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      Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)

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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1410: Sep 14, 2017 10:55:31 pm
      More than outside the box and probably one of the best goals I've seen. I detest Rodgers for selling him. Stupid idiot should have sold Henderson.

      Makes you wonder what he was thinking, all about the younger players stuff he was pushing and Sterling aside, he was our best one but chose to play a load of crap ahead of him. I'd say Suso has probably gone ahead of Sterling now too. Sterling doesn't seem to have improved in the slightest since leaving us where as Suso seems to be getting better and better.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1411: Sep 14, 2017 11:48:05 pm
      Looks like he is a pivotal player these days for Milan.

      Good on the lad. Shipped around everywhere on loans but look like he's finally found somewhere for his talents.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1412: Sep 15, 2017 03:53:13 pm
      Came on in the 62nd minute and in the 63rd he put one top corner from outside the box.


      This means nothing to me.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1413: Sep 15, 2017 07:30:49 pm
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1414: Sep 15, 2017 08:18:20 pm
      Are you Peter Griffin?
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1415: Sep 15, 2017 08:42:27 pm

      Oh vienna
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1416: Sep 15, 2017 08:50:23 pm
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1417: Nov 07, 2017 06:57:56 pm
      Suso :    Need to check out his goals and assists for AC  in Serie A .

      Whilst mentioning it ..... he ,   Aspas  and Alberto all have been called up for the Spanish  national squad.


      Now ........ who wanted Suso gone ?
      Who raved about him .....then months later put him out on loan.... before shipping him out in early '15?

      An academy lad who Carra raved about.   He knew quality if other(s) didn't.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1418: Nov 08, 2017 01:49:24 am
      Suso :    Need to check out his goals and assists for AC  in Serie A .

      Whilst mentioning it ..... he ,   Aspas  and Alberto all have been called up for the Spanish  national squad.


      Now ........ who wanted Suso gone ?
      Who raved about him .....then months later put him out on loan.... before shipping him out in early '15?

      An academy lad who Carra raved about.   He knew quality if other(s) didn't.

      His stats look pretty good this season.

      Definitely think of the last batch to come through the Academy,
      (Not really come through, but brought in and then slip through the fingers)
      of the talent that was there he was bigger than Sterling going in that we got very little for him.

      Not sure he'd play ahead of Salah but maybe he'd solve the problems we have when Coutinho and Lallana have been missing. We'll never know though. He's on a long contract now and he wouldn't be cheap.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1419: Nov 08, 2017 09:35:39 am
      Seem to recall he was pretty disillusioned/ disaffected when he left so not sure he’s a “Pogba” esque option......

      Not that I think we’d ever spend bigger money to re-sign someone.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1420: Nov 08, 2017 01:06:13 pm
      His is not a position where we are short so good for the lad for beginning to show what he can do for Milan.

      I think he would have struggled for game time here to develop, so in many ways it was a good move for all parties in the end that he's found that with Milan.

      Probably should have got more money for him but it's not like we would have seen it reinvested back in the team anyway so not that big of a deal.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1421: Nov 08, 2017 01:21:06 pm
      Eh. Always heard he had a bad attitude and poor training output..didn't want to work. Not sure where I but I remember reading it in several places. If that's true, he'd hate life under Jürgen. Not too bothered that he's playing good in Italy. Who wouldn't?
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1422: Nov 08, 2017 01:56:06 pm
      Eh. Always heard he had a bad attitude and poor training output..didn't want to work. Not sure where I but I remember reading it in several places. If that's true, he'd hate life under Jürgen. Not too bothered that he's playing good in Italy. Who wouldn't?

      Ian Rush mate.

      Was like a different country.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1423: Nov 08, 2017 02:27:58 pm
      Ian Rush mate.

      Was like a different country.


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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1424: Nov 08, 2017 06:22:39 pm
      His stats look pretty good this season.

       We'll never know though.

      He's on a long contract now and he wouldn't be cheap.


