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      Re: Bundesliga
      Reply #800: Jun 17, 2020 09:44:41 am
      4 teams have won the EPL since 2005. One of them was Leicester. The others have spent and spent and spent again to win it. These days, only two teams from 20 can win the league. Clearly not boring enough for you, and as we are one of the two, I don't think we want it to be a level playing field.

      Dortmund clicked their fingers and got Hummels from Bayern. And Gotze. Basic research would tell you that. Lazy inaccurate assumptions won't.

      It is true that Bayern recruit top staff, but that is what every club should aim to do.

      Yes I clearly remember that Bayern pleaded with Gotze to stay with them!!!!  I imagine Hummels either wanted to leave or Bayern weren't fussed about losing him, they certainly seem to have a pretty good defence without him.

      Look you think Bayern and Dortmund have the same power in German football, you are wrong but you are entitled to your opinion, its pointless having a rational discussion with someone as stubborn as you.
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      Reply #801: Jun 17, 2020 10:50:31 am
      4 teams have won the EPL since 2005. One of them was Leicester. The others have spent and spent and spent again to win it. These days, only two teams from 20 can win the league. Clearly not boring enough for you, and as we are one of the two, I don't think we want it to be a level playing field.

      Dortmund clicked their fingers and got Hummels from Bayern. And Gotze. Basic research would tell you that. Lazy inaccurate assumptions won't.

      It is true that Bayern recruit top staff, but that is what every club should aim to do.

      Why do you keep trying to compare it with the Premier League? The Premier League has far greater spending power than the Bundesliga. Villa and Fulham for example, upon promotion both spent over £100mill. The teams at the top all have similar pulling power for the top players and similar spending power. You think a quality player would sign for a German team in the Europa League? Not a chance, yet quality players will sign for English teams in the Europa League.

      All the quality players that Dortmund end up having are only there as a stepping stone onto Bayern unless another big team gets to them first.

      Nobody is saying it’s not a good thing Bayern have going with winning 8 in a row and they haven’t done well, they are saying the league is financially dominated by one team, which it is and for some reason you are trying to make every excuse under the sun to say it’s not the case and keep trying to drag us and the Premier League into it when it’s like chalk and cheese in similarities.
      Never seen you take a stand like this for our club, you sure are passionate about VAR and making excuses for Bayern’s dominance.
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      Reply #802: Jun 17, 2020 03:34:58 pm
      Dortmund clicked their fingers and got Hummels from Bayern. And Gotze. Basic research would tell you that. Lazy inaccurate assumptions won't.

      A bit like your lazy assumption. Basic research would tell you Bayern bought them from Dortmund in their prime then allowed them to go back to Dortmund due to age and Bayern bringing younger players through.

      Bayern are a bigger club than Dortmund, plain fact!
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      Reply #803: Jun 17, 2020 03:58:59 pm
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      Never seen you take a stand like this for our club, you sure are passionate about VAR and making excuses for Bayern’s dominance.


      I have thousands of posts here to do with our club, they're all freely available for anyone to read them.

      VAR is essential at this level, and we see why every week. If a league/competition doesn't have it by now, it's second rate imo.

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      Yes I clearly remember that Bayern pleaded with Gotze to stay with them!!!!  I imagine Hummels either wanted to leave or Bayern weren't fussed about losing him, they certainly seem to have a pretty good defence without him.

      Look you think Bayern and Dortmund have the same power in German football, you are wrong but you are entitled to your opinion, its pointless having a rational discussion with someone as stubborn as you.

      You're assuming in your previous post. Now you're imagining things. No facts though.

      I don't know whether Hummels wanted to leave or not, it's irrelevant tbh. Fact is, he went. He wasn't the only one either. So your argument that players can't go to Dortmund from Bayern is not valid.

      Your earlier argument that something must be done to stop Bayern dominating the league, is not even worth considering. Everyone starts Day 1 on 0 points. Dortmund had a 9 point lead over Bayern last season. They had their chance and they blew it. So if they're not good enough to topple Bayern after 34 games, then they need to ask themselves why. Because the set excuse offered isn't going to help them very much.

      If you think the Bundesliga is still boring, fair enough. But remember, there was only one team in the top 5 leagues that had a 25 point lead with 9 games remaining. Most neutrals think it's a boring, weak league this year. I don't.
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      Reply #804: Jun 17, 2020 05:36:37 pm

      I have thousands of posts here to do with our club, they're all freely available for anyone to read them.

      VAR is essential at this level, and we see why every week. If a league/competition doesn't have it by now, it's second rate imo.

      You're assuming in your previous post. Now you're imagining things. No facts though.

      I don't know whether Hummels wanted to leave or not, it's irrelevant tbh. Fact is, he went. He wasn't the only one either. So your argument that players can't go to Dortmund from Bayern is not valid.

      Your earlier argument that something must be done to stop Bayern dominating the league, is not even worth considering. Everyone starts Day 1 on 0 points. Dortmund had a 9 point lead over Bayern last season. They had their chance and they blew it. So if they're not good enough to topple Bayern after 34 games, then they need to ask themselves why. Because the set excuse offered isn't going to help them very much.

