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      Reply #500: Apr 27, 2012 12:54:17 am
      Bilbao will beat you, Barca in the Copa. Then you'll have won nowt, nada, naffink  >:D ;D
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      Reply #501: Apr 27, 2012 10:07:55 am
      Bilbao will beat you, Barca in the Copa. Then you'll have won nowt, nada, naffink  >:D ;D
      Apart from the Spanish Super Cup, UEFA Super Cup and the World Club Championship. Moyes for Barcelona !
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      Reply #502: Apr 27, 2012 12:58:50 pm
      Guardiola confirms Barca exit

      Pep Guardiola has confirmed that he will leave Barcelona at the end of the season.

      Guardiola has enjoyed great success at the Camp Nou since he was promoted in the summer of 2008 from his role in charge of the Barcelona B side. Under his leadership, Barca won the league title in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Champions League in 2009 and 2011 and the Copa del Rey in 2009.

      However, he has been loath to make a long-term commitment to Barca, signing only one-year contract extensions amid fears of burnout in the face of the intense pressure the role attracts.

      Following a week in which Barca suffered a 2-1 home defeat to Real Madrid - effectively ceding the title to their rivals - and then a 3-2 aggregate loss to Chelsea in the Champions League semi-finals, Guardiola told the board on Thursday that he was not prepared to extend his contract. The players were informed of his decision during training on Friday morning and a formal announcement followed in a press conference attended by Guardiola and the squad.

      President Sandro Rosell introduced the conference by saying: "We have called you today to announce that Pep Guardiola will not continue in charge of the team next season.

      "Thank you, Pep, for all the happiness you have brought us and for bringing a model of football that can never be questioned. The thanks from everybody at Barcelona will be eternal for the best manager in the history of the club."

      Guardiola, explaining his decision, apologised for the uncertainty over his future in recent months.

      "I've always wanted short contracts because the pressure at Barcelona is so big," Guardiola said. "I always thought that four years is an eternity for a coach.

      "In October, I announced to the president and the director of football that I was seeing the end of my era. I don't have any energy left. I need to recharge.

      "It would not have been a good thing - for either me or the players - if I had continued. I leave with the feeling of a job well done. I'm proud to have been Barcelona's coach."

      http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1055344/pep-guardiola-confirms-barcelona-departure?cc=5739

      Sad to see him go. He's built the greatest football team I have ever seen play in my entire life.
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      Reply #503: Apr 27, 2012 01:02:59 pm
      I could see him returning within 2 seasons back at Barca, its in his blood and if they start to drop off whilst he is not the manager you will see calls for his return.
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      Reply #504: Apr 27, 2012 01:10:48 pm
      There is a lot of pressure on his replacement to continue playing the style of football that they are now known for and winning trophies of course. If that doesn't happen in a season or two, I can see Pep going back there.
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      Reply #505: Apr 27, 2012 01:11:14 pm
      Would love him at LFC. (Sorry!)
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      Reply #506: Apr 27, 2012 01:50:21 pm
      Sad to see Guardiola go, he's clearly one of the finest managers of the decade. However, if he needs his break, than fair play to him. Even with Barcelona's slightly less stunning campaign this year, I'd still fancy them to batter anyone when playing as they can.

      Just a note on the the appointment of his assistant Tito Vilanova. While it's a risk, big respect to them for looking in-house again for managing talent. I hope it works for them (though not against us if we play sometime soon!).

      But yeah, fantastic team and fantastic manager. Can see him going back there some day.
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      Reply #507: Apr 27, 2012 02:47:53 pm
      Would love him at LFC. (Sorry!)

      Wont happen because of the history he has with Borrell.
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      Reply #508: Apr 27, 2012 03:03:28 pm
      It's obvious he's taking a year off, but all the knobhead press will continue to say he's the man for the England job. As will all the w**ker pundits - the same ones who've been calling for an English manager for ages.


      Good luck for the future Pep. And well done on your incredible achievements at Barca.

      How will they replace him?
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      Reply #509: Apr 27, 2012 03:05:34 pm
      Barca's very own Bob Paisley.
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      Reply #510: Apr 27, 2012 03:05:43 pm
      It's obvious he's taking a year off, but all the knobhead press will continue to say he's the man for the England job. As will all the w**ker pundits - the same ones who've been calling for an English manager for ages.


      Good luck for the future Pep. And well done on your incredible achievements at Barca.

      How will they replace him?

      The old Liverpool way, from within.
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      Reply #511: Apr 27, 2012 03:07:13 pm
      Vilanova has already been given the job. They were always going to promote from within, it's their philosophy.
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      Reply #512: Apr 27, 2012 03:11:22 pm
      He has always said he thinks a manager shouldn't stay for too long at Barça and always hinted at a possible exit, so this news come as a bit of a surprise but not that much. It's a bit difficult to predict what he's gonna do now, because I don't think he has the same mentality of most managers, he thinks things differently and perhaps that's why he's been so good at what he does.
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      Reply #513: Apr 27, 2012 03:21:13 pm
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      Reply #514: Apr 27, 2012 04:09:19 pm
      Sad news that, Barca as a club are tremendous, the press that follow Barca however are vultures.
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      Reply #515: Apr 27, 2012 04:13:25 pm
      Didn't Tito have throat cancer? Always been lead to believe he was as much in need of a break as Pep so surprised at this appointment
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      Reply #516: Apr 27, 2012 06:47:54 pm
      I thought Tito would leave with Barca in the idea that they had become a partnership but nor am I surprised they appointed him. Appointing from within clearly worked with Barca with Pep and I think it will work with Tito when he makes the step up. He knows the philosophy, seen how you can get the best out of players like Messi etc and will generally continue the job Guardiola began. A very wise decision indeed!

