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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      stuey
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #25410: Jan 09, 2019 05:21:46 pm
      I'm not really wanting to get into this again with yourself Stu as you have such a blinkered and one tracked mind where FSG are concerned there is no point.

      The manager likes the way they work and pretty sure he has said before the way our club is run is how he likes it run.


      No worries Si.
      I want the best for LFC in a footballing sense, as I'm sure you do.
      The owners have not one iota of that sentiment and have been incredibly fortunate in signing Jürgen Klopp who also has the best interests of the club at heart and the skills to make the most of the squad available.
      What that scenario can involve was displayed against Wolves.

      To contemplate the manager getting off is a true nightmare.
      Without Klopp the club is once again in the brown stuff with owners who play the markets not football and there would be nobody in waiting to steady the ship, as is to be expected from owners who tell porkies about "long term strategies".
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      Reply #25411: Jan 09, 2019 05:31:27 pm
      No worries Si.
      I want the best for LFC in a footballing sense, as I'm sure you do.
      The owners have not one iota of that sentiment and have been incredibly fortunate in signing Jürgen Klopp who also has the best interests of the club at heart and the skills to make the most of the squad available.
      What that scenario can involve was displayed against Wolves.

      To contemplate the manager getting off is a true nightmare.
      Without Klopp the club is once again in the brown stuff with owners who play the markets not football and there would be nobody in waiting to steady the ship, as is to be expected from owners who tell porkies about "long term strategies".

      You forgot to say “in your opinion” because that’s what most of that is - just an opinion , certainly isn’t a factual post
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      Reply #25412: Jan 09, 2019 05:42:48 pm
      No worries Si.
      I want the best for LFC in a footballing sense, as I'm sure you do.
      The owners have not one iota of that sentiment and have been incredibly fortunate in signing Jürgen Klopp who also has the best interests of the club at heart and the skills to make the most of the squad available.
      What that scenario can involve was displayed against Wolves.

      To contemplate the manager getting off is a true nightmare.
      Without Klopp the club is once again in the brown stuff with owners who play the markets not football and there would be nobody in waiting to steady the ship, as is to be expected from owners who tell porkies about "long term strategies".

      https://youtu.be/UPw-3e_pzqU

      They selected Jürgen and appointed him.

      Hardly fortunate and exactly what I mean when there's no point discussing this with yourself.

      I've criticised them plenty over their time here but I've seen the good things they've done as well.
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      Reply #25413: Jan 09, 2019 06:40:46 pm
      https://youtu.be/UPw-3e_pzqU

      They selected Jürgen and appointed him.

      Hardly fortunate and exactly what I mean when there's no point discussing this with yourself.

      I've criticised them plenty over their time here but I've seen the good things they've done as well.

      Klopp could have signed for any club in the world, the German national coach job was mentioned, it is highly doubtful NESV was the prime attraction.
      As stated previously any credit for LFC's present success is down to the manager.
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      Reply #25414: Jan 09, 2019 07:02:05 pm
      Klopp could have signed for any club in the world, the German national coach job was mentioned, it is highly doubtful NESV was the prime attraction.
      As stated previously any credit for LFC's present success is down to the manager.
       

      Jesu f***in christ.You f**king started all this sh*te yesterday with a cute one liner that could of gone in the post game cry baby thread or even the Klopp thread but no.Some sh*te you spout.
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      Reply #25415: Jan 09, 2019 08:47:48 pm
       

      Jesu f***in christ.You f**king started all this sh*te yesterday with a cute one liner that could of gone in the post game cry baby thread or even the Klopp thread but no.Some sh*te you spout.

      Point it out lad.
      Keep saying to the NESV crew to quote the bollox they say I "spout", where is it lad?

      « Last Edit: Jan 09, 2019 08:52:30 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #25416: Jan 09, 2019 09:02:44 pm
       

      Here f**k all to do with the thread.
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      Reply #25417: Jan 09, 2019 10:52:25 pm
       

      Here f**k all to do with the thread.

      - Get your head down.
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      Reply #25418: Jan 09, 2019 10:58:42 pm
      Stuey still on his one man crusade,  credit to him at least sticking on a losing agenda  :D
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      Reply #25419: Jan 09, 2019 11:20:27 pm
      UEFA Rules: Break even on revenue.
      Liverpool rules: Break even on netspend.
      City rules: Finance their own sponsorship deals.

      Considering how we operate, we should thank Barcelona for bank rolling VVD and Alisson.
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      Reply #25420: Jan 22, 2019 08:39:00 am
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      Reply #25421: Jan 22, 2019 09:42:09 am
      UEFA Rules: Break even on revenue.
      Liverpool rules: Break even on netspend.
      City rules: Finance their own sponsorship deals.

      Considering how we operate, we should thank Barcelona for bank rolling VVD and Alisson.


      Spot on wonder how much we would have spent if we had not sold Cou
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      Reply #25422: Jan 22, 2019 09:49:20 am
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      Reply #25423: Jan 22, 2019 10:27:27 am
      Feckin hell Stuey gonna have a pull
      Sorry buddy couldn’t resist


      😂 beat me to it..