      A.C. have signed him up till 2022 .
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1425: Nov 08, 2017 06:26:57 pm
      Who cares?
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1426: Nov 08, 2017 06:43:30 pm
      Eh. Always heard he had a bad attitude and poor training output..didn't want to work. Not sure where I but I remember reading it in several places. If that's true, he'd hate life under Jürgen. Not too bothered that he's playing good in Italy. Who wouldn't?

      Yeah we should only scout people at Southampton
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1427: Nov 08, 2017 06:57:23 pm
      No idea how well he's playing for Milan as I have seen very little of them this season, but I sure do not put as much weight as some do on national call ups. Unless the player is a regular player for his nation, then an occasional call up really doesn't mean as much as newspapers try to make it sound - calling an once capped crap player a "Brazilian international" seems to be one of their favourite tactics to spice up some rumours. Lots of terribly average players have been called up and played a few times even for the best national teams such as Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy and so on.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1428: Nov 08, 2017 07:19:04 pm
      Yeah we should only scout people at Southampton

      Yea where did I say that?
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1429: Nov 08, 2017 07:20:31 pm

      Exactly.  It's not like he was anything special when he was here.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1430: Nov 08, 2017 07:27:42 pm
      Fair play to him for getting things back on track since leaving us - impressing in an ever improving Italian league.

      Wouldn't improve our starting XI though.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1431: Nov 08, 2017 07:32:59 pm

      I was being sarcastic. Being dismissive of someone because they play in italy, where did salah come from. Has been really good for milan
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1432: Nov 08, 2017 07:51:24 pm
      No idea how well he's playing for Milan as I have seen very little of them this season, but I sure do not put as much weight as some do on national call ups. Unless the player is a regular player for his nation, then an occasional call up really doesn't mean as much as newspapers try to make it sound - calling an once capped crap player a "Brazilian international" seems to be one of their favourite tactics to spice up some rumours. Lots of terribly average players have been called up and played a few times even for the best national teams such as Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy and so on.

      Trying to think of the worst or most notable 'once capped crap player' in England (to be fair - there's even more multiple capped crap players!) - there's been a few absolute roasters like Blueshite Franny Jeffers. One that comes to mind is Ryan Shawcross - sent on with 15 minutes to go against Sweden a few years back in which time Zlatan scores three goals and England lose 4-2. Hilarious!

      Another, more tragic, one cap wonder this time for Scotland was John Kennedy ex Celtic starlet who was tipped for big big things around 2003/2004. Kept Ronaldinho and co at bay when Celtic beat Barca in the UEFA Cup, got called up shortly after for Scotland and then suffered a horrendous knee injury that kept him out for years and pretty much finished his career. Terrible.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1433: Nov 08, 2017 08:46:48 pm
      Exactly.  It's not like he was anything special when he was here.

      I always thought he looked very good and was a real prospect.

      The biggest issues I thought he had related to attitude, while it was never confirmed it seemed highly likely as even after strong performances Brendan didn't give him any playing time.

      He also always looked like he would be competing with the likes of Coutinho for game time and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we can't get Lemar (sounds like Barca are after him) then if Coutinho goes then we go after Suso. Haven't watched him for AC but what I remember of him here I was always wanting to see him given a lot more time.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1434: Nov 08, 2017 09:00:07 pm
      Trying to think of the worst or most notable 'once capped crap player' in England (to be fair - there's even more multiple capped crap players!) - there's been a few absolute roasters like Blueshite Franny Jeffers. One that comes to mind is Ryan Shawcross - sent on with 15 minutes to go against Sweden a few years back in which time Zlatan scores three goals and England lose 4-2. Hilarious!

      Another, more tragic, one cap wonder this time for Scotland was John Kennedy ex Celtic starlet who was tipped for big big things around 2003/2004. Kept Ronaldinho and co at bay when Celtic beat Barca in the UEFA Cup, got called up shortly after for Scotland and then suffered a horrendous knee injury that kept him out for years and pretty much finished his career. Terrible.

      Yep Kennedy could’ve a real good one that was a real shame. Kinda fitting though that one of his best mates - Stephen McManus went on to have his career and captain Celtic for both of them.