      I don't know what Pep will do next. He should do as he desires and take a break. I'd always hang out for the hope that if Liverpool ever came calling he'd be willing to step up to the task. What could be more exciting than him coming in and taking on the delicious task of transforming the club from to to bottom? I don't think there's a better manager in football at the moment. He's like Mourinho, only with the style in his football and without the sheer arrogance.
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      Reply #517: Apr 27, 2012 06:56:00 pm
      I don't think there's a better manager in football at the moment. He's like Mourinho, only with the style in his football and without the sheer arrogance.

      And his teams can't defend. See Tuesday.
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      Reply #518: Apr 27, 2012 07:01:46 pm
      And his teams can't defend. See Tuesday.
      So a team that wins that many things can't defend? I'd think not. They just defend differently than you apparently think they should. Mostly by trying to keep possession and pressuring the opposition as a team when they're not in possession..
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      Reply #519: Apr 27, 2012 07:20:47 pm
      So a team that wins that many things can't defend? I'd think not.

      Yep, it's called possession. The opponent can't score if they don't have the ball, can they? And for a team that usually has about 70% possession and 1-4 shots on target against them per game, they concede an awful lot of goals, don't you think?

      They just defend differently than you apparently think they should. Mostly by trying to keep possession and pressuring the opposition as a team when they're not in possession.

      I'm talking about defending OFF the ball. When Barca are being attacked, or their defence is being ran at, they're a shambles.
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      Reply #520: Apr 27, 2012 07:36:27 pm
      Yep, it's called possession. The opponent can't score if they don't have the ball, can they? And for a team that usually has about 70% possession and 1-4 shots on target against them per game, they concede an awful lot of goals, don't you think?
      That is their defense though. As they say, offense is the best defense. I don't see that seperate from it.

      I'm talking about defending OFF the ball. When Barca are being attacked, or their defence is being ran at, they're a shambles.
      I think as a team they've always been very good at regaining possession, by putting pressure as a team early on, forcing the opposition to make mistakes.

      But you can't play like Barcelona and have a different, or much better defense. Because being able to play that way has alot to do with the type of players they play. It's also why they don't see Masch as a viable option for their midfield. They could play more defensive players but it'll go at the cost of their possession play.
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      Reply #521: Apr 27, 2012 08:11:48 pm
      And his teams can't defend. See Tuesday.

      Rubbish. When a team is pressing that high all the time and with that urgency you're always likely to find a gap in the defence. Everyone's mentality is so attack minded that the idea of getting into trouble defensively is out of the question. It's silly to allow complacency in like that yes but it can happen to the best of teams as we just saw.

      For sure I think it's time for Puyol to move over and some further tweaks required in that department but YOU DO NOT win two European Cups, 3 league titles and a Copa Del Rey if you can't defend at a good standard. It's simple!
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      Reply #522: Apr 27, 2012 08:23:58 pm
      Rubbish. When a team is pressing that high all the time and with that urgency you're always likely to find a gap in the defence. Everyone's mentality is so attack minded that the idea of getting into trouble defensively is out of the question. It's silly to allow complacency in like that yes but it can happen to the best of teams as we just saw.

      For sure I think it's time for Puyol to move over and some further tweaks required in that department but YOU DO NOT win two European Cups, 3 league titles and a Copa Del Rey if you can't defend at a good standard. It's simple!
      That is their defense though. As they say, offense is the best defense. I don't see that seperate from it.
      I think as a team they've always been very good at regaining possession, by putting pressure as a team early on, forcing the opposition to make mistakes.

      But you can't play like Barcelona and have a different, or much better defense. Because being able to play that way has alot to do with the type of players they play. It's also why they don't see Masch as a viable option for their midfield. They could play more defensive players but it'll go at the cost of their possession play.

      Their back four as a unit are terrible defensively. They just are.

      They win their silverware by possession and possession alone.
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      Reply #523: Apr 27, 2012 08:27:28 pm
      Their back four as a unit are terrible defensively. They just are.

      They win their silverware by possession and possession alone.

      This season maybe. They weren't that bad. But Abidal getting older, and getting sick. And Puyol getting older has certainly lowered the overall quality, and Alves isn't really a defender in how he plays for them. I think the only real mistake they made there is buying Adriano, just isn't good enough.

      But normally teams have more enforcers in their team, on the midfield too I'd say that's more the reason than anything else. But that again comes back to their style of play.
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      Reply #524: Apr 27, 2012 08:29:44 pm
      Should have stuck to 4-3-3.
      That 3-3-3-1 was mental when they lost the ball.
      It was totally reliant on possession.

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