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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Reply #25110: Nov 10, 2018 09:02:15 am
      Think it would have been his grandfather who sold the German Luftwafa the fuel additive necessary to bomb the sh*t of the UK.
      Nice family anyone who likes Alien agendas like David Icke for instance should look at this family we don't need Aliens we already have them here.As for American Bankers jeez that's another wonderful story.


      Well off topic but become a big fan of Icke recently but still trying to get my head around the reptiles and alien stuff.

      Not sure we are for sale at all really. Pretty sure there's more money in the asset just yet.
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      Reply #25111: Dec 15, 2018 03:48:45 pm
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      Reply #25112: Dec 28, 2018 09:14:06 am
      Is it time to give the owners a bit of credit now ?

      They have put a lot in place that has helped the club get to where we are now , they got pelters when things weren’t going well so maybe time now to give them an appreciative nod

      They employed Klopp and backed him

      They have Edwards the power to support Klopp

      Both two key appointments that put us where we are

      Shanks used to say the owners are just there to sign the cheques and that’s what they are doing - if it’s not money for players it’s sorting the ground out and with rumours of the games biggest shirt deal about to happen then it’s time to say they guys know what they are doing commercially and they are learning to trust the right people on the football front
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      Reply #25113: Dec 28, 2018 10:45:11 am
      Not for me because they spent so much time trying to do things on the Cheap and got lucky with some big player sales to Barca and they still insist on the club being self funding so no they are not good owners for me they are absent owners and they should remain so.
      The way they treated Kenny should alone be enough for Liverpool supporters to never forgive them.
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      Reply #25114: Dec 28, 2018 10:54:47 am
      Is it time to give the owners a bit of credit now ?

      They have put a lot in place that has helped the club get to where we are now , they got pelters when things weren’t going well so maybe time now to give them an appreciative nod

      They employed Klopp and backed him

      They have Edwards the power to support Klopp

      Both two key appointments that put us where we are

      Shanks used to say the owners are just there to sign the cheques and that’s what they are doing - if it’s not money for players it’s sorting the ground out and with rumours of the games biggest shirt deal about to happen then it’s time to say they guys know what they are doing commercially and they are learning to trust the right people on the football front


      Credit for the last 3 years - yes.

      Balanced - however - by the fact it took them 5 years to get there.
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      Reply #25115: Dec 28, 2018 11:16:59 am
      Is it time to give the owners a bit of credit now ?

      They have put a lot in place that has helped the club get to where we are now , they got pelters when things weren’t going well so maybe time now to give them an appreciative nod

      They employed Klopp and backed him

      They have Edwards the power to support Klopp

      Both two key appointments that put us where we are

      Shanks used to say the owners are just there to sign the cheques and that’s what they are doing - if it’s not money for players it’s sorting the ground out and with rumours of the games biggest shirt deal about to happen then it’s time to say they guys know what they are doing commercially and they are learning to trust the right people on the football front


      Some will finally give the owners the credit they’ve been due for years now.

      I’ve personally always said they’re absolutely rock solid owners and we could do a lot worse. They’ve learned lessons along the way and are driving us in the right direction with savvy investments and employing the right people.

      Now for some giving the credit will be impossible as they will have to admit they’re wrong, a pill some will be unable to swallow which is a sad reflection on them
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      Reply #25116: Dec 28, 2018 12:04:06 pm
      Top of the league at last with a 6 point cushion!!
      While we have gone through several managers and unflattering league positions the owners have maintained the same business ethic throughout and the heady heights we now occupy would seem to be down to some alternative element.

      I refer of course to the manager who single handedly has turned our fortunes around.
      Any other candidate would in all likelihood see us floundering under FSG's business ethic.
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      Reply #25117: Dec 28, 2018 12:15:22 pm
      Top of the league at last with a 6 point cushion!!
      While we have gone through several managers and unflattering league positions the owners have maintained the same business ethic throughout and the heady heights we now occupy would seem to be down to some alternative element.

      I refer of course to the manager who single handedly has turned our fortunes around.
      Any other candidate would in all likelihood see us floundering under FSG's business ethic.

