him, just we didn't HAVE to sell him
      ie - Bayern turned down a bid of £20M for Ballack when he only had 1 year left to run on his contract, Bordeaux truned down a decent offer from Arsenal for Chamak in the summer - so to have let him leave for free would hardly have been unprecedented

      Instead of keeping him "unhappy" for another year, it's better to just sell and get whatever profit we can instead of letting him go for nothing 12 months later.

      Either way, Bayern did not get to keep Ballack and Bordeaux probably won't get to keep Chamakh.
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      Reply #30: Mar 25, 2010 01:00:31 am
      No we didn't have to sell him but since we're a F***ing shed load in debt, we're not in much position to turn down £3 million when the same player a year later won't be able to bring in a penny for.
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      Reply #31: Mar 25, 2010 01:02:49 am
      Instead of keeping him "unhappy" for another year, it's better to just sell and get whatever profit we can instead of letting him go for nothing 12 months later.

      Either way, Bayern did not get to keep Ballack and Bordeaux probably won't get to keep Chamakh.

      Obviously they didnt/wont keep them - they just looked at it and thought they would rather keep them for a year and let them go for nothing and look at the Champions League campain Bordeaux are having this year with Chamak at the fore-front
      I mean, what does £3M get you in todays transfer market (well as we know, it didnt get Rafa anything)
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #32: Mar 25, 2010 01:03:40 am
      Now I know we're on a strict limited budget (I wonder who's fault that is) but surely with Portsmouth being allowed to sell players outside the transfer window, surely we could get Steve Finnan back at Anfield on the cheap. Even if we sold Aurelio for around £6 million as I think he'd be better sold than sitting in the physio's room, we could find the funds to bring back Steve and find the answer to our left-back problem. Only problem would be he would only be able to play next season due to FA rules.

      Anyone else think this?

      Given the time left on Aurelio's contract we would get laughed at if we even requested £2M let a lone 6 :laugh:

      Would be a step back, he isn't what he used to be and seeing as he plays right back i think it would be much better for us to push Kelly through than get a player back who is likely to retire  relatively soon.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #33: Mar 25, 2010 01:04:08 am
      I mean, what does £3M get you in todays transfer market (well as we know, it didnt get Rafa anything)

      Well it got Real Madrid a pretty good full back. ;)
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      Reply #34: Mar 25, 2010 01:06:10 am
      Well it got Real Madrid a pretty good full back. ;)

      anyway, with the way Madrid were swinging the dosh about last summer, how did we only manage to squeeze £3M out of them???
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      Reply #35: Mar 25, 2010 01:06:33 am
      Well it got Real Madrid a pretty good full back. ;)

      Best £3M they've ever spent.

      They couldn't have bought Ronaldo's hair for that
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #36: Mar 25, 2010 01:11:01 am
      Obviously they didnt/wont keep them - they just looked at it and thought they would rather keep them for a year and let them go for nothing and look at the Champions League campain Bordeaux are having this year with Chamak at the fore-front
      I mean, what does £3M get you in todays transfer market (well as we know, it didnt get Rafa anything)

      I guess I don't wanna say anything anymore because you don't see the idea Billy and I see.

      anyway, with the way Madrid were swinging the dosh about last summer, how did we only manage to squeeze £3M out of them???

      That's because Arbeloa had one year left, not 5.
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      Reply #37: Mar 25, 2010 01:11:19 am
      Best £3M they've ever spent.

      They couldn't have bought Ronaldo's hair for that

      They also got McManaman for free (my idol back in the day) and Owen for peanuts - F**k you Real Madrid
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      Reply #38: Mar 25, 2010 01:12:18 am
      They got Owen cheap because he was going into the last year of his contract and it was either that or get no money.
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      Reply #39: Mar 25, 2010 01:14:14 am
      They got Owen cheap because he was going into the last year of his contract and it was either that or get no money.

      just think - if the club told Owen to stick his request, and we still went on to win the Champions League (big if I concede) then Owen would almost certainly have signed a new deal.......
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      Reply #40: Mar 25, 2010 01:16:03 am

      That's because Arbeloa had one year left, not 5.

