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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #23: Sep 03, 2010 01:02:30 pm
      I am not going to give him any kind of reception, negative nor positive.

      Pretty much how I feel, although saying that I'm also not arsed, because I'm not going.

      Come on lads, Owen made a mistake by not staying on when Benitez came. He wanted to come back to Anfield from Madrid but Camacho told Benitez that he wasn't fit enough. That's why  he went to Newcastle. As for him going to Manure, Whisky nose was the only Premiership manager prepared to take him (remember him hawking himself around the managers?)

      And boy, has he paid for making that mistake.

      Liverpool supporters are too big to jeer one of our own. (However, I might make an exception in the case of Diouf) We never jeered Keeganand we never jeered McManaman and they did exactly the same as Owen. Let's show the mancs that we couldn't care less that he's playing for them.

      As far as I can recall Owen went to Newcastle because his england place was on the line and he listened to his agent/representatives rather than Rafa who was doing a deal for him but wasn't prepared to pay over the odds for him, Rafa told him to hang on, but he didn't.

      As for jeering players, it has happened before, Collymore when he returned with Villa, Mcmanaman was given grief at the Blackburn away game after his Barcelona deal had fallen through and as for Keegan he was given grief by Liverpool fans towards the end of the 76/77 season after he came out pretty early and said he was leaving Liverpool.
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      Reply #24: Sep 03, 2010 01:03:10 pm
      As far as im concerened he turned his back on us and it bit him in the ass, he's a united player so i hate him, but i wouldnt give him stick just because carra has asked.

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      Reply #25: Sep 03, 2010 01:23:03 pm
      Anyway who cares about Owen being there.

      Just sing Luis Garcia's song a little louder, he after all got us to our first European Cup final in 20 years, not that little sh*t welsh dwarf!!
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #26: Sep 03, 2010 01:25:29 pm
      In many ways the best kind of treatment we could give Owen is complete silence; cheers for everyone on the teamsheet then his name and complete silence. Still a dickhead though.
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      Reply #27: Sep 03, 2010 02:01:34 pm
      I am not going to give him any kind of reception, negative nor positive. In my eyes, he doesn't deserve it. After he left the club the way he did, I will never forgive him. He was my childhood hero.

      I'm not so annoyed that he plays for the Man U Scum - let's be honest, he was having trouble getting a gig and I guess the prospect of a top club was too good.  But the way he left LFC was sad and it still hurts. For me no reception sounds right - I'm giving him credit for having the guts to come and play for Carra.
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      Reply #28: Sep 03, 2010 02:01:58 pm
      Is this game on television anywhere!

      Delayed coverage on LFCTV tomorrow night.

      19:00      The Match: Jamie Carragher's Testimonial
      All the action from this afternoon's Jamie Carragher testimonial match at Anfield

      As`regards Owen, 2 things, its all in aid of kids charities so i don't think abuse sort of fits with the beneficiaries of the day. Secondly, I'm sure he'll be back playin for the dark side and that'll be a more fitting scenario for much, much abuse.

      I know Carra said he did what he felt was best for his family but the dark side, really? He didn't need the cash and if he wanted to play there would of been other NW sides that would of given him a 'pay as you play', he didn't give a sh*t about LFC. He went to Madrid on a glory hunt. Watchin him celebrate his winning goal at Manure reminded me of the FA cup final at the Millennium, that bit me badly.

      Sorry Mikey, you make a mistake, you live with it.
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      Reply #29: Sep 03, 2010 02:06:01 pm
      What if he scores and kiss the badge. That will piss the maniacs and us. But if you ask me I'd love it.
      The sh*t is a mercenary b***ard the only badge he kisses is his own
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      Reply #30: Sep 03, 2010 02:11:43 pm
      I'll just ignore the snidey little manc c**t is even there.
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      Reply #31: Sep 03, 2010 03:11:54 pm
      The only arse he kisses is his Ow(e)n. (Geddit)?




      Not a legend anywhere. Thats what he takes into HIS retirement when it comes
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #32: Sep 03, 2010 03:22:25 pm
      Pretty much how I feel, although saying that I'm also not arsed, because I'm not going.

