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      Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread

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      Reply #10166: Jun 16, 2021 08:14:09 pm
      Don’t do it Rafa…

      Not sure how this ends well. If he goes there and does a crap job he's going to get endless more abuse from their fans.

      If he goes there and does a great job....I don't want to even think about that to be honest.....
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      Reply #10167: Jun 16, 2021 08:29:20 pm
      Not sure how this ends well. If he goes there and does a crap job he's going to get endless more abuse from their fans.

      If he goes there and does a great job....I don't want to even think about that to be honest.....

      I thought Spuds would have been all over him as free sacking Jose, Everton… not sure what he can achieve there as the club doesn’t have much for having a winning mentality history..
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      Reply #10168: Jun 16, 2021 08:38:10 pm
      Not really bothered tbh
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      Reply #10169: Jun 16, 2021 08:42:43 pm
      The fume
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      Reply #10170: Jun 16, 2021 09:15:44 pm
      If it boils some Evertonian piss then I’m
      In.. 😂

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      Reply #10171: Jun 16, 2021 09:28:19 pm
      Rafa makes legendary status for the miracle, but he is not high in the hiearchy for me. He got the club, he was brilliant with Hillsborough and he operated under appalling owners, yet the style was sh*t, cautious and defence first Mourinho like. It might have been different if he got a bigger budget, but his fundamental coaching instincts made for dull sh*te a lot of the time.
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      Reply #10172: Jun 16, 2021 10:12:00 pm
      Rafa makes legendary status for the miracle, but he is not high in the hiearchy for me. He got the club, he was brilliant with Hillsborough and he operated under appalling owners,

      You should have just stopped there

      Liverpool legend for me

      Simple as that
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      Reply #10173: Jun 16, 2021 10:26:16 pm
      You disagree about the style, the eleven men behnind the ball without possession? It's what every team outside the contenders do to us now. It's anti sport and sh*t for the fans who want the defensive team to win!
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      Reply #10174: Jun 16, 2021 11:31:09 pm
      Rafa is too good for  Everton surely !
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      Reply #10175: Jun 17, 2021 08:59:35 am
      Legend !!! love the man, can do anything he wants.

      Good luck to him.

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      Reply #10176: Jun 17, 2021 10:31:25 am
      You disagree about the style, the eleven men behnind the ball without possession? It's what every team outside the contenders do to us now. It's anti sport and sh*t for the fans who want the defensive team to win!

      I'd disagree.

      Look at us at our best with Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres.

      Played fantastic football.
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      Reply #10177: Jun 17, 2021 10:32:51 am
      Will always have plenty of time for Rafa,the man is a legend in my eyes & will always get my utmost respect & if he does end up at Everton my  opinion of him won’t change.
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      Reply #10178: Jun 17, 2021 10:48:34 am
      If allowed to by the bitters he would get them up to about top 6 in a few seasons.

      He would find some good players for them cos they like to chuck money about and get their fingers burnt and he might actually find them a bit of value.

      Its not an ideal situation on the surface but if you break it down to basics hes the best coach on the market they can hope to attract, he will have a budget to spend which is what he's wanted for years and of course Rafa wants to move back to Merseyside.

      Their furious indignation is an absolute joy to see for now, but perhaps if all that boils away over time and they support him he could be a thorn in our side himself.

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      Reply #10179: Jun 17, 2021 10:57:59 am
      I'd disagree.

      Look at us at our best with Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres.

      Played fantastic football.

      That Team was class, and Rafa is a class act.
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      Reply #10180: Jun 17, 2021 10:58:59 am
      Yea the bitters fans being annoyed its rafa will be a laff. ;D
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      Reply #10181: Jun 17, 2021 11:53:11 am
      I'd disagree.

      Look at us at our best with Alonso, Masch, Gerrard and Torres.

      Played fantastic football.

      Another couple of years, with some backing, he'd have won the league.
      He had to build his team slowly, and he almost got there.
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      Reply #10182: Jun 17, 2021 01:58:57 pm
      Rafa was a class act for us, bringing home the Champions league trophy on that unforgettable night in 2005.
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      Reply #10183: Jun 17, 2021 03:50:26 pm
      You disagree about the style, the eleven men behnind the ball without possession? It's what every team outside the contenders do to us now. It's anti sport and sh*t for the fans who want the defensive team to win!
      You make it sound like we were parking the bus under Rafa. I suggest you watch again some of our games. Yes, we were organised and played a bit more defensively than under Jürgen, but that's basically 95% of the managers. That's a far cry from anti-football.
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      Reply #10184: Jun 17, 2021 04:41:39 pm
      You make it sound like we were parking the bus under Rafa. I suggest you watch again some of our games. Yes, we were organised and played a bit more defensively than under Jürgen, but that's basically 95% of the managers. That's a far cry from anti-football.

      I think he’s mistaken with the Darren Farley version of  Rafa... 😂
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      Reply #10185: Jun 17, 2021 07:04:19 pm
      Rafa was a class act for us, bringing home the Champions league trophy on that unforgettable night in 2005.

      Of course he was, and getting to the final again two years later. I've already said he really understood the club and he was great for us during a terrible time. That doesn't mean he's perfect, unimprovable and immune from criticism. I think his coaching instincts were defence first and there were a lot of dull matches at that time. Hansen criticised him for it, Gerrard is less than warm on his coaching and managerial style. We probably would have won the title and been more attractive if he'd been given the funds he needed, so there's that. Why people jump on your back as soon as you are less than venerative about him is bewildering. He's great, but he's not at the level of Shankly, Paisley, Dalglish and, I think, Klopp.
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      Reply #10186: Jun 17, 2021 07:52:30 pm
      Of course he was, and getting to the final again two years later. I've already said he really understood the club and he was great for us during a terrible time. That doesn't mean he's perfect, unimprovable and immune from criticism. I think his coaching instincts were defence first and there were a lot of dull matches at that time. Hansen criticised him for it, Gerrard is less than warm on his coaching and managerial style. We probably would have won the title and been more attractive if he'd been given the funds he needed, so there's that. Why people jump on your back as soon as you are less than venerative about him is bewildering. He's great, but he's not at the level of Shankly, Paisley, Dalglish and, I think, Klopp.

      You called his style 'anti sport' which is absolute bullshit

      That's why people call you out on nonsense like that
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      Reply #10187: Jun 17, 2021 08:20:26 pm
      You called his style 'anti sport' which is absolute bullshit

      That's why people call you out on nonsense like that

      No, there was more nuance than that. I said that anti football is how non contenders play us now, or at least 19/20. I never said we under Rafa were anti sport, but I drew a comparison. Similar approach, not the same thing. We had great players for a start. Mourinho's 2005 Chelsea were safety first but they were still a great team. I didn't like the style of that time, it's just taste for want of a better word.
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      Reply #10188: Jun 17, 2021 08:23:38 pm
      No, there was more nuance than that. I said that anti football is how non contenders play us now, or at least 19/20. I never said we under Rafa were anti sport, but I drew a comparison. Similar approach, not the same thing. We had great players for a start. Mourinho's 2005 Chelsea were safety first but they were still a great team. I didn't like the style of that time, it's just taste for want of a better word.

      Ok, I'll play along.

      You said his style was sh*t and that is still nonsense.

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