Is José Mourinho trying to get Rafa's job?

Even as a great fan of Rafa i got to think on this one, Josue really seems hell bent on getting to coach our team. (thinks we can give him the CL and we probably can) If this were a one for one how would you all take it?

Can't see it myself. He would want big funds in the summer transfer markets.

What makes you say that?

I'm not sure I've seen him declare an interest...

I don't think has declared an interest mate but he has made a comment along the lines of it's a job you couldn't refuse.

What makes you say that?

I'm not sure I've seen him declare an interest...

He said he is feed up with Italy and is so unhappy he wants to return to England (this morning pre CL interview), and it is well known he has a bone in his pants for Liverpool.

Your way off the mark there, ya he would manage us if we had decent owners that would provide financial backing in the transfer market. There is no way he would come now with the current owner situation.

Mourinho is a t**t. Everything is about him. Make me sick to see him in charge of our club. He's the anti Shankly/Paisley

Why would we want him anyway? He walks away when things get tough.

He's trying to get the Madrid job if anything.

He was on SSN earlier saying how he dislikes Italian football and wants a move.

I'd see him going to Real Madrid

I think if he's after anyone's job it's city's. But only if they finish 4th.

Why on earth would he want to manage a moneyless team? Jose likes to have the cash to spend and he won't get that coming here.

There were hints that if ManUre reach 19 titles, Slur Alex will step down, leaving the door open for Mourinho

He will only go where there is money , so we will never see if he is a top drawer manager  ,Jose sees himself as the best he has said we have got the best support and with some money he would turn us into champions no doubt about it . Watching his Inter team at Chelsea I was impressed with how he has stamped his mark on them since we played them a few years ago .

There were hints that if ManUre reach 19 titles, Slur Alex will step down, leaving the door open for Mourinho

If that's what it takes for him to F**k off then so be it. As soon as that cheating b***ard is out of this league it'll be a fairer place.

I think if he's after anyone's job it's city's. But only if they finish 4th.

Why on earth would he want to manage a moneyless team? Jose likes to have the cash to spend and he won't get that coming here.

Not to put my neck on the line for taking him at his word all those years ago but he said

Liverpool are a team that interests everyone and Chelsea does not interest me so much because it is a new project with lots of money invested in it. I think it is a project which, if the club fail to win everything, then [Roman] Abramovich could retire and take the money out of the club. It's an uncertain project. It is interesting for a coach to have the money to hire quality players but you never know if a project like this will bring success.

this before he or rafa got to England and only went to che after rafa got the prime job.  Does not sound like the money grubbing wh0re you love to hate?  and maybe he has gotten some humility over the years drifting club to club.  "HUMILLITY" i made myself laugh there.

Fook we can't have Mourhino man...Torres would have a challenger to the mirror in the showers.

This is the man who openly put his name out as whiskey noses successor that wants to manage in spain and who wants to manage his country. Id rather a manager that wants to beat the manc s that turned down jobs in spain and is fully committed to this club. I. R. W. T

Thought he wanted the United job.

Plus remember he knocked Liverpool back to go to Chelsea.

I cannot see why Mourinho would want the job - far too much hassle and no transfer funds!!! Noooooo

Didn't he say a couple of weeks ago that he'd walk to Liverpool if he was offered the job?

Personally if Rafa is 'let go' in the summer i think Mourinho will come here regardless of what happens with Whiskey Nose.

If Rafa is sacked he'll go to Madrid.

What can i say i kind of like his cock sure attitude. and he is one of the best.

He wants the United job.

Also, he's an arrogant b***ard and thinks that he is bigger than LFC.

IF Rafa walks and IF Jose comes here, I'd support him.

However, I don't see both happening anytime soon.

Hes a clown. Sat in his dugout all night as if to make a point that he could care less (after his I hate Italian football comment)

IF Rafa walks and IF Jose comes here, I'd support him.

However, I don't see both happening anytime soon.

This.

However, as others has said, Jose probably wouldnt enjoy the challange of a transfer budget smaller than Tranmere's.

What can I say I kind of like his cock sure attitude. and he is one of the best.

If we can't have Rafa, this is the man I want.

People talk about his "about me" attitude, but that's something that I think players like. He takes all the pressure off big matches, and puts the pressure on himself instead of the team.