      Endulge me on the Billy reference?
      £3M was still loose change to that mob - we should have quoted them £15M and they might have came back with £7M
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      Reply #41: Mar 25, 2010 01:17:05 am
      Endulge me on the Billy reference?
      £3M was still loose change to that mob - we should have quoted them £15M and they might have came back with £7M

      More like they would've said F**k off.

      I think the people involved with such things know what they're doing - after all it is their job.
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      Reply #42: Mar 25, 2010 01:18:39 am
      More like they would've said f**k off.

      I think the people involved with such things know what they're doing - after all it is their job.

      iis that a back-handed compliment for H&G - they'll be most grateful :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #43: Mar 25, 2010 01:20:02 am
      It's not really got anything to do with H&G.
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      Reply #44: Mar 25, 2010 01:21:36 am
      It's not really got anything to do with H&G.

      well they and Purslow (and RBS hopefully) are the men counting the money at Anfield last time I checked
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      Reply #45: Mar 25, 2010 01:22:19 am
      Are they the ones who negotiate, deal with contracts and agree transfer deals?
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      Reply #46: Mar 25, 2010 01:23:49 am
      Are they the ones who negotiate, deal with contracts and agree transfer deals?

      so Purslow can you out and spend £40M on a striker and to F**k with H&G - of coarse all major deals go through the owners
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      Reply #47: Mar 25, 2010 01:24:14 am
      Arby, Owen, Hicks etc. Thought this was about Finnan?

      Keep it on topic ey? ;)
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      Reply #48: Mar 25, 2010 01:25:34 am
      This thread is a waste of time,no positive debate possible,so should be locked,to avoid the inevitable drivvel.

      agree!

      btw, lets bring back pennant to replace kuyt :)
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      Reply #49: Mar 25, 2010 01:26:29 am
      They may have the final say but that wasn't my point. You said they (whoever deals with transfer negotiations) should've asked for more money for Arbeloa. My argument was that this is their job and I'm pretty sure they'd try to get as much money as possible. For some reason you appear to think that you'd be able to get a better deal yourself.
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      Reply #50: Mar 25, 2010 01:28:49 am
      They may have the final say but that wasn't my point. You said they (whoever deals with transfer negotiations) should've asked for more money for Arbeloa. My argument was that this is their job and I'm pretty sure they'd try to get as much money as possible. For some reason you appear to think that you'd be able to get a better deal yourself.

      Fair enough - but if a club who can afford £80M for one player can't improve on £3M then I'd have said thanks but no thanks (If we'd have tried hard enough, I'm sure we could have got ~£3M for Degen if it was a matter of balancing the books)
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      Reply #51: Mar 25, 2010 01:36:03 am
      Fair enough - but if a club who can afford £80M for one player can't improve on £3M then I'd have said thanks but no thanks (If we'd have tried hard enough, I'm sure we could have got ~£3M for Degen if it was a matter of balancing the books)

      It was F**k all about balancing the books.

      Arbeloa had 1 year left on his deal, we wanted some money for him so we had to sell when we did. So because we were in need to sell him quickly in order to get a fee for him, we were in no position to make demands of a high fee because Madrid would just say "F**k off, we'll get him for nothing next year."

      If Arby had three or four years left then we'd be in a position to call the shots, as it was his final year we had to take whatever Madrid were willing to offer. If you look at the Alonso deal (that was between the same two clubs) we were able to demand a much higher fee because of how long he had left on his current deal. Arby didn't, so we had to take whatever we could or end up with F**k all for a lad who'd been a very good player for us.
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      Re: Get Finnan Back At Anfield
      Reply #52: Mar 25, 2010 01:54:25 am
      Remember in the first couple of posts when this topic was about Steve Finnan.

      No, neither do I.

      Topic Locked.

      I very much doubt we will be bringing in a 36 year old right back to 'solve' our left back problems.

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