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      Raul Meireles (Fenerbahçe)

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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1320: Mar 06, 2012 09:58:20 pm
      I suppose the same could be said of Frank Lampard. Or better still - a fit and fully firing Ste. Gerrard.


      Yeah, but Stevie is hardly fit these days and wouldn't you rather have two midfielders capable of scoring goals regularly.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1321: Mar 06, 2012 10:57:25 pm
      Ya better at getting forward then his replacement

      Bit unfair Corballyred - Henderson is  young and has done a shift.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1322: Mar 06, 2012 11:01:04 pm
      Im talking about the other lad mate i like Henderson
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1323: Mar 06, 2012 11:01:06 pm
      He does remind me of Hendo.
      Has a good touch and movement,
      But is often played out of position.
      Excellent when played in the hole and so is Hendo.
      Both often played out wide and less effectively.
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      Reply #1324: Mar 06, 2012 11:05:55 pm
      Im talking about the other lad mate i like Henderson

      Oh, Charlie - again. Right you are, my mistake
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1325: Mar 06, 2012 11:20:00 pm
      Deserved a pay rise in my opinion, just baffled at times why we let him go and have a fresh new mid field yet miereles,maxi,lucas & gerrard served us well.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1326: Mar 07, 2012 12:09:28 am
      Ah Raul,

      Only memory in my mind

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      Reply #1327: Mar 07, 2012 04:28:49 pm
      I'll remember the goal vs. Chelsea and obviously the belter against Wolves.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1328: Mar 08, 2012 12:48:22 am
      the goal against Everton was good too.. damn you Raul.

      I also remember fondly this passage of play against the mancs.. at the start of the game Kuyt got a hat trick I believe... I think Suarez had it and passed wide to Raul and he held it for a bit and gave a long ball back in a stunning area where Suarez should have smacked it right into the net, but the pass was just too good and too precise, too quick for Luis! that was Raul right??
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1329: Mar 08, 2012 11:36:00 am
      Indeed Diego and that "flawed" logic works both ways; doesn't it?  :-\

      I mean; if we overlook his lack of prowess in the tackling department then surely we can do the same for Henderson or whoever.  ;)

      Or, alternatively if we praise Raul for leading the midfield in assists last season... then surely we should, at least, afford the same luxury to whoever's leading the team, in that particular area this season; no? Wouldn't that be a reasonable?

      I pretty much defended Raul, when he was here, (give or take the odd joke about his tackling) as I seen him as a talented footballer. Much as I do with our current crop of new boys.

      We've an old saying where I'm from "I didn't come down in the last shower" - I use it often but usually never more than once to someone who doesn't know me.   :angel:
      Ah... you saw the question mark "A MoTD player?"... handy fuckers them punctuation marks, ain't they? Thanks for the reply. I happen to agree.

      Don't understand the need of constant irony but yeah, pretty much we don't disagree, and I never implied you said he was a MOTD player - some people in this forum do talk about him as a 'highlights' player though, which I believe to be very unfair to his qualities.

      And I would certainly overlook Hendo's tackling if he provided the team with as many goals and assists as Raul did, but he isn't doing that at the moment, so I think we've actually gone backwards in that department - not by a huge margin, but I think Raul did better for us in his only season here. As for Adam, I've always defended him because I think he gets ridiculous stick and is blamed for everything, but I still think Raul is a much more complete player. They have quite different roles in the squad anyway, so it's harder to compare.

      And just a bit more of substance to what I called a 'flawed logic'...

      Raul Meireles, The Portuguese Pussy - Mins per tackle: 32 (2010/11)
      Jordan Henderson, The English Warrior - Mins per tackle: 52 (2011/12)

      He does remind me of Hendo.
      Has a good touch and movement,
      But is often played out of position.
      Excellent when played in the hole and so is Hendo.
      Both often played out wide and less effectively.

      Exactly. I don't compare him to Adam at all, the most obvious and fair comparison would be with Henderson, his "replacement" if I can call him that.

      And if Raul "only looks great in highlights", I must say good then, because Hendo doesn't look great not even in highlights. And that is because he isn't great at all. He might very well turn into a great one (and I'm putting faith that he will), but he isn't, not yet. The only attribute in which he excels is his short passing, but in terms of creativity, finishing, dribbling, he still has a lot to improve.

      I'm not sure if that's a 'confidence' thing, perhaps more a case of mentality, but Hendo really could do with more adventure to his game. Yes, we all appreciate the pass and movement nature of his game, but there are times in which just the short and safe play isn't the best option. Against Arsenal, he had a chance to have a go for himself in front of the goal, decided to go backwards instead, and passed to Kuyt - awful decision, since the Dutchman was already marked by then and we wasted a great chance. Sometimes he just kills the pace of a counter attack by not playing the ball forwards! It's all nice and good for the young fella to keep the ball rolling, but sometimes a midfielder do have to play a long ball, do the unexpected, and I'm hoping he'll develop this part of his game in the near future.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1330: Mar 08, 2012 11:59:01 am
      He has a great shot on him. :D
      Loved that and his *ahem* tekkers.
      That much needed ability to hit the f**king target.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1331: Mar 09, 2012 07:55:04 pm
      And just a bit more of substance to what I called a 'flawed logic'...

      Raul Meireles, The Portuguese Pussy - Mins per tackle: 32 (2010/11)
      Jordan Henderson, The English Warrior - Mins per tackle: 52 (2011/12)
      You can't argue with stats, I suppose, or can you? Some might want to and even suggest that the quality of the tackle, not the quantity is what matters but to be honest it's all irrelevant to me Diego. Why?... Because when push comes to shove; like it's says in the title... Raul Meireles (Chelsea). I did like him when he was here. I don't care one iota about him now... hence the joking and teasing.