Everyone knows this man can coach some footy, as well.

I want Rafa, but if he is "let go" or sacked in the offseason, I'd support Jose.

He'ld have to make a massive paycut though, He apparently on something like 7-9m a year, one of the highest paid coaches in Europe.


IF Rafa walks, then surely they will try and find someone cheaper or at least towards the same salary band, Now IF Rafa gets paid off, the Yanks will want to pay out even less towards the new coach wages. So unless José is completly mad and in it for the love of the game then sure welcome aboard, at least we will know its not about the money. However i dont see this happening, he may return to England but the only place will be as a replacment for Bacon-Face or the Man City job...

However i have been proved wrong, but still will be one of the weary ones if he became to become our new Gaffa.

IRWT

Integrity
Class
Honesty
Loyalty
Devotion
Determination
Diligence
Tenacious
Modesty
Dauntless

They're the kinds of things I look for in a Liverpool manager and the kind of thing all Liverpool's great managers have had.  Moaninho doesn't hold a candle to Rafa.

Unless on the new job-spec we want

Self-centred
Self-satisfied
Rude
Apathetic
Conceited

In any case, it's all fairly pointless talk either way.  The man can't operate without a budget.  

For him to arrive at Anfield with the managers we've had and proclaim himself the 'special one' would make me throw up.  

Agreed JD, but if he did come and was appointed Manager, would you not be 100% behind him?

Agreed JD, but if he did come and was appointed Manager, would you not be 100% behind him?

Of course if he was appointed I would support him and hope he brings us success. 

But sitting in this position right now I can happily state that I don't want him.

Of course if he was appointed I would support him and hope he brings us success. 

But sitting in this position right now I can happily state that I don't want him.

I don't want him here either, not by a long shot, let's just hope Rafa is here for a long, long time but certainly wouldn't hold it against him if he decided to pack it in.

Right he's a bit of a bell end but nobody can deny that the man is a great manager. I can understand what some of you are saying about him not showing as many of the signs of a traditional manager as others but every club he goes to he develops a very strong bond with the players and manages to bring out the best in them. This bond is sadly what I think Rafa lacks. In terms of the "if Rafa goes" argument theres only one manager I might pick before Mourinhio and that's Hiddink. The other strong point in Jose is that he really really loves to beat United (as his touchline dance when he was with the chavs showed)...that's always a plus here! 

What JD said.

The only reason Mourinho wants the job anyway is to hold his own over Rafa because he knows Rafa has the better of him right now. Always has, always will.

Mourinho doesn't want the Madrid job because of the owners being so involved. There's the perfect man for the Liverpool job.

This stupid blinkering by some of us is beyond imagination.

Some of us were spouting who can replace rafa, Jose plays bad football, can't work with no money, etc etc


The truth is : He's one hell of a coach, and we're lucky if he even consider to coach us with the storm of sh*t up above.

I think he's a great manager, but no better than Rafa that's for sure. He'll need lots of money to bring the players he wants. If there's money for the summer well give it to Rafa instead of bringing in a new coach.

I back Rafa all the way, but if for some reason he stops beeing our manager (even though I don't see that happening) I think Mourinho would be one of the best options to replace Rafa.

I.R.W.T

How is mourinho a great manager? somebody explain.

He did well with porto winning european honours, i'll give him his due, winning the league with them however is neither here or there because portuguese football isn't the best and theres only ever two, at the most three, teams challenging for the title anyway. Porto are giants in that league and it would be an under achievement if he didn't win the league there.

At chelsea, he spent 9408927928902789472789m on players, he had 2/3 players for every position and no other team in the league could compete, not even united at the time. I accept he still has to manage the side and they still have to win games, but when you can buy the best players in the world then it makes it far easier for you. As soon as united got a grip of things and fergie made 4 or 5 signings, mourinho wet his pants and ran away.

At inter, again, money isn't a major issue. AC and Juve were crippled due to the scandals etc and again, it would have been a massive under achievement if he didn't win serie A. It was put on a plate for him, just like it was at chelsea. AC though are slowly on the up and its abit funny how hes coming out all of a sudden saying he doesn't like italian football. Didn't hear him say that when inter won the league last season. strange ey?

Personally, i dont want him associated with LFC and certainly don't want him managing our great club. I think hes over rated and could never do Rafas job in a million years. Hes the special tw*t rather than the special one. Do not want him here, he isn't liverpool fc material.

