NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Our owners are so far from a normal owner it is ridiculous. The vast majority of owners like football, the vast majority dont expect to make money, the vast majority make an effort in the January window.

The vast majority dont give their manager over £100M to spend in one transfer window either.

I will be posting more facts later this week, for the hard of thinking.

We are all waiting, been a week now; we've seen nothing just the sandwich board ravings of an unstable person.

Let us know when you have your facts straight.

Or for those who'd rather NOT read the doublespeak.
JW Henry made an almighty fuckup of his futures business. And all the customers fu**ed off.
This "brilliant businessman" was actually giving useless returns with it.

What has HAS been successful at in recent times  is the parasitic business model of "sports brands".
ie
1)give a load of bullshit promises.
2)hold sports fans over a barrel.
3)repeatedly tell them "give me the money or I'll kill the brand".

Henry hasn't loaned the fans anything at 0%. He's loaned HIMSELF it.

But hey, don't let any of that stop you giving us the tiresome propaganda..

tiresome propaganda? Note the irony of your statement?

We are all waiting, been a week now; we've seen nothing just the sandwich board ravings of an unstable person.

Let us know when you have your facts straight.

But enough of yourself, eh wackjob.

Facts are clear, my little colonial looney-tune.
Some of us have lives to live.
Others however are just shills who post sh*t for $$$$s

I'm off out now, and I'll post something when I fancy, not when your little hissy fit demands. (Is this evidence of  you having been promoted to head shill now btw?)

While I'm out, maybe you can post the great successes your rounders friends have made since 2010 at Anfield?
Because we currently look just as sh*t now as we were back then. Altho I have asked you this question MANY times.
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY!!!

But enough of yourself, eh wackjob.

Facts are clear, my colonial looney-tune.
Some of us have lives to live.
Others however are just shills who post sh*t for $$$$s

I'd be happy to consider any facts you have to support your assertions, I am no fan of the smug corporate tools from Boston. But AZ is right in that you over promise and under deliver and ultimately you sound like a Hicks and Gillette shill trying to disguise yourself as a "local" supporter. Enough senseless tripe and name calling, post some facts and try to have a seasoned debate.

I'm off out now, and I'll post something when I fancy, not when your little hissy fit demands

I would suggest in future then you don't post stuff like this.

I will be posting more facts later this week, for the hard of thinking.

But enough of yourself, eh wackjob.

Facts are clear, my little colonial looney-tune.
Some of us have lives to live.
Others however are just shills who post sh*t for $$$$s

I'm off out now, and I'll post something when I fancy, not when your little hissy fit demands. (Is this evidence of  you having been promoted to head shill now btw?)

While I'm out, maybe you can post the great successes your rounders friends have made since 2010 at Anfield?
Because we currently look just as sh*t now as we were back then. Altho I have asked you this question MANY times.
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY!!!

please go and live the life you claim you have and go and experience the real world, you really need to get out more mate before your head explodes

The vast majority dont give their manager over £100M to spend in one transfer window either.

I don't see how, after making record amounts only money, and selling Suarez for 75 mill, that they could've got away with spending much less to be honest.

I'm off out now, and I'll post something when I fancy, not when your little hissy fit demands. (Is this evidence of  you having been promoted to head shill now btw?)

While I'm out, maybe you can post the great successes your rounders friends have made since 2010 at Anfield?
Because we currently look just as sh*t now as we were back then. Altho I have asked you this question MANY times.
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY!!!

So still no facts then?

Carry on.

Btw I never recall you asking me a direct question, feel free though I will be happy to answer.

Liverpool may ditch transfer committee as they look to change recruitment policy this summer

It will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave, writes Jason Burt
      

By Jason Burt10:00PM BST 25 Apr 2015

Brendan Rodgers is expected to survive as Liverpool manager into next season but could there be some changes in how the club goes about recruiting players this summer?


One suggestion is that the Fenway Sports Group, which owns Liverpool, might want to appoint a director of football/ general manager to assist Rodgers.



This would raise questions over whether the much-debated transfer committee – which is headed by the manager – will be broken up, or at least revamped, following some disappointing signings in recent windows.


The committee includes Rodgers, Mike Gordon, a Liverpool director who also sits on FSG’s board, chief executive Ian Ayre, head of performance and analysis Michael Edwards along with chief scout Barry Hunter and Dave Fallows, the head of recruitment.

Mario Balotelli has been one of several disappointing signings
The spotlight is likely to fall on Hunter and Fallows in particular, and how effective they have been, when FSG carry out their usual end-of-season review of how Liverpool have performed.

Whether they re-shape the committee or even take the step of appointing a director of football – something Rodgers has opposed in the past – remains to seen but certainly there will be a reckoning over the signings that have been made and just how many have proved a success.

Even if a change is made to the way Liverpool conduct their transfers there will not be a wavering in the principle of signing players of potential which FSG have insisted upon.

Either way it will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11563643/Liverpool-may-ditch-transfer-committee-as-they-look-to-change-recruitment-policy-this-summer.html

Very true, I did know that!

But AussieRed wants to win the LEAGUE.

Damn straight I do, more then any other trophy out there but I'm always open to gathering as much Silverware that's on offer!

Damn straight I do, more then any other trophy out there but I'm always open to gathering as much Silverware that's on offer!

That by knocking the fillings out of Rodgers teeth?.

 

Liverpool may ditch transfer committee as they look to change recruitment policy this summer

It will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave, writes Jason Burt
      

By Jason Burt10:00PM BST 25 Apr 2015

Brendan Rodgers is expected to survive as Liverpool manager into next season but could there be some changes in how the club goes about recruiting players this summer?


