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      Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool -> Swansea)

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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1081: Jun 08, 2013 12:30:44 pm
      I don't think our style of football suits Jonjo if I'm being honest. His first touch is plain awful for a #10. He gets dispossessed too easily, then looks pissed and either reacts or does fook all and doesn't chase back. What I do see in him is a player that would relish playing off a target man, this is where his physical play would come in handy. We've all seen that he is capable of getting into the box and scoring, but it's his overall play that is the main concern I have with him. Can he adapt into it? I doubt it, but I'm more than willing to keep a hold of him to find out.

      Still think a loan deal is ideal for him and us. Unless we get an offer that is too good to turn down.
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      Reply #1082: Jun 08, 2013 02:32:47 pm
      I know I'd rather Allen in Allen's position, and Allen in Shelvey's position, if I had to choose between the two.

      Totally agree. Allen is a far better midfielder.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1083: Jun 08, 2013 02:33:43 pm
      Could be that Shelvey going will pay for Luis Alberto coming in.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1084: Jun 09, 2013 02:53:16 am
      personally, i'd loan him out for a year to see how he develops. He's not good enough to start week in, week out, but could develop with a full season in another team.

      Alternativly, if Norwich offer 8 million then i'd sell up...
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1085: Jun 09, 2013 03:13:35 am
      Had a very high opinion of him until last season. Gone off the boil. Wouldn't mind a loan or a buy back clause if we sell but don't see him doing much if he stays.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1086: Jun 10, 2013 12:22:51 pm
      Had a very high opinion of him until last season. Gone off the boil. Wouldn't mind a loan or a buy back clause if we sell but don't see him doing much if he stays.

      Exact same. He had a good pre-season behind around this time last year and really thought he would kick on. Performances after that red card were not good enough tho.

      It's all in his head tho.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1087: Jun 10, 2013 12:40:34 pm
      He needs to be playing regularly.
      A season long loan could be great for him, but if that figure is accurate it would be tempting.
      I'd agree that the rest of his development is mental, but isn't that the difference between any player
      that is lauded as one of great potential and one that sees that potential out.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1088: Jul 03, 2013 04:09:37 pm
      Reds confirm Shelvey sale
      Liverpool Football Club have confirmed Jonjo Shelvey has completed a transfer to Swansea City.

       The 21-year-old spent three years at Anfield after joining from Charlton Athletic in May 2010.

      In total, he made 69 appearances for the Reds, scoring seven goals.

      Everybody at Liverpool FC would like to wish Jonjo all the best for the future.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/138463-reds-confirm-shelvey-sale

      All the best to Jonjo. Very likeable lad, with a lot of talent and potential, but he lacked the mental part of his game, especially in terms of discipline. Wishing him all the best at Swansea!
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1089: Jul 03, 2013 04:50:15 pm
      Good luck at Swansea, Jonjo!
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1090: Jul 03, 2013 04:53:48 pm
      Good luck baldy.

      I think he will benefit from more regular football and no doubt he'll get goals for them.

      Hopefully not against us but I half expect it.
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      Reply #1091: Jul 03, 2013 05:01:32 pm
      Good luck Jonjo, YNWA.
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      Reply #1092: Jul 03, 2013 05:15:05 pm
      Shelvey changed the game when coming on as a sub against some very good European teams. Only reason he doesn't merit  a starting place is because Gerrard is having a long career and Liverpool brought Allen.  Rather have used Shelvey instead of buying Allen.

      I'll have what cheese you're having because clearly you've been dreaming these supposed 'very good European teams' we were playing.

      Wensleydale? Maybe a slice of Blue Stilton with your crackers? Perhaps a liberal helping of Dorset Blue Vinney even?
      « Last Edit: Jul 03, 2013 05:22:29 pm by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1093: Jul 03, 2013 05:26:10 pm
      Shame its permanent not a loan - but another £6m in the bank and a tidy profit

      So the net spend this window is now £4m give or take ( Iago / Alberto = fee for Andy, Mignolet  = Shelvey + 4m, assuming Ming was £10m )
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      Reply #1094: Jul 03, 2013 05:43:22 pm
      I think this is a short sighted and frankly idiotic decision by the management team.  When I think of how much we paid for Joe Allen and how little we will receive from Shelvey it makes my blood boil.  I think Shelvey shows incredible promise and will prove to be an invaluable player for Swansea once he gets a regular run in the team.  I actually cant think of a transfer that has angered me more over many years.  At least when we sold Torres we received a ridiculous fee for him. Im disgusted at this sale.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1095: Jul 03, 2013 05:55:05 pm
      Love this from Suso.

      @suso30fernandez
      Good luck @shelveyJ .
      Ill miss you man .. Show some tiki taka over there !! X

      Too bad he could not do that here.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1096: Jul 03, 2013 06:26:01 pm
      Feeling a bit sad TBH. Always had a soft spot for Jonjo.

      He's 21 and had a bad second half. We sold him way too early. Hope this decision dosen't come back and haunt us. Atleast he is willing to take on a man and have a crack on goal. Something Hendo or Allen will never do.

      Such a shame. Best of luck man.
      « Last Edit: Jul 03, 2013 06:36:29 pm by Arrie »
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1097: Jul 03, 2013 06:42:25 pm
      Bags of potential, but the head to fulfil it?

      Would have preferred had we loaned him rather then sell but obviously the boss had no plans for him

      All the best Jonjo and thanks for your efforts
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1098: Jul 03, 2013 06:43:40 pm
      Hope we've got a buy-back clause in there.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1099: Jul 03, 2013 06:54:38 pm
      Just seen his tweets on the main site: 

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/138510-shelvey-thanks-liverpool-fans

      That is the mark of a class act.  Wish him all the best in the future and I really hope he turns good on his talent.  Just hope he never makes his way to the Mancs or the Bitters....
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1100: Jul 03, 2013 06:57:39 pm
      Bags of potential, but the head to fulfil it?


      He's 21. Still a kid. A bit naive. Some mature quickly and some takes time. Shelvey is from the later I guess. The guy's quality. He takes risk on the pitch, make things happen, can score unlike Henderson In the process, he may lose the ball sometimes but got the vision and awareness. Was awesome at the start of the season. Loves the club, the city. If Allen perform badly this season as well, I bet he won't be sold.

      We got rid of him way, way too early.
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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1101: Jul 03, 2013 07:16:53 pm
      Deserved another year just for having a go at Ferguson.

      Maybe it's a mentality thing that has seen him moved on but I think he'll do well at Swansea.
      I thought he'd do well here given time, but we'll never know now.

      I hope we have somebody pretty special coming in to midfield,
      otherwise we could regret letting Shelvey go.

      6M. Guess that means we'll get F**k all for Spearing.

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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1102: Jul 03, 2013 08:53:45 pm
      Fee seems low considering his age and nationality, usually both demand a premium.

      Will always be remembered for that moment with Alco and his tweets seemed to be from the heart, fair play Jonjo and good luck.

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      Re: Jonjo Shelvey Player Thread
      Reply #1103: Jul 03, 2013 08:59:25 pm
      Always had a soft spot for Jonjo and sad to see him go.

      Can see him doing really well at Swansea.

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