This guy is in love with Chelsea. Just listen to the press conferences before and after the Chelsea v Inter games. And I'm sure that he wouldn't do a better job than Rafa.

Mourinho: "For 90 minutes... I know nobody. For 90 minutes I know nobody. Before the game, I know everybody... and I love them. After the game I know everybody and I love them. But for 90 minutes, I know nobody."

Mourinho..He took Joe Cole off for showing moments of brilliance when Chelsea already had a game won. Mourinho throws centre halves up top as his "plan b" even when he had the most money in the world to spend on developing a super squad he had to throw a centre half up front!! He might be a flamboyant man who talks a great game but his football teams are horrible to watch. God almighty those who complain about Rafa would hang themselves watching this fellas team!!

No player or manager has ever been bigger then this club or tried to be. Therefore he would be completely the wrong man for Liverpool

Mourinho is a t**t. Everything is about him. Make me sick to see him in charge of our club. He's the anti Shankly/Paisley

Thats probably what Chelsea fans thought until he won them trophies and thats all that matters and boy does he win trophies look at his record.

Thats probably what Chelsea fans thought until he won them trophies and thats all that matters and boy does he win trophies look at his record.

So does Rafa, Jose has got lucky in Portugal and Italy, there is or was hardly any competition, Porto were the strongest team in the Portuguese league, Inter are currently the strongest team in Italy, Juve and Milan are nowhere near the threat they used to be.

It's only in England we're he has had competition, he won two leagues and a couple of other trophies, but Roman got shut of him because he could not win the European Cup - who was it who out-thought him on at least three or four occasions in that competition?

Jose is that good that Barca refer to him as "The interpreter!!"

Huyton is timing in England was spot on as well. Utd were in transition Rafa had to pick up the pieces left by Houllier, Arsenal broke up there "invincible" team and Chelsea had money to burn.

And youre right about Rafa and his trophy haul. No mean feat overhauling Madrid and Barce to win la liga a few times

If Rafa is sacked he'll go to Madrid.

Naaah, I don't believe that at all.
What make you said so? I guess they will have to sack Jorge Valdano first then.
sh*t on the stick and all that, have you forgotten about his comment?

Hes a clown. Sat in his dugout all night as if to make a point that he could care less (after his I hate Italian football comment)

What will you say if he comes to us and wins us a PL title? Will he be your Messiah then?

So does Rafa, Jose has got lucky in Portugal and Italy, there is or was hardly any competition, Porto were the strongest team in the Portuguese league, Inter are currently the strongest team in Italy, Juve and Milan are nowhere near the threat they used to be.

It's only in England we're he has had competition, he won two leagues and a couple of other trophies, but Roman got shut of him because he could not win the European Cup - who was it who out-thought him on at least three or four occasions in that competition?

Jose is that good that Barca refer to him as "The interpreter!!"

Ah I see you logic there....when Mourinho won something he was lucky but when he lost he was outthought.
There is another word called unlucky, you know...

What will you say if he comes to us and wins us a PL title? Will he be your Messiah then?

I follow Liverpool fc so no matter who is in charge Id be f**kin delighted to win the title. But with him there would be a gloss taken off it. Hed make it all about him. Not the club not the players and not us the fans. He has no dignity about him.

Ah I see you logic there....when Mourinho won something he was lucky but when he lost he was outthought.
There is another word called unlucky, you know...

Or too arrogant for his own F***ing good.

Reason he didn't get the Liverpool job in the first place, Rick Parry decided he wasn't the man for Liverpool after his antics at Old Trafford.

Unlucky that Luis's goal was given, unlucky that his penalty takers weren't very good in 2007, unlucky that Roman doesn't really give a sh*t about the Premier League, he just wants to win the European Cup, something softlad couldn't deliver.

Yeah the man was unlucky. Barcelona are right about the pr**k!

I follow Liverpool fc so no matter who is in charge Id be f**kin delighted to win the title. But with him there would be a gloss taken off it. Hed make it all about him. Not the club not the players and not us the fans. He has no dignity about him.

absolutely spot on.

Thats probably what Chelsea fans thought until he won them trophies and thats all that matters and boy does he win trophies look at his record.

boy,he will demand a gignatic budget,look at his record.