      As far as I can recall Owen went to Newcastle because his england place was on the line and he listened to his agent/representatives rather than Rafa who was doing a deal for him but wasn't prepared to pay over the odds for him, Rafa told him to hang on, but he didn't.

      As for jeering players, it has happened before, Collymore when he returned with Villa, Mcmanaman was given grief at the Blackburn away game after his Barcelona deal had fallen through and as for Keegan he was given grief by Liverpool fans towards the end of the 76/77 season after he came out pretty early and said he was leaving Liverpool.

      I think you need to tell the facts as they are there mate. We had around 8m on the table. Necastle had 17m on the table. There was no deal to be had with us when they were offering twice as much. As Carra said, we were 'blown out of the water'. Also, as I recall before the season started Owen put a statement out saying he wanted to come back to Liverpool. That gave us a month to do the deal. But as we left it until the last minute ( like this window just gone ) Madrid basically said Newcastle or you sit in the stands for 5 months until January. No pro wants to sit in the stands. At the end of the day, benitez sold him to raise money for Luis and Alonso in the knowledge he had cisse to step in. Thats Football. No problems there.

      Benitez could have signed him back after a year at Newcasle as his contact had so many holes in it. He didnt want him. Thats Football. Finally, Owen contacted Liverpool before he joined the mancs. Benitez didnt want him. Again, thats football. No rights or wrongs there.

      As for Owen now, he neither angers me or inspires me. I feel no emotion now. I will always respect what he did for Liverpool. I respect the fact that he is coming back to play for his mate in his testimonial. He was a superb servant and ambassador to the club in his time here, always a professional.

      For me, it will be nice to see him in a real red shirt again. But at the end of the day it is Carra's day, one that he richly deserves. It is a day for celebration and its all going to a good cause. It isn't about Michael Owen and anyone who boos, shouts abuse etc will just be making an absolute a**hole of themselves.

      I will be going for Carra, to show my respect for a true Liverpool legend. He is a credit to the club and the city.

      Well done Carra.....!!
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      Reply #33: Sep 03, 2010 03:35:05 pm
      I would happily applaud one of Liverpool's finest. I can't really understand the comments seeing as he only joined Man Utd to stop the rot in his career. Imagine the situation. 'Well I've been offered the chance to join one of the biggest clubs in the world (admittedly) which can get me back competing at the top level or I can join a relegation battling club surrounded by sh*t players at Wolves. You know I think I might join Wolves!' Only an idiot would do that and Michael Owen's no idiot. And let's remember the countless times he said he desired a move back to Liverpool. He'll no doubt admit that he was stupid to leave Liverpool The guy was heartbroken in 2005 when he was told by Rafa Benitez that he couldn't rejoin Liverpool because Liverpool couldn't afford him. And given the chance to have signed for Liverpool last season he'd have taken it in a heartbeat and turned down Man Utd - no doubts about that. We should have gone in for him again last season, but no Rafa thought it'd be better to stick with one proper centre forward in Fernando Torres and believing that N'Gog was a better 2nd option than Michael. Ridiculous. He'll get the applause from me. Unlike others I put preference over his trophy winning exploits far higher than him signing for the Man Utd.
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      Reply #34: Sep 03, 2010 03:35:58 pm
      I think you need to tell the facts as they are there mate. We had around 8m on the table. Necastle had 17m on the table. There was no deal to be had with us when they were offering twice as much. As Carra said, we were 'blown out of the water'. Also, as I recall before the season started Owen put a statement out saying he wanted to come back to Liverpool. That gave us a month to do the deal. But as we left it until the last minute ( like this window just gone ) Madrid basically said Newcastle or you sit in the stands for 5 months until January. No pro wants to sit in the stands. At the end of the day, benitez sold him to raise money for Luis and Alonso in the knowledge he had cisse to step in. Thats Football. No problems there.

      Benitez could have signed him back after a year at Newcasle as his contact had so many holes in it. He didnt want him. Thats Football. Finally, Owen contacted Liverpool before he joined the mancs. Benitez didnt want him. Again, thats football. No rights or wrongs there.

