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      unwashedmasses
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      Re: Doctor Who
      Reply #25: Aug 25, 2014 06:29:35 pm
      The plot wasn't so good, even with all the references to one of my favourite episodes. However I enjoyed Capaldi and am enjoying Clara's growth. The phone call I actually liked even if it was blatantly designed to get those unaccustomed to an older doctor on board. A promising debut for me, always takes a few episodes for the new doctor to really hit their stride.

      Also a few questions raised which helps get me hooked!
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      Reply #26: Aug 29, 2014 10:46:36 pm
      The plot wasn't so good, even with all the references to one of my favourite episodes. However I enjoyed Capaldi and am enjoying Clara's growth. The phone call I actually liked even if it was blatantly designed to get those unaccustomed to an older doctor on board. A promising debut for me, always takes a few episodes for the new doctor to really hit their stride.

      Also a few questions raised which helps get me hooked!


      Yeah I watched it - the bit at the end when the Doctor says 'Look AT me - not at my face' was the writers way of trying to get the stupid fangirls who love Twilight on board.

      I don't consider myself a fan of Doctor Who, I watch it now and again and its enjoyable, but Peter Capaldi's such a great actor it's impossible to go wrong. I watched it and I thought he was great and his assistant Clara doesn't seem a cliched bimbo but a real character, so that's a good basis. It's impossible to go wrong, unless the scripts turn really really sh*t - like one based around The Doctor going back in time to buy yesterday's paper.
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      Reply #27: Aug 30, 2014 09:47:18 am
      I thought he was great and his assistant Clara doesn't seem a cliched bimbo but a real character, so that's a good basis.


      Lol agreed. I loathed Rose, she was one of these ever growing number of characters with next to no personality. A hollow shell for viewers, particularly fan girls, to pour themselves into so they can imagine themselves stroking David Tenant's face.

      (From my understanding this is also the basis of them Twilight books and the movies, replacing Tennant with Robert Pattinson.)
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      Reply #28: Aug 30, 2014 10:35:07 am
      I'm showing my age here, but I have enjoyed Dr Who at various stages through my life and I still watch it now.  I think Matt Smith is excellent.  Like many, I was dubious when he was named, but then I saw some clips of him acting in other shows and he has an odd matureness about him.

      When I were a wee lad, I remember Jon Pertwee being the Doctor and Tom Baker was the one that really owned it while I was growing up - for six years I think.  I also watched quite a bit of Peter Davison's Doctor (especially with Nicola Bryant!! :D) but then lost interest. 

      Same as mate but after Tom Baker and Pertwee l lost interest and don't think watched another episode, maybe because the theme was too repetitive and juvenile - or maybe the ale, women and buses into town in no particular order distracted me.
      Having followed Capaldi from his early appearances in that comedy hospital show Getting On with Jo Brand which was excellent, then his serious dramatic roles, it was something of a surprise to hear he had been cast as Dr Who!
      Surely a backward step in his career or perhaps offers of work are thin on the ground, which would be surprising.

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      Reply #29: Aug 30, 2014 11:10:38 am
      Same as mate but after Tom Baker and Pertwee l lost interest and don't think watched another episode, maybe because the theme was too repetitive and juvenile - or maybe the ale, women and buses into town in no particular order distracted me.
      Having followed Capaldi from his early appearances in that comedy hospital show Getting On with Jo Brand which was excellent, then his serious dramatic roles, it was something of a surprise to hear he had been cast as Dr Who!
      Surely a backward step in his career or perhaps offers of work are thin on the ground, which would be surprising.



      A backwards step? In the last couple of years the show has exploded on the international market, they were going round the globe doing world premieres. It's the biggest role up for grabs on British TV.

      It's by far the biggest role of Capaldi's career and the only move upward is to lead a multi-million dollar US show like a Breaking Bad/Walking Dead level or become a movie star. To most of the world this is his first exposure. This aint the Tom Baker days anymore.

      Also, from what I hear he is a big fan of the show.
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      Reply #30: Aug 30, 2014 11:34:26 am

      A backwards step? In the last couple of years the show has exploded on the international market, they were going round the globe doing world premieres. It's the biggest role up for grabs on British TV.

      It's by far the biggest role of Capaldi's career and the only move upward is to lead a multi-million dollar US show like a Breaking Bad/Walking Dead level or become a movie star. To most of the world this is his first exposure. This aint the Tom Baker days anymore.

      Also, from what I hear he is a big fan of the show.