I doubt he'll get the Madrid job, Manuel Pellegrini is a fan favourite there..

I doubt he'll get the Madrid job, Manuel Pellegrini is a fan favourite there..

That is of no significance to Florentino 

If we can't have Rafa, this is the man I want.

People talk about his "about me" attitude, but that's something that I think players like. He takes all the pressure off big matches, and puts the pressure on himself instead of the team.

Everyone knows this man can coach some footy, as well.

I want Rafa, but if he is "let go" or sacked in the offseason, I'd support Jose.

Rafa is the better manager. He has to stay.

If and when Rafa goes the only qualification for his successor would be to continually nod like one of those noddy dogs for H&G.
Mourinho if given unlimited funds is certainly not a yes man but that is the reason he would not consider the job under the financial conditions that would prevail

Seems only solid argument against the man is the FACT that he is a pr**k and i guess some fooks think his titles were against weak opponents or he was luck but you can only beat the people you play against.  Him being a jerk can't be a good enough reason not to want him in the job, Lets face it Rafa isn't Mr personality himself.

"Until LFC takes the Field in a blue on blue kit, make mine Rafa"

But if he walks i would take a Josue who is willing to take a pay cut and be happy as a lark.  He inspires players and with the standard of some of our squad less than top shelf a little more inspiration can only help even if it's provided by a giant douche (or was that a sh!t sandwhich)

Who gives a sh*t about who wants who's job?

Jose is at Inter, Rafa is at Liverpool. Until the end of the season at least.

Let's talk about the last 7 weeks of football that needs playing instead eh.

They love the big names in Portugal/Brazil.......

Mourinho is a t**t. Everything is about him. Make me sick to see him in charge of our club. He's the anti Shankly/Paisley

YUP

errr he would go anywhere that provide money, status, prospects, self promotion etc etc. the man has no attachments or morals. plus he's got no class. yes he's a good manager, but he is not a 'liverpool' manager. not because he isn't good enough, but because he does not fit our culture.

no, i don't want him anywhere near liverpool. rafa is the man.

Even if he did end up here, he'd only be here for a season or two.  And we'd be on another manager hunt, no way would he put up with half the sh*t Rafa has had from those two cowboys.
 
I don't know who the right man for Liverpool is any more.

nope, cant see it happening, did good things at porto with not much money, did good with his bag of gold at chelski and got left the best part of a team of champions in italy. he pretty much plays the exact same way as rafa anyway, only thing i think he cud add is a bit of a better link between club and media.

Jose is a good manager in his own right but no way is he the right man for LFC, Rafa is, Jose is all anout me me me and there is definately substance in having big budgets to succeed, His ego will prove too big and would'nt last very long as our boss, It's just not the Liverpool way, If and only if Rafa was to walk i would prefer Hiddink but doubt he would come to Anfield due to his loyalty, However there is one man i would'nt mind as our boss and you all may say i'm taking the piss but i would consider Roy hodgeson at Fulham, He IMO is a fantastic manager whereever he has managed, He goes about his business quetly and efficiently has experience in Europe and his passion for the game is second to none, Look at what he has achieved at Fulham alone, They were all but down and out a couple of seasons ago when Fayed appointed him, Look at them now, Fulham are not exactly full of top class superstars with ego's to match, They are a get the ball on the floor and lets play football, No nonsense honest team who work their jockstraps off for each other the results and their performances this season are proof of that, I for one would be quite pleased if Roy replaced Rafa and no doubt he would raise a few eyebrows around the epl, Anyone agree??

He doesn't love LFC. He only loves himself. He is using us to get back to the premier league. I hope he gets robbed if he ever comes. 

What manager in their right mind would choose us (no money, 200 million debt, tight wage structure) over a team like man city (infinate money, high wage strucure, very high ambition)??

I hope he gets robbed if he ever comes.  

think thats a given mate! and we already robbed him in the champions league semi final in 2005!!

I do think he is a quality manager though, but he would be much happier pissing away millions at man city so thats why I cant see him coming here, unfortunately

F**k maureenioh,i only see one replacement if rafa decides to leave us and that is pep guardiola.

6 trophies in 2 years.