      As for Owen now, he neither angers me or inspires me. I feel no emotion now. I will always respect what he did for Liverpool. I respect the fact that he is coming back to play for his mate in his testimonial. He was a superb servant and ambassador to the club in his time here, always a professional.

      For me, it will be nice to see him in a real red shirt again. But at the end of the day it is Carra's day, one that he richly deserves. It is a day for celebration and its all going to a good cause. It isn't about Michael Owen and anyone who boos, shouts abuse etc will just be making an absolute a**hole of themselves.

      I will be going for Carra, to show my respect for a true Liverpool legend. He is a credit to the club and the city.

      Well done Carra.....!!

      Another great post :) This is what i like about true Liverpool fans. If i could give you 5+ i would  ;D
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      Reply #35: Sep 03, 2010 03:38:50 pm
      I would happily applaud one of Liverpool's finest. I can't really understand the comments seeing as he only joined Man Utd to stop the rot in his career. Imagine the situation. 'Well I've been offered the chance to join one of the biggest clubs in the world (admittedly) which can get me back competing at the top level or I can join a relegation battling club surrounded by sh*t players at Wolves. You know I think I might join Wolves!' Only an idiot would do that and Michael Owen's no idiot. And let's remember the countless times he said he desired a move back to Liverpool. He'll no doubt admit that he was stupid to leave Liverpool The guy was heartbroken in 2005 when he was told by Rafa Benitez that he couldn't rejoin Liverpool because Liverpool couldn't afford him. And given the chance to have signed for Liverpool last season he'd have taken it in a heartbeat and turned down Man Utd - no doubts about that. We should have gone in for him again last season, but no Rafa thought it'd be better to stick with one proper centre forward in Fernando Torres and believing that N'Gog was a better 2nd option than Michael. Ridiculous. He'll get the applause from me. Unlike others I put preference over his trophy winning exploits far higher than him signing for the Man Utd.

      Reasons why i joined this forum  :roll: :roll: :roll: We're are now listening to true Liverpool fans.  :)
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #36: Sep 03, 2010 03:39:42 pm
      Yeah, but he's a Manc so....BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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      Reply #37: Sep 03, 2010 03:41:02 pm
      Yeah, but he's a Manc so....BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

      ;)

      If i could give you 5 negs i would  ;D ;D ;D. Only joking mate  :f_whistle: :lmao:
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #38: Sep 03, 2010 03:48:22 pm
      Keith, the way I see it, Owen was a gem for us and his service for us should never be forgotten. However, he has done the unthinkable by signing for the enemy.

      It pisses me off more than if a Diouf, Keane or even Crouch playing for them, as Owen was a legend for us.

      He shouldn't be booed in the testimonial, and I think should be applauded at the end of the game for doing this for Carra as it would be a tough thing to do, front up in front of the Kop in our shirt once more.
      But I do think it should be no-holds barred towards him during our League encounters, and I would boo him too, as it bites hard.

      Each to their own and everyone will handle this situation in their own way.
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      Reply #39: Sep 03, 2010 03:51:25 pm
      If i could give you 5 negs i would  ;D ;D ;D. Only joking mate  :f_whistle: :lmao:

      I can still give you 15 negs. And i will >:D
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #40: Sep 03, 2010 03:54:41 pm
      I've never booed anybody wearing the Liverpool shirt and I don't intend to start this Saturday.

      Was Michael Owen an idol of mine growing up? Too F***ing right he was. Do I now hate the c**t with a burning passion? Yes I do and not because he moved to United but because of the things he's said and the reasons he moved to United. I think he took the road he has his entire life. He moved to United to try and get into the 2010 World Cup squad. Playing for United was his best shot at that. England came first in Owen's mind, like it always has. Club football always came second, that's why Owen was never taken by the fans in the way Robbie Fowler was. And Fowler will always be head and shoulders above Owen in my eyes.

      I wouldn't boo him on Saturday because to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of knowing he's now seen as one of the biggest traitors in our club's history. There's a few players who've played for both Liverpool and United, but turning your back on the club that gave you your break and saying the things Owen said is unforgivable.

      So let him run out on Saturday in his Liverpool strip, no doubt he'll score in front of the Kop (it's written in the stars) and we'll see the reaction his goal(s) get.