      If you think the Bundesliga is still boring, fair enough. But remember, there was only one team in the top 5 leagues that had a 25 point lead with 9 games remaining. Most neutrals think it's a boring, weak league this year. I don't.

      Both Hummels and Gotze were allowed to leave by Bayern as other posters have pointed out, admit defeat before you look a clown
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      Reply #805: Jun 17, 2020 10:59:06 pm
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      Both Hummels and Gotze were allowed to leave by Bayern as other posters have pointed out, admit defeat

      Sorry, but after the below quote, that won't happen.

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      ...can Dortmund do the same to get a Bayern player, No they can't!...

      At no point does the statement mention anything about player form, ability, or how they leave.

      I'll leave it to you and other posters to imagine how they ended up there, but evidently yes they can move from Bayern to Dortmund, so that should be the issue cleared up.
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      Reply #806: Jun 18, 2020 10:10:55 am
      Sorry, but after the below quote, that won't happen.
       
      At no point does the statement mention anything about player form, ability, or how they leave.

      I'll leave it to you and other posters to imagine how they ended up there, but evidently yes they can move from Bayern to Dortmund, so that should be the issue cleared up.

      No its not the issue cleared up, Bayern let the players go to Dortmund when they were passed their best, when they had no more use for them. For a player in their prime there is no way in hell that Dortmund would be able to poach them from Bayern or outbid Bayern to a players signature. Of course Dortmund might be able to sign some youngsters who develop into great players but as soon as they become great, off they go to Bayern.
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      Reply #807: Jul 01, 2020 11:13:09 am
      Bayern showing their financial strength already; 55mill for a player with 1 year left on his contract and also giving him 385k a week.
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      Reply #808: Jul 14, 2020 01:02:22 am
      If ya gonna sing dodgy nazi songs on ya holidays,don't let people film it.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53394102.
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      Reply #809: Jul 14, 2020 03:48:49 pm
      If ya gonna sing dodgy nazi songs on ya holidays,don't let people film it.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53394102.

      Hmm, you made it sound like Neuer was singing German Nazi songs, how on earth was he to know what the lyrics of this Croatian song are or refer to, in fact do you know what the lyrics to the song are without looking it up?
      It's stuff like this that drives me crazy in this ultra woke media world we live in now, this is completely innocent, just Neuer after a few bevies having a sing song with some local friends, nothing to see, move on.
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      Reply #810: Jul 15, 2020 12:10:26 am
      Um no i didn't.I said,"if ya gonna sing dodgy nazi songs on ya holidays,don't let people film it".In this day an age keep ya white power sh*t to yourself.
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      Reply #811: Jul 15, 2020 12:38:15 pm
      Um no i didn't.I said,"if ya gonna sing dodgy nazi songs on ya holidays,don't let people film it".In this day an age keep ya white power sh*t to yourself.

      So you are suggesting he knew what he was singing then? My point is that he didn't, how could he when he does not speak Croatian. I can't find any fault in what he did.
      BTW bit of a news flash for you, all the people in the Balkans are white, so it has zero to do with white privilege, white power or anything else, its just a bunch of people who hate another bunch of people and have throughout recorded history.

      As I said before, nothing to see here, move along.
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      Reply #812: Jul 16, 2020 12:35:17 am
      You're always the first to defend this sh*t,no? and yep i think he knew what he was singing,https://www.dw.com/en/manuel-neuer-in-croatia-did-the-bayern-munich-star-know-what-he-was-singing/a-54183159.And the rest of your sh*t about thee balkans i;m gonna ignore.F**k nationalism,f**k white power.
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      Reply #813: Jul 16, 2020 08:44:50 am
      You're always the first to defend this sh*t,no? and yep i think he knew what he was singing,https://www.dw.com/en/manuel-neuer-in-croatia-did-the-bayern-munich-star-know-what-he-was-singing/a-54183159.And the rest of your sh*t about thee balkans i;m gonna ignore.F**k nationalism,f**k white power.

      Yes I will always be the first to defend freedom of speech for everyone, correct. BTW what do you mean by white power? In the context of the Balkans white power makes no sense as they are all white. Do yourself a favour read some history, broaden your mind beyond your twitter feed my friend. The history of the Balkans is gruesome yet fascinating.
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      Reply #814: Jul 17, 2020 10:47:51 pm
      Hmm, you made it sound like Neuer was singing German Nazi songs, how on earth was he to know what the lyrics of this Croatian song are or refer to, in fact do you know what the lyrics to the song are without looking it up?
      It's stuff like this that drives me crazy in this ultra woke media world we live in now, this is completely innocent, just Neuer after a few bevies having a sing song with some local friends, nothing to see, move on.

      I know the lyrics and am familiar with the song. They’re not offensive nor are they making reference to any  right wing or Nazi ideology. Song is super simple in its message in that it promotes the beauty of each independent state of Croatia and the beauty of the country as a whole.

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