      Just imagine, if not for the mistakes made and lessons learned, we would not be in this exact moment, exactly where we are all so happy to be. Surely, this means they’ve done something worthwhile and worthy of at least faint praise.
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      Reply #25118: Dec 28, 2018 01:46:36 pm

      The way they treated Kenny should alone be enough for Liverpool supporters to never forgive them.

      "Whilst I am obviously disappointed to be leaving, the matter has been handled by the owners and all concerned in an honourable, respectful and dignified way and reflects on the quality of the people involved and their continued desire to move the football club forward."
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      Reply #25119: Dec 28, 2018 02:34:27 pm
      "Whilst I am obviously disappointed to be leaving, the matter has been handled by the owners and all concerned in an honourable, respectful and dignified way and reflects on the quality of the people involved and their continued desire to move the football club forward."

      that reflects on Kenny not the owners the man is Liverpool through and through see if you can work out why he would say that and why he was snubbed at the FA Cup final. You may need to lye down for a while but give it your best shot
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      Reply #25120: Dec 28, 2018 03:05:45 pm
      Just imagine, if not for the mistakes made and lessons learned, we would not be in this exact moment, exactly where we are all so happy to be. Surely, this means they’ve done something worthwhile and worthy of at least faint praise.

      If Jürgen walked the club would be as it was before his arrival, going nowhere.
      "Mistakes made, lessons learned"  would be of no consequence  without our saviour who provides success in spite of the aforementioned business ethic
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      Reply #25121: Dec 28, 2018 03:17:20 pm
      This was the first time under their tenure where I looked at the squad and said something like no excuses this time if we don't deliver trophies.

      We have strength in depth in almost every area now from goalkeeper through the spine of the team and in forward positions.

      It doesn't take a genius and now the money has been spent (alongside a man in Klopp whom very rarely buys a bad player) we are seeing the rewards.

      Last season we got to the end of the season crawling through games, dropping so many points and unable to give our best in the CL final. I'm not expecting that this time around!
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      Reply #25122: Dec 28, 2018 03:19:22 pm
      Is it time to give the owners a bit of credit now ?

      They have put a lot in place that has helped the club get to where we are now , they got pelters when things weren’t going well so maybe time now to give them an appreciative nod

      They employed Klopp and backed him

      They have Edwards the power to support Klopp

      Both two key appointments that put us where we are

      Shanks used to say the owners are just there to sign the cheques and that’s what they are doing - if it’s not money for players it’s sorting the ground out and with rumours of the games biggest shirt deal about to happen then it’s time to say they guys know what they are doing commercially and they are learning to trust the right people on the football front

      Give them a bit of credit??? Well that's just CRAZY talk!  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #25123: Dec 28, 2018 03:52:25 pm
      Nah lets wait till we win the f**king league.
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      Reply #25124: Dec 28, 2018 03:55:11 pm
      8 years on one league Cup for LFC doesn't reflect well on the owners. Jürgen is the only real correct decision they have made and I suspect without him we would not be in the position we are today. This is the era of correct financial support is the key to success now its not ideal it is not honest but its reality and we have suddenly realised this.
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      Reply #25125: Dec 28, 2018 05:49:24 pm
      Top of the league at last with a 6 point cushion!!
      While we have gone through several managers and unflattering league positions the owners have maintained the same business ethic throughout and the heady heights we now occupy would seem to be down to some alternative element.

      I refer of course to the manager who single handedly has turned our fortunes around.
      Any other candidate would in all likelihood see us floundering under FSG's business ethic.

      Is that the manager the owners employed and also wanted him from the start ? Whilst Klopp has done wonders he had also been helped by the backing the owners have given him
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      Reply #25126: Dec 28, 2018 06:09:05 pm
      8 years on one league Cup for LFC doesn't reflect well on the owners. Jürgen is the only real correct decision they have made and I suspect without him we would not be in the position we are today. This is the era of correct financial support is the key to success now its not ideal it is not honest but its reality and we have suddenly realised this.