      But this game is for charity, a very worthy cause, not a do or die match for the Premiership title. This game has no bearing on our personal feelings towards any one man. It's the sort of game where those sort of differences are put to one side and the main focus is how people, less fortunate than ourselves, will benefit. And if Michael Owen is prepared to help that cause, then good on him and everybody else in doing so.
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      Reply #41: Sep 03, 2010 04:03:50 pm
      I can still give you 15 negs. And I will >:D

      But i can give you 225  ;D
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      Reply #42: Sep 03, 2010 06:45:51 pm
      I've never booed anybody wearing the Liverpool shirt and I don't intend to start this Saturday.

      Was Michael Owen an idol of mine growing up? Too f**king right he was. Do I now hate the c**t with a burning passion? Yes I do and not because he moved to United but because of the things he's said and the reasons he moved to United. I think he took the road he has his entire life. He moved to United to try and get into the 2010 World Cup squad. Playing for United was his best shot at that. England came first in Owen's mind, like it always has. Club football always came second, that's why Owen was never taken by the fans in the way Robbie Fowler was. And Fowler will always be head and shoulders above Owen in my eyes.

      I wouldn't boo him on Saturday because to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of knowing he's now seen as one of the biggest traitors in our club's history. There's a few players who've played for both Liverpool and United, but turning your back on the club that gave you your break and saying the things Owen said is unforgivable.

      So let him run out on Saturday in his Liverpool strip, no doubt he'll score in front of the Kop (it's written in the stars) and we'll see the reaction his goal(s) get.

      But this game is for charity, a very worthy cause, not a do or die match for the Premiership title. This game has no bearing on our personal feelings towards any one man. It's the sort of game where those sort of differences are put to one side and the main focus is how people, less fortunate than ourselves, will benefit. And if Michael Owen is prepared to help that cause, then good on him and everybody else in doing so.

      I don't know if he put England ahead of his club but if he did so then I'm sorry in this day and age you cannot degrade him for it. How many footballers put country before club today? Not many. I don't think you should criticise Owen for that I think you should praise him. And besides in putting country before club did his performances suffer worse when playing for club? No they did not. Michael Owen was a hero of mine and still is a hero of mine for everything he has done in his Liverpool career and for his dedication on the international level. It is in my opinion unmatched.
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #43: Sep 03, 2010 06:50:07 pm
      I used to admire Owen as much as anyone but towards the end of his time with us, he started to think he was a superstar, stopped chasing through balls and stood around up front for the perfect pass to land at his feet. I for one was pretty glad when he left and not the slightest bit surprised when he later joined The Scum. He's an arrogant little sh*t and, I'm sorry Jamie, deserves any abuse he gets.
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      Reply #44: Sep 03, 2010 07:26:23 pm
      He had a choice to go to stoke or hull and we didn't want him so to be fair he probably made the right choice .
      He is carra's mate and will wear the liverpool shirt with pride i am sure.
      Whatever people think of him, he gave his best years to us and then things went downhill for him and pretty much ended up on the scrap heap finishing what was a promising career at a second rate club ;D
      I for one will cheer him because he must have regrets and sadness about how he ended up working for a scottish drunk who slurs his words and hates the club he loved from a boy ;).
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      Re: Carra: Don't Abuse Michael Owen At My Testimonial.
      Reply #45: Sep 03, 2010 07:49:24 pm
      I don't know if he put England ahead of his club but if he did so then I'm sorry in this day and age you cannot degrade him for it. How many footballers put country before club today? Not many. I don't think you should criticise Owen for that I think you should praise him. And besides in putting country before club did his performances suffer worse when playing for club? No they did not. Michael Owen was a hero of mine and still is a hero of mine for everything he has done in his Liverpool career and for his dedication on the international level. It is in my opinion unmatched.

      Yes I can, have and will have a go at him for putting England before Liverpool.

      We paid his wages - England did not.
      We gave him his break through - England did not.
      He could only play for England by playing well for Liverpool - not the other way round.

      For any player, club must come first. For Michael Owen, that was not, is not and will not be the case. He always put England before Liverpool and many fans know this to be case whether they admit it or not.

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