Is that not part of a self sufficient model ?
When the club was that poor commercially a lot of the transfer budget comes from recycling the squad - removing players that we donāt need or want to leave and replacing them.
As for itās success - if you have the right transfer structure in place and find the right players then it can be successful
We have just won the title and CL in consecutive seasons using that model
City - oil billionaire, Chelsea- oil billionaire , UTD - half a billion in leveraged debt ( spent over Ā£1.2bn in interest payments) - would you prefer their model ?
Is it also not the genius of Edwards and Fallows ? The people who identify the players to bring in and also get good money fit players we sell ?
Who considered that these players were ājust alrightā ? The transfer team ? Or the fans ?
And which players are we talking about here ? Alisson who was clearly one of the best in the world ? Same with VVD , Fabinho . Then players like Mane who was superb in the Prem - the truth is surely that they saw the potential in the players which is why they bought them ?
Is that not how we used to do things - find the players that have the potential to become quality players and build from there ?
Did we not nearly win the league just before Klopp arrived ?
Do Edwards and Co not get credit for finding these players - how about Salah who Klopp didnāt really want , preferring Brandt instead but Edwards etc persuaded him of Salahs ability - one man canāt do it all
Why would I be thinking of who will replace Klopp yet ? His contract isnt ending yet and when he does come to the end of tenure then no doubt the club with his help will find someone who can work within the same model
Why would you expect that ? Have you not seen the accounts and how much money we already spend ?
Do you even begin to understand the potential impact on the finances of the club from the virus ? We were prob due to have profits of close to Ā£100mil which the manager would have used for players like Werner but the club are rightly being cautious in their spending until the full impact is known
Unless you expect the owners to be spending their own personal money to buy players ? Or to put debt on the club ?
Before I reply, I just want to say that I donāt think FSG are terrible owners. Ashley is a terrible owner. Hicks and Gillette were terrible owners. I put FSG in the ok bracket. They could be a lot worse but theyāre not exactly great either.
Ok, so first thing, for a club like ours to have a lower net spend than Brighton I find pretty ridiculous in truth. Under any normal circumstances, we would not be competing on the pitch. The only reason we are is because of Klopp. Thereās no reason to talk about bankruptcy or the uncertainty of our future due to covid, Brighton should never be out spending us, ever.
Yes we have just won the European cup and title. So yes it is possible to be successful under this model....but only when you have JĆ¼rgen klopp as the manager. Name another club who have done the same in recent years using a similar model to us?
No I donāt want a billionaire owner. But in the modern game you usually need to spend some money to compete and itās very rare you win trophies if you donāt. Selling players to buy players doesnāt normally work. Again, give me examples where it does. You keep saying the model is fine and Iāll keep asking for examples. The only person who can make it work is klopp. It didnāt work before him and it wonāt work after him either.
Ok, yes we did nearly win the league under Brendan, because we had the best player in the world at the time who had an incredible season. He also brought the best out of sturridge so between them they gave us a chance by scoring 50 goals or so. But ultimately, we had a crab back five who cost us the league. Maybe if FSG had invested in a couple of players then we would have gotten over the line.
So we came so close to winning the league, what did our owners do? Did they keep all of our players and invest in a couple more in the areas that we needed strengthening so we could go again and challenge after going so close? Ah no, I remember now, they sold the player who nearly won us the league and replaced him with several crabs keeping the net spend nice and tidy...and where did we finish again?
The players klopp signed were just alright. I cba debating with you if youāre just going to talk tripe mate and make out we signed already made great players. Literally every player weāve signed were playing at a lower standard to what we are. Even VVD and Alison have gone up a few levels since working under klopp, neither of them were performing at the standards they are now. What numbers was mane hitting in the Prem before he came here? Donāt know why youād make out he was tearing the league up because he just wasnāt. But he has been since working with JĆ¼rgen. Itās my opinion that had we signed mane under any different manager then he would never had reached the heights he has now. In fact, that goes for a lot, if not all of our players, which is the whole point of what Iām saying. Klopp is a genius. And without him it doesnāt work.
Youāre using a bit of a get out of jail card by saying why would you think about JĆ¼rgen leaving. Youāre the one saying the the model works. So you should be able to list a group of managers with relative ease that could come here, work under FSG and deliver the same results as what JĆ¼rgen has. To make it easier for you, I consider klopp as the best manager in the world. In second place Iād give that to Pep. Would you agree with that? So could Pep come here, work under this model and deliver the same results as JĆ¼rgen do you think?
Why wouldnāt I expect a club who has just won the title to invest in a couple of players to help keep us on our perch? Isnāt that what the big clubs do? Especially ones the size of ours? Find that a bit bizarre you asking why I would expect that. Do you expect to keep the same squad for ten years and never bring in players then? Or if we we want or need players then we should sell virgil or Salah first?