      That’s an amazing achievement considering where we were under Moores/H&G.. I know FGS have been slow from the off but I wouldn’t swap them for any other owners in world football..
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      Reply #25424: Jan 22, 2019 11:05:25 am
      FSG doing really well.

      All we need is some silverware.

      Which Im confident is coming soon. touchwood. ;D.
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      Reply #25425: Jan 22, 2019 12:56:46 pm
      All in vain if we don't start putting trophies in the cabinet but it's definitely positive news.

      Building a strong squad, developing youth players and the stadium while also posting huge profits is not to be sniffed at.
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      Reply #25426: Jan 22, 2019 01:19:09 pm
      Considering the fact H+G almost put us out of business, the turnaround is awesome.

      As noted tho the big missing piece is silverware. But we are now competing for trophies regularly, and back in the top 4 and now realistically in with a shout of winning the league and giving city a real run for their mega money.
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      Reply #25427: Jan 22, 2019 01:30:25 pm
      All in vain if we don't start putting trophies in the cabinet but it's definitely positive news.

      Building a strong squad, developing youth players and the stadium while also posting huge profits is not to be sniffed at.

      You would hope that the trophies would follow on. Sad part is, we still can't financially compete with City, thank goodness for FFP right? ;D
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      Reply #25428: Jan 22, 2019 03:17:46 pm
      😂 beat me to it..

      That’s an amazing achievement considering where we were under Moores/H&G.. I know FGS have been slow from the off but I wouldn’t swap them for any other owners in world football..

      I raised this similar question recently in this thread. I'm not an expert on the different ownership groups in the EPL, let alone Europe, but if i look just at the PL, what owners are there that we'd rather have? Unless an oil sheikh is what we want, who else in the league would we prefer as owners?
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      Reply #25429: Jan 22, 2019 07:37:19 pm
      I raised this similar question recently in this thread. I'm not an expert on the different ownership groups in the EPL, let alone Europe, but if i look just at the PL, what owners are there that we'd rather have? Unless an oil sheikh is what we want, who else in the league would we prefer as owners?

      I would say Abramovic and Mansour are the benchmark for the EPL. For years people said Roman would pack it in when he got bored but it never happened. He bankrolled the club for many years and has now reverted to a more conservative approach more in keeping with FSP whilst delivering trophies every couple of years. Mansour will be looked on in a similar light in 5-6 years I suspect.

      As for FSG, if you look at their tenure as a whole I'm still underwhelmed.

      However, the last couple of years have been much better.

      - Obviously signing Klopp was the most important decision they got right

      - the scouting team is also in very good hands. Between them and Klopp we haven't really got a transfer wrong in the last 2-3 years and have hit BIG on several (there is lies the reason for our current performance)

      - the transfers of Alison, VVD and Keita showed that they finally realised we have to compete with the Big Boys financially to have a chance. HOWEVER it's important not to forget that these deals were preceded by a huge fee for Coutinho and the fact Klopp's prior net spend the previous couple of seasons was very low. We have yet to see whether this was FSG splashing the cash as a one off or whether they will sustain the approach of competing for the best players. If it's the latter we're in a good place but time will tell.

      - and they have delivered on the stadium. Given the amount of false dawns we saw under previous regimes this should be commended.
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      Reply #25430: Jan 23, 2019 10:53:18 am
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      Reply #25431: Jan 23, 2019 12:31:02 pm
      Let's not forget they are only here for profit nothing else......
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      Reply #25432: Jan 23, 2019 12:35:39 pm
      Let's not forget they are only here for profit nothing else......

      Never have, doubt any one needed that reminder. As long as they keep signing the cheques and continue to build us, on and off the pitch, I won't care.

      Is there an altruistic owner in football nowadays?
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      Reply #25433: Jan 24, 2019 08:00:40 am
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      Reply #25434: Jan 24, 2019 08:17:10 am
      The increase in revenue highlights the importance of Champions League or lack of it in Arsenal’s case.
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      Reply #25435: Jan 24, 2019 10:55:15 am
      Let's not forget they are only here for profit nothing else......

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      Reply #25436: Jan 24, 2019 11:20:21 am
      People still bashing the owners for no apparent reason? :D Take a day off.
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      Reply #25437: Jan 24, 2019 01:04:12 pm
      People still bashing the owners for no apparent reason? :D Take a day off.

      Good to see you back posting mate...been awhile (too long).
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      Reply #25438: Jan 24, 2019 01:37:01 pm
      The increase in revenue highlights the importance of Champions League or lack of it in Arsenal’s case.


      Really does. To think we went about 6 years over the last 8...(is that right?) without CL football. Missing out on it then was bad enough, missing out on it for consecutive years now can really set you back. Testament to how well the club is operating now that we will be qualifying for it for a 3rd year running - unless the worst meltdowns of all meltdowns happens obviously.
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      Reply #25439: Jan 24, 2019 02:41:23 pm
      Good to see you back posting mate...been awhile (too long).


      Cheers mate!

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