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      Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)

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      Kopite78
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1170: May 14, 2018 11:25:09 am
      his only real flaw is his temperament,

      And work rate in my opinion

      That would have driven Klopp mad


      I think what's key to Jonjo at Newcastle under Rafa is that Rafa rates him.. he was the manager who signed him from Charlton

      He's talented but a bit of a luxury
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1171: May 14, 2018 11:27:48 am
      And work rate in my opinion

      That would have driven Klopp mad


      I think what's key to Jonjo at Newcastle under Rafa is that Rafa rates him.. he was the manager who signed him from Charlton

      He's talented but a bit of a luxury

      I think it was MOTD that did a piece on how he switches off at certain times defensively.
      At the time it cost Newcastle and he was dropped, but there is no doubt he is their best creative outlet.
      Wouldn't call him a luxury player, but he would definitely need a partner in midfield to screen the back 4 and let Jonjo be the attacking outlet.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1172: May 14, 2018 11:30:16 am
      I think it was MOTD that did a piece on how he switches off at certain times defensively.
      At the time it cost Newcastle and he was dropped, but there is no doubt he is their best creative outlet.
      Wouldn't call him a luxury player, but he would definitely need a partner in midfield to screen the back 4 and let Jonjo be the attacking outlet.

      That's what I mean by luxury mate, just my wording on it

      Get someone doing the work behind him and give him the ball then he will come alive.

      Get intelligent runners in front of him and he will find them

      But when you lose the ball or things aren't coming off for him then I think Klopp would do his nut cause he wouldn't turn and track that often

      We'd see so many Klopp rants on the sideline at jonjo 😀
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1173: May 14, 2018 11:33:27 am
      That's what I mean by luxury mate, just my wording on it

      Get someone doing the work behind him and give him the ball then he will come alive.

      Get intelligent runners in front of him and he will find them

      But when you lose the ball or things aren't coming off for him then I think Klopp would do his nut cause he wouldn't turn and track that often

      We'd see so many Klopp rants on the sideline at jonjo 😀

      Oh absolutely. Would be a love/hate relationship.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1174: Oct 06, 2018 06:52:30 pm
      Would not mind seeing this fella back at Anfield. Lovely footballer
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1175: Oct 06, 2018 07:47:15 pm
      Would not mind seeing this fella back at Anfield. Lovely footballer

      I'll always have a soft spot for Jonjo after he told Fergie to f**k off 😂
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1176: Oct 06, 2018 10:50:47 pm
      I'll always have a soft spot for Jonjo after he told Fergie to f**k off 😂

      Likewise. Always rated him as a footballer as well.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1177: Oct 06, 2018 10:59:55 pm
      Would not mind seeing this fella back at Anfield. Lovely footballer

      Could not see the reasoning for his departure.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1178: Oct 07, 2018 01:07:33 am
      Could not see the reasoning for his departure.

      Shelvey works on a different wavelength to most midfielders,
      which is why he's so great and frustrating in equal measure.

      Sees a pass that very few will & loses his man under pressure defensively.
      Would be an ideal 10 in a team stacked with defensive midfielders...
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1179: Oct 07, 2018 07:16:36 am
      Shelvey works on a different wavelength to most midfielders,
      which is why he's so great and frustrating in equal measure.

      Sees a pass that very few will & loses his man under pressure defensively.
      Would be an ideal 10 in a team stacked with defensive midfielders...

      When it was good it was very very good.........
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1180: Oct 07, 2018 03:40:28 pm
      Could not see the reasoning for his departure.

      Didn't Carra say in an interview it was to do with his lack of discipline?

      Still would have to look at a cheeky bid if Newcastle go down.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1181: Oct 07, 2018 06:39:41 pm
      Didn't Carra say in an interview it was to do with his lack of discipline?

      Still would have to look at a cheeky bid if Newcastle go down.

      Lack of discipline, not following managers orders, generally being a tw*t.

      Didn't Gerrard collar him when he first arrived and told him to stop giving it billy big bollocks, saying he'd be out the door f**king quick if he carried on like he was.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1182: Oct 07, 2018 08:44:18 pm
      he has brain farts and couldn't cope with the pace of our play
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1183: Oct 07, 2018 09:20:38 pm
      he has brain farts and couldn't cope with the pace of our play

      I agree. Good player, but no where is he good enough to play under Klopp and for a CL club.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)
      Reply #1184: Oct 09, 2018 12:37:44 pm
      I agree. Good player, but no where is he good enough to play under Klopp and for a CL club.

      I kind of disagree as a Shelvey on top form is good enough but his form is probably too erratic to guarantee that.

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