      I don't know why he went, for sure (no-one does). I don't know if he was wanted here or didn't want to be here. He could well have been more of an asset than Henderson is right now but he does have seven years experience and head-start on Jordan.

      He might very well turn into a great one (and I'm putting faith that he will), but he isn't, not yet. The only attribute in which he excels is his short passing, but in terms of creativity, finishing, dribbling, he still has a lot to improve.
      Whole-heartedly agree mate. I must also add the hope that, after seven years of improvement, Jordan the Red ends up better than Raul the Blue.

      By the way; the 'irony' wasn't aimed at you.

      And on that bombshell... goodnight.   ;D
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1332: Mar 15, 2012 11:17:31 pm
      Apparently he isn't happy with Villas-Boas' sacking and wants out of Stamford Bridge in the summer.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1333: Mar 15, 2012 11:45:01 pm
      Was a big fan of Raul when he was here. At the end of the day you've got to ask the question - him or Adam? Yes he was a bit of a pussy but he had the right ideas going forward and would have no doubt have contributed to us winning a few more points than we already have at the moment.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1334: Mar 15, 2012 11:59:01 pm
      Wasn't in the squad last night and was taken off after 38 minutes on Saturday.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1335: Mar 16, 2012 12:05:39 am
      Wasn't in the squad last night and was taken off after 38 minutes on Saturday.
      He was on his 3rd yellow ,Adryan.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1336: Mar 16, 2012 12:14:57 am
      He was on his 3rd yellow ,Adryan.

      Ah, makes sense then. Didn't know :P Thanks!
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1337: May 25, 2012 10:57:52 pm
      Deserved a pay rise in my opinion, just baffled at times why we let him go and have a fresh new mid field yet miereles,maxi,lucas & gerrard served us well.
      and now Kenny is gone and we finished 8th with some of the worst records that i have seen in my life time supporting Liverpool, and i'm 43 :-/
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      Reply #1338: May 25, 2012 11:02:59 pm
      He didn't deserve a pay rise. I think he should have left. We got 12 million for him, which was a very good offer and I think selling him was the right decision. I have no regrets with him leaving.

      What the mistake was, is that we didn't have enough time to replace in last summer, because he left on deadline day, but we should have brought in a replacment in January. Especially after Lucas got a bad injury. The money we got for Meireles needs to be spent on a central midfielder this summer - or we could use Aquilani and spend that money towards a striker.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1339: May 26, 2012 01:05:59 am
      F**k him fits in perfect with the Chav tw*ts.

      His finger to Kenny and Clarke after Arsenal and his general lack of disrespect for the club, his sh*t hair cuts and the way he was embracing Chelsea players a week after joining as if he had being there a lifetime pisses me off every time I think about the pr**k.
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      Re: Raul Meireles (Chelsea)
      Reply #1340: May 28, 2012 05:20:57 pm
      Making more money at Chelsea and is now an European champion. Replaced by inferior players. I know who lost and who won in this deal...
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      Reply #1341: May 28, 2012 05:35:36 pm
      Making more money at Chelsea and is now an European champion. Replaced by inferior players. I know who lost and who won in this deal...

      The only plus side is ... I think we only got 500k more than what we paid for him a year before!! ;D
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      Reply #1342: May 29, 2012 03:24:12 am
      he used us as a stepping stone. torres did too i guess but he is not happy with himself and his life anymore whereas raul probably couldn't care less. hope it's fun while it lasts for those boys.
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      Raul Meireles is on the way to Fenerbahçe
      Reply #1343: Sep 03, 2012 03:46:21 pm
      After Dirk Kuyt, Joseph Yobo and Milos Krasic; Fenerbahçe is about to add Raul Meireles to its squad. The club informed Istanbul Stock Exchange today about Raul Meireles. It's a routine formality in Turkey; when a club informs ISE about a player, it means that the transfer is done and it will be announced within 1-2 days (the transfer window will close in 5 september). Another great transfer for us, but we've already been defeated in CL, i wish the club could do the transfers earlier.


      http://www.fenerbahce.org/fb2008/detay.asp?ContentID=30619
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      Re: Raul Meireles is on the way to Fenerbahçe
      Reply #1344: Sep 03, 2012 07:09:59 pm
      Strange Premier League career.

      Very peculiar.
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      Reply #1345: Sep 03, 2012 10:13:09 pm
      It's been completed and confirmed now.
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      Reply #1346: Sep 03, 2012 10:29:41 pm
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      Reply #1347: Sep 04, 2012 01:45:34 am
      What a good squad now:

                  Sow-Kuyt (Alex)
      Stoch-Topal-Meireles-Krasic

      World Class.

      The bad thing is that no CL for this season
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      Re: Raul Meireles is on the way to Fenerbahçe
      Reply #1348: Sep 04, 2012 04:58:46 am
      i knew chelsea would get rid of him. probably score some proper screamers in that league.
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      Re: Raul Meireles is on the way to Fenerbahçe
      Reply #1349: Sep 04, 2012 07:02:15 am
      After Dirk Kuyt, Joseph Yobo and Milos Krasic; Fenerbahçe is about to add Raul Meireles to its squad. The club informed Istanbul Stock Exchange today about Raul Meireles. It's a routine formality in Turkey; when a club informs ISE about a player, it means that the transfer is done and it will be announced within 1-2 days (the transfer window will close in 5 september). Another great transfer for us, but we've already been defeated in CL, i wish the club could do the transfers earlier.


      http://www.fenerbahce.org/fb2008/detay.asp?ContentID=30619
      Congratulation mate :) he's proven quality one, good signing.
       

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