      Not a one cap wonder but Ian Durrant in the 80s was a similar tragedy. He managed to come back and have something of a career but he was really going to be very, very special.

      People (some) will laugh but I think he was as talented as Gazza.

      That Chris Sutton has only one cap for Engerland is risible.
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      Reply #1435: Nov 08, 2017 09:28:01 pm
      Yep Kennedy could’ve a real good one that was a real shame. Kinda fitting though that one of his best mates - Stephen McManus went on to have his career and captain Celtic for both of them.

      Not a one cap wonder but Ian Durrant in the 80s was a similar tragedy. He managed to come back and have something of a career but he was really going to be very, very special.

      People (some) will laugh but I think he was as talented as Gazza.

      That Chris Sutton has only one cap for Engerland is risible.

      Yeah Chris Sutton was a fantastic striker far more deserving of one cap. Amazing that the likes of Darius Vassell and others constructed more meaningful international careers for England than him. Others may disagree but Alan Thompson deserved more than one cap as well. Can still remember an absolute cracker in the Old Firm years ago from him amongst many other excellent performances against some very good sides (including Liverpool sadly). That Celtic side were brim full of terrific players who not only contributed massively to their club but internationally as well. Larsson and Petrov especially.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1436: Nov 09, 2017 12:10:40 am
      No idea how well he's playing for Milan as I have seen very little of them this season, but I sure do not put as much weight as some do on national call ups. Unless the player is a regular player for his nation, then an occasional call up really doesn't mean as much as newspapers try to make it sound - calling an once capped crap player a "Brazilian international" seems to be one of their favourite tactics to spice up some rumours. Lots of terribly average players have been called up and played a few times even for the best national teams such as Brazil, Spain, Germany, Italy and so on.

      All I really have to do is look back at some of the England teams over the years.

      That said, I think it's reasonable if a players having a good season, to give him a shot and see how he does.

      On the other hand, Carlton Palmer won caps  :lmao:
      Still can't believe that one  :laugh:

      As for Suso, he's a gifted footballer.
      It's just a pity he's not as good as he thinks he is.
      Matches are won and lost on the training pitch, and in the players heads.
      By all accounts, Suso thought that was beneath him.
      Good luck to the lad, but he could have been so much more right now, if only he didn't let his ego get in the way.
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1437: Nov 09, 2017 08:28:56 pm
      Been watching a lot of Serie A and Milan games when I can. Suso is basically Coutinho on the right side, and every time he gets the ball, you expect something to happen (similar to Coutinho). Fantastic footballer that loves to dribble, has a good cross on him and decent work rate, but he is a bit one dimensional on the right, predictable just like our Coutinho, yet still causes the opposition defence problems . Would love to see him play more centrally and see him mix things up a bit.

      I think Spurs was after him in the summer, but Milan didn't want to sell unless they received a ridiculous offer.
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      Reply #1438: Nov 09, 2017 09:30:12 pm
      Yep Kennedy could’ve a real good one that was a real shame. Kinda fitting though that one of his best mates - Stephen McManus went on to have his career and captain Celtic for both of them.

      Not a one cap wonder but Ian Durrant in the 80s was a similar tragedy. He managed to come back and have something of a career but he was really going to be very, very special.

      People (some) will laugh but I think he was as talented as Gazza.

      That Chris Sutton has only one cap for Engerland is risible.

      Chris sutton blotted his copybook by turning down the chance for an England b team. As for ian durrant very sad that Aberdeen fans still celebrate to this day the tackle by neil simpson
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      Re: Fernandez Suso (Liverpool > AC Milan)
      Reply #1439: Nov 09, 2017 09:41:20 pm
      Chris sutton blotted his copybook by turning down the chance for an England b team. As for ian durrant very sad that Aberdeen fans still celebrate to this day the tackle by neil simpson

      Yeh spot on mate. Sutton said recently he regretted that.

      The whole old firm and Aberdeen thing is bizarre. They hate each other and Aberdeen hate them both the same ever since Slur Alco.

      He was some player. Souness describes him as probably the most naturally gifted player he played alongside.

      Go figure.

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