I think Jose wants the job , we all know he has a big ego and wants to see himself go down as one of the greatest managers ever, maybe he sees bringing the glory days back to anfield as the perfect oppurtinity after all it has been 20 years since we won the league.

What kind of manager would Mourinho be with no money to spend??? An average one probably.

Bear in mind he was even more defensive minded at Chelsea than Rafa is now, i don't think he is any better than Rafa anyway!!

Mourinho is good because he has learnt from the best and you judge managers on what they have won

Porto - 2 league titles, 1 league cup, uefa cup , champions league.
Chelsea - 2 league titles , 1 fa cup and 2 league cups.
Inter - 1 league title , 1 league cup.

and there is the added bonus that if he does come we know we are not going to get beat at anfield.

As much as you all love rafa he is nowhere near as good as mourinho

Mourinho is good because he has learnt from the best and you judge managers on what they have won

Porto - 2 league titles, 1 league cup, uefa cup , champions league.
Chelsea - 2 league titles , 1 fa cup and 2 league cups.
Inter - 1 league title , 1 league cup.

and there is the added bonus that if he does come we know we are not going to get beat at anfield.

As much as you all love rafa he is nowhere near as good as mourinho

F**k the Portuguese c**t, he's an arrogant tw*t who fucks off when things get tough, like all Portuguese shithouses!!

Maureen can be rafa's interpreter.

The only club he would go to at present is city cause they are the only club that could buy him a team

Mourinho, simply the best coach in the world

Mourinho, simply the best coach driver in the world

 

Why do you LFC fans like Rafa so much ? In my view he should be fired a long ago. Why keeping him just because he had a good (European) season ? :s

Why do you LFC fans like Rafa so much ? In my view he should be fired a long ago.

Fired like a firework into the sky/at the officials. Yeahyeahhh thats how proper fans go! Why dont we get a firework and fire it into the sky that says "Sack Rafa!"...

...no? Ok...how about one which says "F**k off cheating cu*ts!"

F**k the Portuguese c**t, he's an arrogant tw*t who fucks off when things get tough, like all Portuguese shithouses!!

I couldnt give a F**k if our manager was arrogant as long as we won the F***ing title and when rafa was appointed im sure that was his target.. 4 years then it could have been ours last season until rafa went and fu**ed things up.

no one likes ferguson but do they give a F**k because they always F***ing winning something and this season rafas got us not in 3rd or 4 th we are sitting pretty in 6th , I dont know about you but thats something I cannot take

Yes he is...seemples. Who wouldnt want to take charge at Anfield?

I dont really know how much money he spent with Porto, or how much he has spent at Inter Milan, but I do remember him spending previously unheard of amounts at Chelsea, having wheelbarrows full of expensive superstars sitting on the bench, some not even making it to the bench. That crazy spending bought him 2 prem league titles, and the following year when the spending slowed down his team were no longer able to dominate and he was gone.
For that effort he proclaimed himself to be the special one.

You would think on that basis the current phase that Man City are going through would be ideal for him. For 200-300 million pounds he can take a no name team to the top. Mancini is looking pretty soft for my money so it may just be a possibilty.
Jose to Liverpool?  maybe he has heard that we are about to get a sugar daddy come along and pay off the debts and invest in the club.

I couldnt give a F**k if our manager was arrogant as long as we won the F***ing title and when rafa was appointed im sure that was his target.. 4 years then it could have been ours last season until rafa went and fu**ed things up.

no one likes ferguson but do they give a F**k because they always F***ing winning something and this season rafas got us not in 3rd or 4 th we are sitting pretty in 6th , I dont know about you but thats something I cannot take

Your messiah Fergie didn't win the title for 7 seasons and he had all the money to buy who he wanted!

We're not a no-mark club who don't give a sh*t who does it, we want someone who represents us and our values, Shanks' values, Paisley's values and embraces the Liverpool way.

Would Mourinho do that? Fergie? Hiddink? Whoever the F**k else there is out there?! Rafa is our man.

Support the manager or do one.

cant believe people even talking about this 

IRWT

I couldnt give a F**k if our manager was arrogant as long as we won the F***ing title and when rafa was appointed im sure that was his target.. 4 years then it could have been ours last season until rafa went and fu**ed things up.

no one likes ferguson but do they give a F**k because they always F***ing winning something and this season rafas got us not in 3rd or 4 th we are sitting pretty in 6th , I dont know about you but thats something I cannot take

Stop the F***ing crying and whinging, man the F**k up for next Thursday and get off the managers back, unless you were like this with Houllier, Evans and Souness!!

