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      Rafa : I have no cash for a summer spree

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      Arrie
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      Re: Rafa : I have no cash for a summer spree
      Reply #46: Mar 30, 2010 04:41:11 pm


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      Am not worshipping him, but you f**king mongs moaning about two DM's, were you moaning about that last season? What about half the f**king players, they're professionals, not f**king kids, the body language on some of them this season has been a joke and that includes our captain too!

      It's the yanks fault, lack of investment, lack of leadership in the boardroom, the fact we haven't had one single boardroom meeting since the tw*ts took over - but it's Rafa's fault - he plays Lucas.

      Dig your head out of the f**king sand - Rafa is the only one at the moment who is keeping the club ticking over - at least he f**king cares!


      Listen Fella,
      I still support our manager. I Still F**kin back him and will do no matter what happens.So you are talkin about last season and that two DM Thingy.It was Alonso for FFS not Lucas.The Guy is the best passer in the Game and was the best LFC player last Season.Put this into your thick head.

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      Reply #47: Mar 30, 2010 05:02:53 pm
      I do, and need some proper figures to show some wallys their figures are wrong. This isn't a wind up. I would appreciate the name of the thread, if you have it.

      You'll find it here mate

      http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=25582.msg517309#msg517309

      Well yeah.Benitez has spent Fuckall in the last 2 transfer windows.

      You can't put all the blame on the YANKS even though they are Bitches or on the lack of funds.It has been a sh*t season and Rafa has played his part in it.

      Exactly and the fact Rafa has spent F**k all in the past two season has made our squad thread bare when we have been through one of the worst injury crisis I have seen in 25 years at Anfield.

      So we'll skip all the sh*t you put the middle as do you not think with proper investment over two seasons Rafa's job may have been made that little bit F***ing easier when choosing his tactics had he had the strength in depth and funding that them two lying bas**rds promised us.

      So yes I can put all the blame at the two Yanks they are the cancer thats eating away it this club by placing huge debts on us and using money that club has generated to pay for itself other than dip into their own pockets (money that could be getting used to strengthen the squad), not to mention their broken F***ing promises.

      But of course in your world that has no bearing on what happens on the pitch right ?
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      Re: Rafa : I have no cash for a summer spree
      Reply #48: Mar 30, 2010 05:14:50 pm
      Have to file that Daz for future reference.
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      Reply #49: Mar 30, 2010 05:15:47 pm
      You'll find it here mate

      http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=25582.msg517309#msg517309

      Exactly and the fact Rafa has spent f**k all in the past two season has made our squad thread bare when we have been through one of the worst injury crisis I have seen in 25 years at Anfield.

      So we'll skip all the sh*t you put the middle as do you not think with proper investment over two seasons Rafa's job may have been made that little bit f**king easier when choosing his tactics had he had the strength in depth and funding that them two lying bas**rds promised us.

      So yes I can put all the blame at the two Yanks they are the cancer thats eating away it this club by placing huge debts on us and using money that club has generated to pay for itself other than dip into their own pockets (money that could be getting used to strengthen the squad), not to mention their broken f**king promises.

      But of course in your world that has no bearing on what happens on the pitch right ?
      It doesn't make me proud to be in a lynch mob and I don't like to think I am in one. I have been a supporter of Rafael Benitez since his time at Liverpool and still am, He has done alot of good for this club and that will always outweigh the bad.

      I don't have any issue with his transfer policy, he has brought in very good players and rebuilt a team from scratch, now thats gotta be hard at this level while still maintaining a top 4 place.

      We have not spent much.Actually we have made sales profit this year. which is quite disturbing to see. and our roster would have to be the one of the most expensive. Torres would have to go close to the most expensive player in the prem. The stature of this club has almost been restored to it's former glory.

      For a tactician and match day specialist it's his tactics and subs that really bother me, I find some of his decisions quite baffling.

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      Reply #50: Mar 30, 2010 05:18:42 pm
      t doesn't make me proud to be in a lynch mob and I don't like to think I am in one. I have been a supporter of Rafael Benitez since his time at Liverpool and still am, He has done alot of good for this club and that will always outweigh the bad.