      The improvement began pretty much as soon as Mike Gordon increased his holding and took (pretty much) sole responsibility for the club, leaving Henry free to concentrate on the Red Sox.

      He has been behind every major decision that has led us to this point, and on the transfer side, the much maligned Michael Edwards is showing just how astute he really is now that he has someone working with him rather than pulling in a different direction

      Let's not forget, Klopp had to be persuaded to buy Salah, and who did that persuading?

      Our management team, for the first time in a while, are all pulling in the same direction, and FSG have shown this by laying out world record sums on individual players; a sure sign they believe totally, not just in Klopp, but the whole team he works with.
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      Reply #25127: Dec 28, 2018 06:22:00 pm
      8 years on one league Cup for LFC doesn't reflect well on the owners. Jürgen is the only real correct decision they have made and I suspect without him we would not be in the position we are today. This is the era of correct financial support is the key to success now its not ideal it is not honest but its reality and we have suddenly realised this.

      How many finals have we reached in those 8 years? Cannot blame owners for losing in PKs to City in 2016 League Cup, or blowing a 1-0 lead at halftime against Sevilla, or Ramos taking Salah down. If the team is being put in a position where it can compete for trophies, then the owners are doing a good job. You cannot control what happens in single-game finals. Klopp has lost something like 6 straight finals, so if when he decides to pack it up he leaves with zero trophies, does that make him a poor coach?
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      Reply #25128: Dec 28, 2018 06:22:04 pm
      Is it time to give the owners a bit of credit now ?

      They have put a lot in place that has helped the club get to where we are now , they got pelters when things weren’t going well so maybe time now to give them an appreciative nod

      They employed Klopp and backed him

      They have Edwards the power to support Klopp

      Both two key appointments that put us where we are

      Shanks used to say the owners are just there to sign the cheques and that’s what they are doing - if it’s not money for players it’s sorting the ground out and with rumours of the games biggest shirt deal about to happen then it’s time to say they guys know what they are doing commercially and they are learning to trust the right people on the football front


      I've always given them credit when it's due over the years but I don't feel the need to credit them at the moment simply because this is where I expect this club to be and they've taken a while to totally get that in my opinion.

      I'd sooner get on with crediting the boss and this great squad of player's we have though.
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      Reply #25129: Dec 28, 2018 06:23:50 pm
      Give them a bit of credit??? Well that's just CRAZY talk!  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:

      I've mostly stayed as a lurker on this thread and it is pretty funny to see how some people refuse to give them any credit. All the bad things that have happened are the owners' fault, and all the good things that have happened, and are happening, are in spite of them  :lmao:
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      Reply #25130: Dec 28, 2018 06:31:03 pm
      Is that the manager the owners employed and also wanted him from the start ? Whilst Klopp has done wonders he had also been helped by the backing the owners have given him

      Who said FSG wanted Klopp initially?
      Would it be an assertion from their PR department?
      American owners who know f**k all about football and sacked managers they appointed in the years they have been here?
      Could you put a time scale on the FSG hunt for Klopp and maybe a reference as to when the first enquiry was made?

      Just a few enquiries that our owners PR dept. or indeed our owners themselves have no answer for; much the same as you when proof of your bullshit claims is requested you produce more bullshit.

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      Reply #25131: Dec 28, 2018 06:44:47 pm
      Who said FSG wanted Klopp initially?
      Would it be an assertion from their PR department?
      American owners who know f**k all about football and sacked managers they appointed in the years they have been here?
      Could you put a time scale on the FSG hunt for Klopp and maybe a reference as to when the first enquiry was made?

      Just a few enquiries that our owners PR dept. or indeed our owners themselves have no answer for; much the same as you when proof of your bullshit claims is requested you produce more bullshit.

      Blimey - you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Are you one of those - blame the owners for the bad things and then the manager for the good things.