One suggestion is that the Fenway Sports Group, which owns Liverpool, might want to appoint a director of football/ general manager to assist Rodgers.



This would raise questions over whether the much-debated transfer committee – which is headed by the manager – will be broken up, or at least revamped, following some disappointing signings in recent windows.


The committee includes Rodgers, Mike Gordon, a Liverpool director who also sits on FSG’s board, chief executive Ian Ayre, head of performance and analysis Michael Edwards along with chief scout Barry Hunter and Dave Fallows, the head of recruitment.

Mario Balotelli has been one of several disappointing signings
The spotlight is likely to fall on Hunter and Fallows in particular, and how effective they have been, when FSG carry out their usual end-of-season review of how Liverpool have performed.

Whether they re-shape the committee or even take the step of appointing a director of football – something Rodgers has opposed in the past – remains to seen but certainly there will be a reckoning over the signings that have been made and just how many have proved a success.

Even if a change is made to the way Liverpool conduct their transfers there will not be a wavering in the principle of signing players of potential which FSG have insisted upon.

Either way it will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11563643/Liverpool-may-ditch-transfer-committee-as-they-look-to-change-recruitment-policy-this-summer.html

More experimentation but no change except for a few heads to roll .

Liverpool may ditch transfer committee as they look to change recruitment policy this summer

It will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave, writes Jason Burt
      

By Jason Burt10:00PM BST 25 Apr 2015

Brendan Rodgers is expected to survive as Liverpool manager into next season but could there be some changes in how the club goes about recruiting players this summer?


One suggestion is that the Fenway Sports Group, which owns Liverpool, might want to appoint a director of football/ general manager to assist Rodgers.



This would raise questions over whether the much-debated transfer committee – which is headed by the manager – will be broken up, or at least revamped, following some disappointing signings in recent windows.


The committee includes Rodgers, Mike Gordon, a Liverpool director who also sits on FSG’s board, chief executive Ian Ayre, head of performance and analysis Michael Edwards along with chief scout Barry Hunter and Dave Fallows, the head of recruitment.

Mario Balotelli has been one of several disappointing signings
The spotlight is likely to fall on Hunter and Fallows in particular, and how effective they have been, when FSG carry out their usual end-of-season review of how Liverpool have performed.

Whether they re-shape the committee or even take the step of appointing a director of football – something Rodgers has opposed in the past – remains to seen but certainly there will be a reckoning over the signings that have been made and just how many have proved a success.

Even if a change is made to the way Liverpool conduct their transfers there will not be a wavering in the principle of signing players of potential which FSG have insisted upon.

Either way it will be a busy summer of transfer activity at Liverpool with at least 10 players and probably more expected to leave.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11563643/Liverpool-may-ditch-transfer-committee-as-they-look-to-change-recruitment-policy-this-summer.html

Well we can live in hope that this lifts some of the restrictions on wages that we offer to top tier players, excuse me if I'm going to take this with a large pinch of salt after the latest deluge of PR we've had from the club.

I think the transfer committee needs to be scrapped. Either bring in a DOF or let Rodgers have full control and back him.

At least then, transfers can be properly evaluated and responsibility determined good or bad.

The young and potential thing needs reevaluated as well. Foolish to limit yourself in that way.

Ditching the committee would be great, having a DoF would be greater, Giving Rodgers full control I'm not so sure.

They'll just ditch the name, it'll be the same and still be much like it is at most clubs, without people going ape sh*t over a name.

Ditching the committee would be great, having a DoF would be greater, Giving Rodgers full control I'm not so sure.

But if Rodgers had full control at least it would be easy to determine good or bad how he had done and there would be no hiding nor would there be all this bickering among the supporters about whether he was to "blame" or not.

The vast majority dont give their manager over £100M to spend in one transfer window either.

That is true.

Now, let me ask you this, To what end did we spend that money ?

 Did we spend it to push on from second to win the league or did we spend it on a rebuilding programme.

 Was it spent with the expectation of winning trophies or was it spent in the hope that we finish in the top four ?

 If any other owner had spent that money it would be with the expectation that the club was going to push on, was going to improve immediately, that the players would be around a long time.

 Now, how long will the players we bought be around ? From experience we can say, one season after spending over £100 million on players, some of these players will stay, some will go on loan, with the expectation that they will be sold and some will be sold outright.

 Is that spending money in an effort to improve the team or is it spending money in the most   
economical way for the clubs bank balance.
 
 The answers are obvious

Get Carra back at the club as a Part time coach & get him on the transfer committe.

He will knock a few heads together and its well known he is footi daft and probably knows all the players all over the world. .

I just want to clarify around this 'investment' phrase. 

FSG haven't given the club £110M to build a new Main Stand.  They've loaned the club the money over 5 and a half years - and based on TV income it's pretty assured they will be getting it back.  The football club are going to be doing the 'investment' to the tune of around £20M a year.  £20M a year that won't be going towards on the field success for the next 5 and a half years.

Suggesting FSG are investing in things like the stadium is like saying HSBC are buying me a house.

And if it was an investment, do you think they don't want a return on it too? If I invested 120m (not loaned) in a company, I expect a return on it every year. How much? depends on the financial risk the company has (the more leveraged it is the more financial risk it carries and the more return I ask).

Henry hasn't loaned the fans anything at 0%. He's loaned HIMSELF it.

What does that even mean?

What does that even mean?

Henry owns L.F.C, therefore loaning the club he owns means he's virtually given himself (the owner of the club) the loan.

That's what I think he means.