      I don't have any issue with his transfer policy, he has brought in very good players and rebuilt a team from scratch, now thats gotta be hard at this level while still maintaining a top 4 place.

      We have not overspent and our roster would have to be the one of the most expensive. Torres would have to go close to the most expensive player in the prem. The stature of this club has almost been restored to it's former glory.

      For a tactician and match day specialist it's his tactics and subs that really bother me, I find some of his decisions quite baffling.




      Rafa is the man fighting to keep us afloat at the moment. Also takes most of the flak away from the owners too. No wonder they keep him. Oh but blame it on the backroom staff and how they cant afford to sack him.
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      Reply #51: Mar 30, 2010 05:24:24 pm

      For a tactician and match day specialist it's his tactics and subs that really bother me, I find some of his decisions quite baffling.

      The same applies with everyone and we are a fickle bunch, as when the team are in good form and Rafa similarly baffling substitutions we hail him as a "Tactical Genius", then when things go wrong we "Question his ability as a manager".

      However I believe making a substitution is a gamble some times it can have the effect you are looking for sometimes it can come to the detriment of the team, its a win some loose scenario.

      Its been a hard long season that has been blighted by more than substitutions & tactics, theres so much being going on that of course has a detrimental on a managers ability to manage the lack of investment over two seasons being a big part in that, to stay competitive you have to spend whilst those around are you spending or stand you still or worse even, you go backwards.
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      Reply #52: Mar 30, 2010 05:28:40 pm

      Its been a hard long season that has been blighted by more than substitutions & tactics, theres so much being going on that of course has a detrimental on a managers ability to manage the lack of investment over two seasons being a big part in that, to stay competitive you have to spend whilst those around are you spending or stand you still or worse even, you go backwards.
      think the lack of investment is getting them all down. Gerrard\Torres/Mascherano

      The infection at the top is now filtering its way through the club.

      However, that does not excuse the quality of player we have producing the drivel we are being foced to watch.

      Nor does it excuse a manager who came here and made us a side that passed the ball and control games turning into a  negative, ambition-less kick it away merchant which is what Benitex has become this season.

      Our goals for in the last 8 away league games are 0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0.

      In that time we've played sides like Pompey, Blackburn, Wolves, Wigan so not exactly top notchers and yet Rafa still refuses to adopt a positive approach and send the team out fired up to chase early goals.

      If he's not prepared to change that approach then we have no prospects of winning the title and he might as well go. I'm not interested in chasing the top 4 every year and being satisfied with that.
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      Reply #53: Mar 30, 2010 05:30:47 pm
      -----------------------------Reina---------------------------------

      Johnson------------Carragher----------Agger---------Insua

      -----------------------Mascha--------------Lucas----------------

      Kuyt--------------------------Gerrard---------------------Babel

      --------------------------------Torres----------------------------

      Will be a Tough One.

      Our defence will have to be on high alert throughout the tie.

      Nice team selection Arrie pity it undermines your argument in this thread
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      Reply #54: Mar 30, 2010 05:33:12 pm
      Nice team selection Arrie pity it undermines your argument in this thread
      We certainly be playing with two DM's and we need that actually to nullify their attacks.
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      Reply #55: Mar 30, 2010 05:34:58 pm
      We certainly be playing with two DM's and we need that actually to nullify their attacks.

      So you admit then at times Rafa is justified in starting with two holding midfielders.....
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      Reply #56: Mar 30, 2010 05:36:19 pm
      So you admit then at times Rafa is justified in starting with two holding midfielders.....
      Only At Times when they are needed.
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      Reply #57: Mar 30, 2010 05:38:58 pm
      Only At Times when they are nedded.

      Guess the other times we'll have to asume that Aquilani was ill or still in discomfort. Considering how Roma messed him around with injury recovery I'd feed him in gently this year, hope Italy leave him out of the first team for the world cup and let him loose next season. I would rather have Gerrard in the centre though I will at least grant you that much.
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      Reply #58: Mar 30, 2010 05:41:22 pm

      Our goals for in the last 8 away league games are 0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0.

