Hull 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match Chat

There was actually something to play for - 6th place.

But I'm not sure whether the players knew they could still get 6th. Whatever it is, whether they know it or not, it's not an excuse.

Oh I see.  Players fault.

What exactly does Rafa get paid for?  I assumed it was for motivating the players... dang, my mistake.

We all know Rafa and the players are to blame. But as it's said, at the end of the day, Rafa does not make passes and does not take shots.

And we're all going off topic  

Motivation? HAHAHA.

Give me 60 grand a week. I'll show you F***ing motivation.

Players aren't paid enough to motivate themselves?

Exactly!

Actually laughing my head off.

Motivation? HAHAHA.

Give me 60 grand a week. I'll show you f**king motivation.

Exactly!

Actually laughing my head off.

Spot On.

Oh I see.  Players fault.

What exactly does Rafa get paid for?  I assumed it was for motivating the players... dang, my mistake.

Their professionals and shouldn't need motovating, yes your mistake.

Bunch of pampered arsehole's,once you put on the red jersey that should be enough motivation.
The players have really let themselves down this season.

EDIT: Next season watch how they come out wax lyrical about how much they want to win everything! but wont put the F***ing effort in thats required.

Oh I see.  Players fault.

What exactly does Rafa get paid for?  I assumed it was for motivating the players... dang, my mistake.

Yep, your mistake.

Their professionals and shouldn't need motovating, yes your mistake.

Shouldn't need... but they do.

So who's responsible for that? I see you don't know football management then.

"couldn't do anything, players weren't motivated" - then motivate them then!!!! We all look to Istanbul and claim Rafa got the players switched on at half time.  When it goes in his favour, it is because he is a great manager.  When the players play crap... it is because of the players.

There was actually something to play for - 6th place.

But I'm not sure whether the players knew they could still get 6th. Whatever it is, whether they know it or not, it's not an excuse.

We all know Rafa and the players are to blame. But as it's said, at the end of the day, Rafa does not make passes and does not take shots.

And we're all going off topic  

Well said. 6th place was there for the taking, that alone would have given us an extra 2 weeks preparation for the new season.

Not only that, it does my nut in when people say there is nothing to play for, they are pulling on the most famous shirt in the world! They are playing for Liverpool Football Club, whether it be a friendly or a Cup Final, they are playing for the Club!!!!!

Watching many games this season has drawn me to the conclusion that quite a few players are blatantly unaware of this.

Shouldn't need... but they do.

So who's responsible for that? I see you don't know football management then.

"couldn't do anything, players weren't motivated" - then motivate them then!!!! We all look to Istanbul and claim Rafa got the players switched on at half time.  When it goes in his favour, it is because he is a great manager.  When the players play crap... it is because of the players.

Istanbul - Champions League final, 3-0 down, looking to turn things around in a fight we're not out of.

KC Stadium - Hull. Last game of the season and 6th to play for after all the sh*te.

You are ignorant if you think Rafa is the problem here.

I see.  No-one told the players then that they should play with PRIDE?  - and go for 6th place...

djdan

I am disappointed too but let us not accuse the players of not showing pride today!

This detracts from the effort and resolve the opposition (Hull) displayed and it also insults our players.

Rest assured; our boys did show pride and integrity today. the same goes for this season!

Just because our boys have not performed to a level we and they expect does not equal a want in "pride". Rafa's (and Sammy's) Reds are full of pride and have conducted themselves well in the face of a trying season.

In the CL final against Milan, the one in Greece, we lost but I was still proud of our boys...losing and under performing does not indicate a lack of pride.

Get behind the Reds rather than having a dig at their integrity...trust me, when you throw smears about their "pride" you insult their integrity.

No team managed by Rafa (or Sammy), captained by Stevie and containing Carra will EVER be lacking in pride.

End of.

Shouldn't need... but they do.

So who's responsible for that? I see you don't know football management then.

"couldn't do anything, players weren't motivated" - then motivate them then!!!! We all look to Istanbul and claim Rafa got the players switched on at half time.  When it goes in his favour, it is because he is a great manager.  When the players play crap... it is because of the players.

It's the End of the season. the last game what you expect of the match? a routing.