      I know the show has a cult following and all that goes with that statement.
      Mine is a personal take and it puzzles the hell out of me how adults rave about it - again a personal view.
      Having said that the addition of a thespian of Capaldi's status to the cast is a real surprise.
      Having seen an interview with Peter Capaldi discussing the role I get the impression he does have reservations himself, body language, guarded replies and generally looking a little uncomfortable in comparison to other interviews left me with that opinion.
      If he does more than one series it will be a shock.
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      Reply #31: Aug 30, 2014 11:35:31 am
      I liked the look of Capaldi as the Doctor and think he'll be excellent but the whole time I was expecting him to go into a full on expletive laden rant ala The thick of it  ;D
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      Reply #32: Aug 30, 2014 11:42:55 am
      I know the show has a cult following and all that goes with that statement.
      Mine is a personal take and it puzzles the hell out of me how adults rave about it - again a personal view.
      Having said that the addition of a thespian of Capaldi's status to the cast is a real surprise.
      Having seen an interview with Peter Capaldi discussing the role I get the impression he does have reservations himself, body language, guarded replies and generally looking a little uncomfortable in comparison to other interviews left me with that opinion.
      If he does more than one series it will be a shock.


      Oh this seems a little defensive, as I guess mine did, I can see how I came off a bit aggressive, so apologies.

      I was just meaning to say it's no longer a cult thing, it's become a huge international franchise in the last couple of years.
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      Reply #33: Aug 30, 2014 12:54:38 pm
      Oh this seems a little defensive, as I guess mine did, I can see how I came off a bit aggressive, so apologies.

      I was just meaning to say it's no longer a cult thing, it's become a huge international franchise in the last couple of years.

      Haha no worries mate, that's what just getting off the Current Affairs does for you, still got my serious head on.
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      Reply #34: Aug 30, 2014 02:08:21 pm
      Haha no worries mate, that's what just getting off the Current Affairs does for you, still got my serious head on.

      Lol I try to stay off there for my sanity hahaha
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      Reply #35: Aug 31, 2014 01:30:35 am
      Same as mate but after Tom Baker and Pertwee l lost interest and don't think watched another episode, maybe because the theme was too repetitive and juvenile - or maybe the ale, women and buses into town in no particular order distracted me.
      Having followed Capaldi from his early appearances in that comedy hospital show Getting On with Jo Brand which was excellent, then his serious dramatic roles, it was something of a surprise to hear he had been cast as Dr Who!
      Surely a backward step in his career or perhaps offers of work are thin on the ground, which would be surprising.



      Its got a massive international market and makes shitloads for the BBC, just like Top Gear - that's globalisation for you.

      Becoming Doctor Who has pretty much made Peter Capaldi the most recognised BBC star world wide along with Clarkson, Hammond and May. Pretty much funds the BBC these days along with Top Gear.
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      Reply #36: Aug 31, 2014 07:50:45 am
      Its got a massive international market and makes shitloads for the BBC, just like Top Gear - that's globalisation for you.

      Becoming Doctor Who has pretty much made Peter Capaldi the most recognised BBC star world wide along with Clarkson, Hammond and May. Pretty much funds the BBC these days along with Top Gear.

      Having seen Capaldi in several critically acclaimed productions, his subsequent appearance in Dr Who does require an amount dumbing-down on the part of anyone who has followed the actor's career.
      To put his name in the same sentence as that buffoon Clarkson is a professional slight.
      As you point out 'tho Dave the show does have a global fan base and the benefits to the actor's career are obvious, if you are into it Capaldi can only acquit himself well in the role.       
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      Reply #37: Aug 31, 2014 09:44:37 am
      Having seen Capaldi in several critically acclaimed productions, his subsequent appearance in Dr Who does require an amount dumbing-down on the part of anyone who has followed the actor's career.
      To put his name in the same sentence as that buffoon Clarkson is a professional slight.
      As you point out 'tho Dave the show does have a global fan base and the benefits to the actor's career are obvious, if you are into it Capaldi can only acquit himself well in the role.       

      Depends what you mean by dumbing down, I found the Thick of It to be awful. He's been in some other good stuff though. Moffat's writing is actually quite complex for a prime time, family orientated TV show as well, it's getting acknowledged as such too. When was the last time you watched the show? Not that it's for everyone but you seem to be critiquing the current product based of your knowledge of the old?

      Clarkson is a c**t though.
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      Reply #38: Aug 31, 2014 10:02:03 am
      Depends what you mean by dumbing down, I found the Thick of It to be awful. He's been in some other good stuff though. Moffat's writing is actually quite complex for a prime time, family orientated TV show as well, it's getting acknowledged as such too. When was the last time you watched the show? Not that it's for everyone but you seem to be critiquing the current product based of your knowledge of the old?

      Clarkson is a c**t though.