      I guess you are one of those where it’s a very bitter pill to swallow to ever give the owners credit.
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      Reply #25132: Dec 28, 2018 07:35:01 pm
      A lot of people giving FSG credit for the things they are doing now, But they should have been doing from day one, and if they had maybe we win the title in 2013/14 and maybe Klopp has better players to work with and we win a Europa League Cup too
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      Reply #25133: Dec 28, 2018 07:45:25 pm
      They bought a world renowned Iconic football club cheap. Its taken them long enough to work out that this league is heavily reliant on spending.
      If they didn't have the Suarez and Couthino money to name but two would they have bought in Virgil and Alisson?.
      They have made it clear they will not put there money into the club so why should we give them credit for anything. They also took the hump when the fans protested about the ticket prices threatening to stop expansion plans so no credit from me. As long as they keep out of the way that fine
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      Reply #25134: Dec 28, 2018 08:02:53 pm
      They bought a world renowned Iconic football club cheap. Its taken them long enough to work out that this league is heavily reliant on spending.
      If they didn't have the Suarez and Couthino money to name but two would they have bought in Virgil and Alisson?.
      They have made it clear they will not put there money into the club so why should we give them credit for anything. They also took the hump when the fans protested about the ticket prices threatening to stop expansion plans so no credit from me. As long as they keep out of the way that fine

      They bought a club in dire financial stress under extreme debt - they used their own money to buy the club and pay off that debt

      What’s wrong with being self sufficient? That’s a very smart clever model and gives the club a very stable financial footing that doesn’t rely on the whims of a single person

      Their money has been put into the club - they own the club lock stock and barrel and any money is theirs and they keep it within the club , they are constantly looking at ways to increase the spending power for the manager.

      Did they not then listen to the fans about ticket prices ?

      People want the top players on the top wages - well something needs to pay that and we don’t have a oil billionaire to dip into their own personal pocket - and do we really want one ? Do we not want to win on our own steam not at the whim of a oil baron.
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      Reply #25135: Dec 29, 2018 03:31:25 am
      Let's not forget, Klopp had to be persuaded to buy Salah, and who did that persuading?

      I didn't know that.

      For real?
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      Reply #25136: Dec 29, 2018 06:36:12 am
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      Reply #25137: Dec 29, 2018 10:27:14 am

      "Liverpool fans’ walkout protest: around 10,000 leave in 77th minute over ticket prices
      • Anfield witnesses first supporter walkout in its 132-year history
      • Chants of ‘You greedy bas**rds, enough is enough’ sung on Kop"
      They weren't given a choice but to listen to the fans their hand was forced and after that the threats of not expanding the ground further came.
      They have one motivation, to make money out of LFC they don't visit Anfield often enough to check out the trophy room has only had the League Cup added to it since their arrival.
      If you check out the value of the club compared to how much they have spent they are in for a massive windfall when they pull out and that money will leave the club that is the end game maybe people don't see that as a problem.
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      Reply #25138: Dec 29, 2018 10:32:04 am
      "Liverpool fans’ walkout protest: around 10,000 leave in 77th minute over ticket prices
      • Anfield witnesses first supporter walkout in its 132-year history
      • Chants of ‘You greedy bas**rds, enough is enough’ sung on Kop"
      They weren't given a choice but to listen to the fans their hand was forced and after that the threats of not expanding the ground further came.
      They have one motivation, to make money out of LFC they don't visit Anfield often enough to check out the trophy room has only had the League Cup added to it since their arrival.
      If you check out the value of the club compared to how much they have spent they are in for a massive windfall when they pull out and that money will leave the club that is the end game maybe people don't see that as a problem.

      All from one incident which was fixed immediately.

      They have taken the club into the 21st century off the pitch and now attention is being turned to on it. Sure that may have been the wrong way around, but f**k me a little bit of slack is in order surly mate!
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      Reply #25139: Dec 29, 2018 10:34:02 am

      "FSG OUT BRIGADE FALLEN SILENT"

      The link subliminally suggesting there is an organised group campaigning to bring down LFC's owners.
      Nothing could be further from the truth!
      Correcting comments about the manager's unmatched contribution to LFC's success and stating fact about FSG's tenure is not vociferous campaigning as suggested but the honest truth.

      The Manchester Echo is sounding like a branch of FSG's PR machine.

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