You talk about motivation.Players was clearly motivated against Atletico Madrid. In which they have given their everything.

You make taking this defeat on heart or maybe you are having another dig at rafa.

Clearly man This season has been sh*t and sh*t happens.

So FFS leave it mate atleast for now.

As long as the players realise how much hard earned money the fans have spent following the team whether home or away.
Money that is difficult to come by for many true fans.
As long as they realise they owe us all a better attitude and season come august.
As long as they realise that hearts have been broken this season.
As long as they know that we will all be back for the new season believing that the players will give everything for the club we love.
YNWA

Have to say Rafa has to take his share of the blame for this season, it is not just the results some of the football we've played this season is the worst I've seen from any Liverpool team.

Today was awful to many average players in the red shirts. Players like Kuyt great attitudes but no way is the lad ever going to be good enough for a title winning side. I can go into other players but I think we all know them.

 

Istanbul - Champions League final, 3-0 down, looking to turn things around in a fight we're not out of.

KC Stadium - Hull. Last game of the season and 6th to play for after all the sh*te.

You are ignorant if you think Rafa is the problem here.

But ultimately... is he or is he not responsible for motivating the players?

You are the ignorant one if you only pick and choose the results that favour your stance that Rafa is blameless.

Shouldn't need... but they do.

So who's responsible for that? I see you don't know football management then.

"couldn't do anything, players weren't motivated" - then motivate them then!!!! We all look to Istanbul and claim Rafa got the players switched on at half time.  When it goes in his favour, it is because he is a great manager.  When the players play crap... it is because of the players.

The manager gives the team talk, when the players go onto the pitch It's up to them to do the talking.

But ultimately... is he or is he not responsible for motivating the players?

You are the ignorant one if you only pick and choose the results that favour your stance that Rafa is blameless.

There's no 'ultimately'. Football is debate. There's effectively no right or wrong answers you could argue.

I could say, you are ignorant if you only pick and choose the results that favour your stance that Rafa is to blame.

Same thing pal.

Oh I see.  Players fault.

What exactly does Rafa get paid for?  I assumed it was for motivating the players... dang, my mistake.

Rafa gets paid to motivate the players and ensure that if any aren't up to the challenge for whatever reason (motivation is one of those reasons) to replace them.  With close to zero transfer kitty available, replacing them isn't a realistic option.  He also gets paid to choose the tactics and decide who to sell etc.  No point selling though if you don't have anyone to replace them with.

edit to stay on topic:  Judas doesn't hold the record of youngest ever player anymore, congrats Jack Robinson.

This is the Hull game post match thread.

There are separate threads discussing the season, Rafa, the owners and individual players.

Hull v Liverpool discussion below.

Shouldn't need... but they do.

So who's responsible for that? I see you don't know football management then.

"couldn't do anything, players weren't motivated" - then motivate them then!!!! We all look to Istanbul and claim Rafa got the players switched on at half time.  When it goes in his favour, it is because he is a great manager.  When the players play crap... it is because of the players.

Kinda like your apparant lack of knowledege about football in general.

After seeing our players play sh*te all season, did you really expect them to be right up for Hull on the last game of the season? They should be for every game, but unfortunately this season it hasn't worked like that.

Stop the crusade against Rafa and actually try and recognize the other problems. Rafa is not infallible, but for you to lay so much on him is insulting.

Think the Rafa Debate thread needs to be opened.

This is the Hull game post match thread.

There are separate threads discussing the season, Rafa, the owners and individual players.

Hull v Liverpool discussion below.

Kinda like your apparant lack of knowledege about football in general.

After seeing our players play sh*te all season, did you really expect them to be right up for Hull on the last game of the season? They should be for every game, but unfortunately this season it hasn't worked like that.

Stop the crusade against Rafa and actually try and recognize the other problems. Rafa is not infallible, but for you to lay so much on him is insulting.

Great managers dont become sh*t overnight, and to make LFC who finishes 2nd last year flying all mighty turns into this bloody pulp takes a master stroke of genious.

Great managers dont become sh*t overnight

That makes no sense. Isn't that often said about players who have a had a long dip in form? i.e. 'they'll be back'.

Rafa will be back under the right circumstances.