There is still a trophy to be won this season, so get behind the manager and team.

And will someone lock this F***ing thread as there is not a chance Jose will be rocking up here in the summer. If he is coming back to England, it'll be at Man City where he can spend F***ing millions like he did at Chelsea.

This is funny.

The last thing we need is a crybaby like Mourinho. Get real.

Madness he is going to United. It's what they deserve!

Not sure Jose fits the Liverpool mould.  He certainly would raise the teams profile, but I would wonder if he would be as commoted to us as he is to his own profile.  In any case he would need the money to buy big, and there seems to be no mission of that hapening soon.  I'm sure if we had the money to spend, Rafa would do as good a job. 

The question is simple,the answer is no.

Jose can f**k off!!! He wud ruin us... If things went wrong he'd blame havin no money, leave us in da lurch and walk away... Rafa is a real manager and gets on with it... I want Rafa to stay as long as he wants to stay...The best man for the job. FACHT!!!!!

As for jose going to ruin us if he take over no body knows...unless if u can see the future. If that the case, might as well get the wining lottery ticket & buy over the club.

Till then let us wait till end of season & see where we stand. May be just give rafa another season & see how it is since there are some fund (lets presume so) for the manager. And budget is mostly the argument that elude us from the title.

We have waited for so long to lift the premiership, what is another 1 year (doubt we will be relegated). If rafa still can't deliver, then may be liverpool or the premier league is not the right place for rafa.

 As for rafa will win the title or is the right man forever, no 1 will know unless u can see the future... again which bring back to the lottery ticket. Till then, lets us all rally up the team as the journey to this season has not ended yet.   

Mourinho only goes where the money leads him, it ain't leading to Anfield!!!!!!!!!!!

Rafa should stay aother season to prove himself, if not then show him the door.  The more I think about it, Jose is definitely not the right person for the job.  Dare I suggest Martin O'Neill should be in the frame.  A good footballing brain, full of passion, communicates with his players, and above all has integrty and would put the club first.  Just a thought...

Rafa should stay aother season to prove himself, if not then show him the door.  The more I think about it, Jose is definitely not the right person for the job.  Dare I suggest Martin O'Neill should be in the frame.  A good footballing brain, full of passion, communicates with his players, and above all has integrty and would put the club first.  Just a thought...

Nah.

Integrity, don't think so - his links to Forest and Clough should immediately make this a no-no.

Dare I suggest Martin O'Neill should be in the frame.  A good footballing brain, full of passion, communicates with his players, and above all has integrty and would put the club first.  Just a thought...

I'd rarther have my right testicle cut off and boiled than see that c**t in our dugout.

Its really a no brainer.  Rafa is the man for the job. 

Only places Manho will go is Real Madrid or Citeh. Then he can whip out the Football Manager and go through the stats one handed.

I'd rarther have my right testicle cut off and boiled than see that c**t in our dugout.

Rafa should stay aother season to prove himself, if not then show him the door.  The more I think about it, Jose is definitely not the right person for the job.  Dare I suggest Martin O'Neill should be in the frame.  A good footballing brain, full of passion, communicates with his players, and above all has integrty and would put the club first.  Just a thought...

Is this the same Martin Oneill who has insuated this week he might leave if he isn't going to get anymore money? Not a good start is it? I think he's barking up the wrong tree if he thinks he'll be getting anything more than magic beans at Liverpool.

Once again another sh*te thread,shame on you mods for not locking this already.There is no creditable reasoning or debate around it sffs,stop it now,it discredits our forum.

Once again another sh*te thread,shame on you mods for not locking this already.There is no creditable reasoning or debate around it sffs,stop it now,it discredits our forum.

Boozy? 

Once again another sh*te thread,shame on you mods for not locking this already.There is no creditable reasoning or debate around it sffs,stop it now,it discredits our forum.

Not debatable, yet it has over 90 replies.

Funny how that works.

Not debatable, yet it has over 90 replies.

Funny how that works.

I just feel the need to keep replying no once in a while

Boozy? 

No debate has to have some basis,this is sh*te,wait until you've got a proper topic before you post a thread.