      Haven't watched it for decades, not really into sci-fi per se and the repetitive nature of it (sci-fi) is probably the main reason for the lack of interest.
      Some of course is really entertaining - Blade Runner comes to mind and Space Odyssey, shows how out of touch I am, but I have seen loads of the recent stuff 'cos the kids and my good lady wife are into it and some does come over as infantile and a variation on a theme.
      For me that's how Dr Who interprets - infantile and a variation on a theme.

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      Reply #39: Aug 31, 2014 12:32:45 pm
      Haven't watched it for decades, not really into sci-fi per se and the repetitive nature of it (sci-fi) is probably the main reason for the lack of interest.
      Some of course is really entertaining - Blade Runner comes to mind and Space Odyssey, shows how out of touch I am, but I have seen loads of the recent stuff 'cos the kids and my good lady wife are into it and some does come over as infantile and a variation on a theme.
      For me that's how Dr Who interprets - infantile and a variation on a theme.



      Fair enough. Variation on a theme? Isn't that every TV show? The David Tennant years were very infantile.

      The Matt Smith ones were more double edged with proper story arcs and the frothy campness of it all became punctuated by a growing darker side.

      The two episodes in this season have expanded upon them darker elements.



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      Reply #40: Aug 31, 2014 01:03:59 pm
      Fair enough. Variation on a theme? Isn't that every TV show? The David Tennant years were very infantile.

      The Matt Smith ones were more double edged with proper story arcs and the frothy campness of it all became punctuated by a growing darker side.

      The two episodes in this season have expanded upon them darker elements.

      You're obviously into it whereas it has a minus attention span rating for me, it's horses and courses mate and if it gives you enjoyment fairy muff.

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      Reply #41: Aug 31, 2014 01:10:53 pm
      You're obviously into it whereas it has a minus attention span rating for me, it's horses and courses mate and if it gives you enjoyment fairy muff.



      I guess I'm bored this morning in particular too, waiting for the game!
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      Reply #42: Aug 31, 2014 03:22:55 pm
      I guess I'm bored this morning in particular too, waiting for the game!

      Well worth waiting for it was.
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      Reply #43: Aug 31, 2014 07:01:06 pm

      A backwards step? In the last couple of years the show has exploded on the international market, they were going round the globe doing world premieres. It's the biggest role up for grabs on British TV.

      It's by far the biggest role of Capaldi's career and the only move upward is to lead a multi-million dollar US show like a Breaking Bad/Walking Dead level or become a movie star. To most of the world this is his first exposure. This aint the Tom Baker days anymore.

      Also, from what I hear he is a big fan of the show.
      Have to agree to an extent. Not that many people knew who David Tennant was before he was in Dr Who and now he's played many roles in movies. It is a backwards step for Dr Who to have an older dr. I thought the recent younger doctors were better and they should have continued with that. I'm not totally convinced on Capaldi being the doctor either. I have not seem the usual charisma from the recent dr that has made him so popular. It kind of felt slightly stale watching the new series. I think it is important to play the DR well. It is a role that can make or break an acting career.
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      Reply #44: Sep 06, 2014 07:57:21 pm
      Spoiler Alert. It's crap.
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      Reply #45: Sep 06, 2014 10:06:42 pm

      Disagree.

      Enjoyed the episode, the banter between the Dr and Robin Hood was funny and their relationship devolved well in the episode.
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      Reply #46: Sep 06, 2014 10:18:06 pm
      Disagree.

      Enjoyed the episode, the banter between the Dr and Robin Hood was funny and their relationship devolved well in the episode.


      I just don't get it any more. The story lines are so thin for me. Since David Tenant got his claws into the part and his style of acting, with all the woos and arhs.

      The graphics/CGI seems so heavily relied upon.

      I really think they need new writers.

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      Reply #47: Sep 06, 2014 10:21:10 pm
      I just don't get it any more. The story lines are so thin for me. Since David Tenant got his claws into the part and his style of acting, with all the woos and arhs.

      The graphics/CGI seems so heavily relied upon.

      I really think try need new writers.



      Oh don't get me wrong I think the show has dipped since Russell T Davies departure.

      I reckon Matt Smith under him writing would have excelled. Steven Moffat just doesn't cut it for me on the less important episodes, the ones that keep the season interesting.

      But I still have to watch it, and I am sure a couple of great episodes will turn up sooner or later.
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      Reply #48: Sep 06, 2014 10:44:12 pm
      I still watch it, but it's just noise in the back ground.

      There seems no boundaries to the story line, anything is possible and probable.

      Christopher Ecclestone was good, dispite him being a manc, since he left, it's just lost its way.
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      Reply #49: Sep 07, 2014 12:03:08 am
      Well that was one of the worst episodes I've seen.

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