      In that time we've played sides like Pompey, Blackburn, Wolves, Wigan so not exactly top notchers and yet Rafa still refuses to adopt a positive approach and send the team out fired up to chase early goals.

      If he's not prepared to change that approach then we have no prospects of winning the title and he might as well go. I'm not interested in chasing the top 4 every year and being satisfied with that.

      Every one is aware of how we have played away from home in them games, and I'm the biggest critic of Lucas and Masch as a pairing Lucas for me is not worthy  of starting as a the "Deep Lying Play Maker" in our side.

      Can I blame Rafa for that ?, No I can blame the two yank toss pots that were rubbing their hands together disappearing to RBS to pay of the debts they placed up on this club from the sale of Alonso, then saying go on Rafa replace him with a structured deal set out over a players contract, resulting in us buying the injured Aquilani.

      Lets go back to the games away I've said lack of creativity has cost us them you only have to lack at the in game stats and they validate that argument, solution in them games Gerrard or Aquilani should have been played centrally.

      Then think back was Aquilani and Gerrard available for all them games ?, what would have happened had Rafa split Gerrard and Torres up for all them games, bearing in mind Torres wasn't available for them all too.

      Lack of investment cripples us when our squad is thread bare as we do not have players of the same quality as Gerrard Torres Masch Reina Johnston Carra Agger Aurelio Bennayoun to step up to the plate when such players are injured.
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      Re: Rafa : I have no cash for a summer spree
      Reply #59: Mar 30, 2010 05:50:26 pm
      It doesn't make me proud to be in a lynch mob and I don't like to think I am in one. I have been a supporter of Rafael Benitez since his time at Liverpool and still am, He has done alot of good for this club and that will always outweigh the bad.

      I don't have any issue with his transfer policy, he has brought in very good players and rebuilt a team from scratch, now thats gotta be hard at this level while still maintaining a top 4 place.

      We have not spent much.Actually we have made sales profit this year. which is quite disturbing to see. and our roster would have to be the one of the most expensive. Torres would have to go close to the most expensive player in the prem. The stature of this club has almost been restored to it's former glory.

      For a tactician and match day specialist it's his tactics and subs that really bother me, I find some of his decisions quite baffling.


      Your posts do lurch from one extreme to the other in as much as there are obviously statements the majority would agree with but on the other hand some of the content is highly debateable. It is true what you say the manager has brought in some quality even though it is by way of an enforced sell to buy policy, not the best scenario for establishing a successful club.
      But how can our roster(?) be the most expensive and how can Torres rate as the most expensive player in the Prem? I can think of three off hand with manUre who cost more and we are a long way from being restored to any former glory right now thanks to H&G.
      On his day the manager can outwit anyone on the tactical awareness side of things and if he had a squad the size and quality of manUre or Chelski he would piss the league hands down. He has shown he has the footballing knowledge to defeat any team but he is powerless in the face of a devastating injury list which is now hopefully behind us.
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      Re: Rafa : I have no cash for a summer spree
      Reply #60: Mar 30, 2010 06:19:38 pm

      Listen Fella,
      I still support our manager. I Still F**kin back him and will do no matter what happens.So you are talkin about last season and that two DM Thingy.It was Alonso for FFS not Lucas.The Guy is the best passer in the Game and was the best LFC player last Season.Put this into your thick head.



      4-1 at Old Trafford and Alonso wasn't on the pitch, come on lad play the game, Lucas played in a few games last season, it wasn't like Alonso was playing every game, same goes for Mascherano - rotation rotation rotation - something else the man was slagged for, gone quiet that one lately in the press and on sky, possibly cos every other F***ing manager is doing it now - it will be like that soon for the zonal marking malarkey, that'll be forgotten because other managers are using it too.

      He's not entirely blameless, decisions he's made and sometimes the use of tactics and subs - but the players need to take a long hard look at themselves as well.

      I'm trying not to even think about the summer yet, it's far too depressing, the two pricks have us overvalued that no one possibly interested wants to touch and if this Rhone deal for £100 million does go ahead, I honestly see the club carrying on in the same pathetic state under even more Yanks, while the five or six in front of us carry on outbidding us for any half-decent player available.

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